Lm Rad Mp vs. Ntour vs. Mifill 200 16x18

hey I was wondering if anyone has experience with the rad vs either of those two rackets....power, control, which you prefer, etc. Thanks guys!

-pete
 

meowmix

Hall of Fame
1. It's a 16 by 19 string pattern :)

Two, the most stable of the rackets above is the LM Rad. The most spin friendly is the Dunlop, the most powerful is probably the Dunlop (the Rad's a close second). The most controlled (IMO) is the ntour, as I felt it really didn't have any power. The most maneuverable is a tie between nTour and the M-fil (that's not to say the Rad isn't maneuverable, it is). Best serving tool goes to the LM Rad. Most kick on serve goes to the Dunlop. Best slices goes to the nTour.

Personally, I liked the LM Rad the most. The Dunlop is good, but a little too whippy (and I use a VERY whippy racket).
 

elyangoo

New User
Hi there, anyone else have their personal experience to contribute to the LM Rad MP and the M-Fil 200? Would like to hear some more views between these 2 sticks as I am deciding between one of them. Don't have demo program where I live so TW is my only source I guess.

I'm currently using a K-Surge, leaded mostly in the handle up to 350g with about 7-8 pts HL. Rating 4.0, hit with 70% of my FH shots topspin 30% flat, 50-50% on my 1HBH spin/flat. SW grip and switching to more extreme spin grips when I step into the court to make approach shots which I mostly use more spin to keep the ball in or make sharper angles.

What I currently love about my K-Surge:
- Manouverable, can make last minute shots and use more wrist motion to make angles. Also easier to catch shots on the rise.
- BH slice is just plain ridiculous with the open string pattern, as 1 of my opponents described in his own words: "gay slice" haha. This becomes my safe shot to play when I need some recovery time.
- Slice serve is also equally sick. From Ad court my righty serve can get in the box and bounce away into the opponent's deuce court consistently and I love this stick for it.
- Nice power.

Things that I wish were better with the Surge:
- Thick frame resulting in ball hitting the frame at times
- A little too stiff and jarring
- lack of plow thru
- often unstable due to light stock weight, and it shows against heavy hitting and net play
- More depth
- More control

It would seem that the Dunlop is closer to the specs of my Surge. Open string pattern, spin friendly, whippy and headlight. Specs-wise it would seem like an improved more stable (or is it?) racket to switch to. However, the rave reviews on the LM Rad MP are hard to ignore, and it is acclaimed to be very stable for its weight which I wish my Surge was. However would it suit my style of play or is it more favourable to a flatter hitter, baseliner, etc. I'm not averse to getting a slightly different racket as I like to try different things sometimes.

Any good advise?
 

Winners or Errors

Hall of Fame
I believe Blake uses the M-Fil Plus mold in a 18x20 pattern, so I suspect, if you like the flex, that it will prove a very customizable platform. I'm looking in the 93-95 sq in range, as going above that seems to give me the "boing" feel on the stringbed I hate. Smaller racquets seem to perform better in that regard. Given that I hit a 1hbh, the only racquet in that group that even remotely interested me is the Dunlop.
 

Mansewerz

Legend
I would probably get the LM Radical. I like the Head grip shape too.

Btw, is this battle of the Liquidation section racquets? They're some good racquets. In hindsight, I wish I bought the Rad instead of the ntour.
 

elyangoo

New User
In my opinion both sticks are very customizable with low stock weights. And I'm looking at a bargain and it doesn't seem to get better than these 2 sticks on offer.

Anyone else have played with these 2 sticks and can share on the concerns I have?
 

saram

Legend
In my opinion both sticks are very customizable with low stock weights. And I'm looking at a bargain and it doesn't seem to get better than these 2 sticks on offer.

Anyone else have played with these 2 sticks and can share on the concerns I have?
I have played with and owned both in the past--what type of player are you and skill level?
 

elyangoo

New User
Hi Saram thanks for your quick reply. You may have missed post #3 which I tried to explain how I normally play.

