Lleyton Hewitt vs. Juan Martin del Potro

Who will go through to the 3rd round of Wimby?


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grafrules

Banned
Yes but doesn't it depress us also a bit. Where are the new Rafa's and Federer's - Hewitt was amazing - really well done

I wouldnt worry too much adout JMDP based on this. Grass is not his surface at all. He still could do very well on the hard court season coming up. Federer and Rafa caliber players dont come around everyday. It might be a very long before the next one emerges. I suspect mens tennis will be alot more open to many different winners once those two are done winning after 2012 or so.
 

trenzterra

Semi-Pro
dont u think that in the grand slams this year so far it has been about the older players stepping up. i mean djo and murray didnt make it to any semis did they?
 

DarthFed

Hall of Fame
Impressive win for Hewitt I'm happy for him, I'm glad he's not taking the Safin route as his career edges nearer to his conclusion.
Amazing how the supposably weak Roddick, Safin, Nalbandian, and Hewitt well past their primes are still having success vs the supposably way more talented new generation players like Djokovic, Murray, and Del Potro. Especialy Safin and Hewitt who are less than half what they used to be but can still take out 1 of those guys at the last 2 Wimbledons.

Touche, and it's not like it's a hard fought 5 setter either it was in straights.
 

diegaa

Hall of Fame
im totally dissapointed. DP played like he was afraid or had too much respect for the former no.1.
It's the same problem over and over. Congrats to hewitt though, I hope he gets far.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Yeah it is funny how people when running down Fed's past draws to win the FO refer to Gonzo as a "joke" or an "easy draw" who Sampras would supposably be crusing to FO finals if he faced, LOL! Yet Federer was lucky to win the FO this year since he avoided people like the great clay courter Murray, the same one an aging Gonzo overpowered and schooled on clay. Go figure.

Yeah,it's quite an amazing logic.I was actually asked to tend to my Fed altar or some similar BS from some poster here because I dared to suggest that Fed wasn't "lucky" for avoiding Djokovic and especially Murray at the FO(who got bageled by Gonzo)as I felt Fed would have beaten either of them at FO this year.Some posters here really do have some twisted logic and will find a way to put an asterisk on anything Fed accomplishes.
 

veritech

Hall of Fame
didn't see the match.

did hewitt just play too good for JMDP, or was del potro just off? i had great expectations for del potro during this tournament.
 
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nikdom

Guest
I'm dissappointed. I wanted JMDP to reach the semis after the way he played at the FO. Poor chap. Not his day I guess.
 
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Deleted member 3771

Guest
didn't see the match.

did hewitt just play too good for JMDP, or was del potro just off? i had great expectations for del potro during this tournament.

Hewitt was just a bit too good. I think Hewitt plays better on grass than on other surfaces. The low bounce suits his shots, his serve and his shots shoot through a bit more and he gets a bit more value for his returns. He rallied well and moved del Potro a bit and also returned well.
 

AAAA

Hall of Fame
After watching this match some thoughts

1) It's grass and Del Potro did struggle on some of the lower balls

2) Compared to how focused he looked and how well he served against Federer in the FO, today his serving was no where near as good.

3) The above two can affect confidence negatively.

4) His FO performance was a big effort on his part. Yeah Nadal had done this and that by age 20 but Del Potro has matured quite yet.

For now I'm leaning towards thinking Del Potro doesn't like grass.
 
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Deleted member 3771

Guest
After watching this match some thoughts

1) It's grass and Del Potro did struggle on some of the lower balls

2) Compared to how focused he looked and how well he served against Federer in the FO, today his serving was no where near as good.

3) The above two can affect confidence negatively.

4) His FO performance was a big effort on his part. Yeah Nadal had done this and that by age 20 but Del Potro has matured quite yet.

For now I'm leaning towards thinking Del Potro doesn't like grass.

Yes hes not as good on grass as on hard courts. The grass hurrys him up a bit on his return of serve and he misfires a bit. He struggles a bit more with his return and with his movement/balance on wide shots/low skimming shots on grass.Also Hewitt returned his big hard serves well all match when he got his racket on the ball and made Del Potro play a lot.

Del Potro still has a lot of developing to do. He's a ball hitter more than a tennis player.The lack of versatility hurt him a bit on the grass.
 

bolo

G.O.A.T.
nice little interview with hewitt. Said he was close to 100% and had some nice things to say about murray.
 

InvisibleSoul

Hall of Fame
um ....... no; it is an insult which means toilet, but since you stuck your nose in, i'm forced to ask ....... attend the dumb-em-down govt. schools much? if you knew what "del" means (of the), then you would know that the word following the article "the" w/b a noun, not an adjective; but the meanings you suggested are for adjectives, not nouns! :rolleyes:

stop trying to hijack this thread by starting an argument with me. my post was a response to something written by someone else, not you, so stop butting in 2 pages later!
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Even IF it directly translates to "of the toilet", so what? You say it violates the terms of service? Which clause?

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I highly doubt "toilet" is one of the "Big 7" dirty words.

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First off, this rule is for board member interaction, as in no personal attacks or abusive language from one board member to another board member. Even if you misinterpret it as no personal attacks or abusive language allowed towards players, calling someone "of the toilet" hardly qualifies as such.

Once again, you're the only person that seems to have such a hangup over the name "del Potty", which is written in jest. It's not written because the person is even insinuating del Potro sucks or is "of the toilet" (whatever that is even supposed to mean), but because it's a catchy malapropism. It's like calling Hewitt "Hewy" or something like that. Just because "potty" happens to have a possibly negative connotation doesn't mean it was intended or even relevant, and I highly doubt any moderator would see it your way either.
 
Hewitt really returned serve well today, better than I can remember recently. I didn't think JMDP really served that bad but Hewitt was on top of his game, almost a flashback to his younger days when we would give big servers fits on a regular basis. Towards the end it also looked like DP was going for too much on his groundstrokes and missing, and he went for broke on too many returns and missed.
 

T. H. Park

Professional
Wow. Hoped for Hewitt in 4 but the odds were against him on paper. I thought that when he beat Rafa in straights at the exhibition, we saw something interesting happening. 14 aces against DP. Today's win suggests that Rafa losing to Hewitt on grass was not that crazy as it seemed a week ago ... We'll see how far he goes. He must feel confident.
 

Andres

G.O.A.T.
Great returning by Hewitt. He won over 50% of Del Potro's 2nd serve, even when his 2nd serve speed averaged 110 mph!!
 

Cross Court

Banned
I don't think you realize how horrible this is for me. I just bet $250,000 on Del Potro and now I'm living in the streets, struggling for food. There is no hope in me staying alive, I'm going to get cancer out here.
 

T1000

Legend
I don't think you realize how horrible this is for me. I just bet $250,000 on Del Potro and now I'm living in the streets, struggling for food. There is no hope in me staying alive, I'm going to get cancer out here.

and yet you are posting on an internet forum on the streets dirt poor :shock:
 

InvisibleSoul

Hall of Fame
I don't think you realize how horrible this is for me. I just bet $250,000 on Del Potro and now I'm living in the streets, struggling for food. There is no hope in me staying alive, I'm going to get cancer out here.
I don't think you could get cancer by living on the street if you tried.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
No love for Hewitt?

LOL I'm in that group as well,I thought that Delpo would beat Hewitt.However I'm glad I was wrong,love to see the Aussie vet showing new kids a thing or two on how to play on grass.

I still think Delpo is going deep at USO though,he's a threat on clay and HC.He just hasn't been able to adjust to grass yet.
 

joeri888

G.O.A.T.
LOL I'm in that group as well,I thought that Delpo would beat Hewitt.However I'm glad I was wrong,love to see the Aussie vet showing new kids a thing or two on how to play on grass.

I still think Delpo is going deep at USO though,he's a threat on clay and HC.He just hasn't been able to adjust to grass yet.

I was warning you Zagor, I said it but you just wouldn't listen :cry::)
 

Love Game

Talk Tennis Guru
I don't think you realize how horrible this is for me. I just bet $250,000 on Del Potro and now I'm living in the streets, struggling for food. There is no hope in me staying alive, I'm going to get cancer out here.

wait a minute! didnt anybody ever advise you that if you cant afford to lose it, you should not gamble it? :confused:
 

Love Game

Talk Tennis Guru
This early loss was scripted. I assume that the Del Potro bandwagon lost about half his passengers yesterday if not more.

i'm still on the bandwagon. i had hoped for better for delpo, himself, but the fact is that grass is his worst surface and he did not play any grass tournaments on the run up to wimbledon.

plus this was delpo's first time on centre court, whereas rocky's been here before and is a past champion.

plus rocky had a group of professional cheerleaders in the crowd with matching shirts, hats, etc., tho i must admit that most of the audience were very fair.

plus delpo slipped on the grass more than once and had to call the trainer (first time i've ever seen him do that) to wrap the left knee.

the good thing, imo, is that he won't lose any points, since he went out in the second round both of his previous times here at wimby.

hewitt, otoh, has played wimby 10 times in the past, so experience is on hewitt's side.

i'm sorry for delpo, because i assume he had higher hopes for himself, but i'm happy for rusty that his hip is feeling almost back to normal again. he did play brilliantly, and i wish him well in his future matches here!
 

Love Game

Talk Tennis Guru
It was a very good match imo. Hewitt played great and Del Potro not that bad. It's just not his surface(yet)

i know. i was just teasing so s/he wouldnt feel so bad about missing it :) ...... otoh, i felt so very sad for delpo when i saw his exit wimby press conference. couldnt understand a word he was saying--the part i saw was in spanish--but he didnt look like a happy camper! :(
 

joeri888

G.O.A.T.
i know. i was just teasing so s/he wouldnt feel so bad about missing it :) ...... otoh, i felt so very sad for delpo when i saw his exit wimby press conference. couldnt understand a word he was saying--the part i saw was in spanish--but he didnt look like a happy camper! :(

That's a good thing. You shouldn't be happy if you go out. Juan Martin is a young guy and has got all the time in the world to get his act together on grasscourts. He had a tough draw and might go deeper next year around.
 
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