Please advise, Thanks!
 

saram

Legend
The LM is a stiffer stick than the 200 and it is noticeable. This also may be to the tighter pattern to some degree--but the 200 was very easy on the arm and has more room for customization than the LM for me.

The 200 has a LOT more bite on the ball. This was especially noticeable for me on sliced backhands--the shots off the 200 stay lower and deeper and bite more when they land.

Topspin goes to the 200 as well. I could hit the ball harder with the LM--but with less spin and I prefer the spin over the power.

I could serve harder flat serves with the LM in stock form--but there is so much more potential for kick on the second serve from the 200.

Add me to the list of people that had elbow/shoulder pain with the LM while I had no pain with the 200's even weighted up with 18 grams of lead on them.

In stock form, I'd go with the LM--but if you are capable and willing to play with lead and customize the sticks to your game, I would surely opt for the 200's.

I no longer use my 200's, but loved them while I did. And customized--I highly preferred them to the LM's...

Hope this helps
 

elyangoo

New User
The LM is a stiffer stick than the 200 and it is noticeable. This also may be to the tighter pattern to some degree--but the 200 was very easy on the arm and has more room for customization than the LM for me.

The 200 has a LOT more bite on the ball. This was especially noticeable for me on sliced backhands--the shots off the 200 stay lower and deeper and bite more when they land.

Topspin goes to the 200 as well. I could hit the ball harder with the LM--but with less spin and I prefer the spin over the power.

I could serve harder flat serves with the LM in stock form--but there is so much more potential for kick on the second serve from the 200.

Add me to the list of people that had elbow/shoulder pain with the LM while I had no pain with the 200's even weighted up with 18 grams of lead on them.

In stock form, I'd go with the LM--but if you are capable and willing to play with lead and customize the sticks to your game, I would surely opt for the 200's.

I no longer use my 200's, but loved them while I did. And customized--I highly preferred them to the LM's...

Hope this helps
Sweet thanks for the tip dude. But how about stability wise for the 200+? It is my main concern and my KSurge would have been ok if not for this.

I kinda have the idea that stock wise the Radical would be better to play as well. And I usually like to keep my lead customizations minimal or at least hidden as I like my rackets to look nice (haha vain I know). Seems that the LM could do with some lead in the handle to make it more headlight which I am used to and with the inherent weight and stability in the hoop not much is needed there at all.
As for the 200+, like I mentioned I think the current weight and balance seems right. But if it's lacking stability, I might have to add weight to both ends etc....
 

saram

Legend
Sweet thanks for the tip dude. But how about stability wise for the 200+? It is my main concern and my KSurge would have been ok if not for this.

I kinda have the idea that stock wise the Radical would be better to play as well. And I usually like to keep my lead customizations minimal or at least hidden as I like my rackets to look nice (haha vain I know). Seems that the LM could do with some lead in the handle to make it more headlight which I am used to and with the inherent weight and stability in the hoop not much is needed there at all.
As for the 200+, like I mentioned I think the current weight and balance seems right. But if it's lacking stability, I might have to add weight to both ends etc....
I have never hit with the kSurge--but the LM is more stable than the 200.
 

saram

Legend
And I ended up with 9gr at 3 and 9 and another 9 grams under the grip on the 200 to increase stability.
 

elyangoo

New User
Hmm still undecided for now. If I hadn't committed to a MG Prestige Mid already I might have decided to just get both the M-Fil and the LM....
Anyway the USD to SGD exchange rate is a bit on the high side so maybe I'll take the weekend to decide before placing an order for my back-up to the Surge....
 

tenniscool

Rookie
I actually went with the LM radical since they came back in stock like a few days later. Hopefully it will stop raining so I could go hit with it :mad:
 

elyangoo

New User
cool let's post our experiences with these 2 different sticks then.... maybe it'll help some people who are considering these 2 good sale rackets.
 
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