Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by soyizgood, Sep 29, 2007.
I think in light of what's happening in Miami right now, this thread deserves a bump.
What a beat down. If there has ever been a case for a playoff, this is it.
That's why I like tennis so much - you need to earn way into a grand slam final match.
Shame it wasn't a shutout.
Semi-prevent defense and loss of intensity from being so far ahead.
Notre Dame definitely improved this year, good for them. Still, no team in the middle-west is in the class of the very top teams.
There's already a 'College Football 2012' thread...but you'd rather go the d-bag flame route. Then again, what would you bring to the 'College Football 2012' table? Nothing. Enjoy your fluke "big win" over Nevada?
Who are you to flame Mr. Port Chester posing as Greenwich?
Si habla that
Our football team sucks. I am fully aware of that. Did I ever say we were good? No. Our team is in the dumps and bringing RichRod is with merit, but I don't like it as a direction in which our program is going because it means we're spending tons of money we don't have to appease him and grant his every wish, including dropping 10 million on a new scoreboard, some 35 million on a new facility that's taken the student recreation field away from the students and handed to the football program, AFTER they took over the old baseball stadium and didn't give it to the students as a recreation field like they said they would. All this is being funded by the school jacking up tuition by an additional 5k a semester, which is absurd. All of this is being done in the name of turning our school from a basketball school into a football school, which is stupid because you just can't do those kinds of things overnight, especially when your basketball team has a history and a national title under it's belt and the football team has absolutely nothing of note. We're not a football school. We were never a football school. We will never be a football school. And I'm happy with that.
We deserved to loose to Nevada and we should have. I'm not defending our team. If I was, do you really think I'd be bashing our coach and program?
I went to Greenwich High School, Western Middle School and Glenville Elementary. My house is literally on the border between the two towns. Mailbox is in Port Chester and the house is in Greenwich. We pay taxes to CT although I had the option of attending school in Rye Brook (I'm not Jewish so I took a pass on that). Would you like me to email you my address so you can go check on Google maps to confirm what I said? As far as I'm concerned, I'm all Greenwich, I just tell folks I'm not from there when there's banter against the proverbial 1%, because there are tons of folks who automatically assume that being from Greenwich means I'm in the 1% and a trust fund baby who drives a Beamer. I'm as far from the Greenwich stereotype as one can get whilst still being white, not in poverty and decently educated.
And I'm not hating on ND either, I'm just pointing a few things out. For what it's worth, a good friend of mine's brother played for them. My close circle of friends when I studied abroad were all from Notre Dame, and they looked after me as if I was their younger brother, something for which I will always be grateful for. I have a ton of respect for their institution. Did I think their football team was overrated? Absolutely, and now it's in plain sight that they were.
My bump was a joke. It's obvious you're still reeling over the fact that your favorite pro team stupidly decided to keep that fat oaf of a head coach, which was the reason they sucked this year.
If you think about it the game was actually pretty close. Take away 42 points from Alabama, and Notre Dame actually won.
Apparently Manti Te'o's dead girlfriend never existed, and he was in on it.
I was about to post that. ND claims he's the victim of a hoax but if you read what he said there is no logical way he wasn't in on it.
Dude's a pathological liar. I thought the younger generation knew better than to perpetuate big lies on the internet - it never works. Wonder how it will affect his draft status? Dude is mental.
One of the strangest sports related things ever. Just skimmed the article but as jbf said. wow.
What the hell happened to just going to college, getting a solid education, and play some collegiate sports? It seems like programs and perhaps the students themselves are more concerned with media exposure than anything.
Lars and the Real Girl
If you read the story, he may have manufactured the entire dead gf story to garner sympathy votes for the Heisman. At best, he perpetuated the dead GF lie.
The press is going to have to cover this now whether he went to sacrosanct ND, or not. This is a big story. Might be the headline of Drudge tomorrow AM.
And yes, ND was over ranked. They are a very good team but they just squeaked by several very marginal teams. Apparently, margin of victory is not a factor in BCS ratings which is rather stupid. I thought 'Bama would kick their butts and was not surprised by the outcome at all.
Whats bad is that ESPN is never the one who breaks a story like this. It was Deadspin Magazine for gods sake. Was it ESPN that broke the Reggie Bush scandal at USC? Nope it was Yahoo Sports and there wasnt anyone on earth more shocked about the roid usage by Arod and all the other cheaters in baseball than the guys covering baseball for ESPN. Peter Gammons could have been in the room while Arod, Bonds, Clemens, and McGuire all shot roids in each other and he still wouldnt have noticed it happening. ESPN is a joke if news is what youre lookin for
I have been catching up with this story and it's just so fantastically crazy.
Why hasn't Kelley been fired yet and ND sanctioned? This bs lie game, covered up a **** and the victim killed herself in 2010, and he made a student tape practice on a metal lift 50ft in the air during a storm and he died also in 2010. Honestly this is becoming worse than Penn St. and so glad they got destroyed by Bama (and I hate every SEC school)
Maybe he's gay. Family wants to meet the g/f (who is actually the b/f) so they kill off the fake g/f to take care of that problem - media gets a hold of the story (does no fact checking) and runs with it. He rolls with lies.
Or he's a total idiot who was duped and made up 'meeting' her in person to save face.
Or he's a total fraud.
Or all three.
This is funny though: http://teoing.tumblr.com/
strangest story Ive EVER heard
the current theory is the gf was 'cooked up' to hide the fact that he was involved with another man.
good point, I cant think of one big sports story in the past 6 years broken by Espn.
Heck, the Tiger Woods story was broken by the national enquirer.
he claimed she visited him and he her.
his FAMILY claimed she spent time with them in Hawaii.
No WAY he wasnt in on it.
I think he was in on it.
After the Deadspin story was published, it definitely looked like he was in on it from the start.
There are a few updates today on SB Nation that suggest maybe he was actually the victim of a hoax, but even then, he maybe could have been at the beginning, but ran with it once he found out.
No matter - ND and T'eo knew by December 26, 2012 that she didn't exist. Yet, in press leading up to the BCS Championship, he still referenced her.
So, he lied. The issue is how much he lied and over how long of period he lied. And what's really interesting to me is his motivation for lying which could be any number of things or combination of things.
Yeah the dad said in a taped interview that he met the girl in person and she could be his future daughter in law.
LOL no fraud like whole family fraud
I think it was to cover up the fact that he was gay and involved with another man. Possibly the fellow listed in the article.
Think about it, star player at big program, mormon, football player, samoan culture...doesnt look kindly on homosexuality.
whats a better cover than my-girlfriend-lives-far-away-and-is-sick-and-then-she-died-and-ill-never-love-anybody-else-again.
That would be a reasonable explanation IF it is true. Unfortunately we won't know that unless he comes out says he is gay. I would actually repect him if he came out and said it and say that is why he set this whole thing up. But if goes with this story that he was duped and he didn't know the girl was fake even though anybody older than 10 years old would figure it out, that's pathetic.
Yeah, I've seen that thrown around, and don't think it's out of the realm of possiblity. But, if he was merely trying to cover up his sexuality, wasn't he going WAY overboard. Killing her off with luekemia in addition to suffering a car accident, referencing her multiple times in national media - couldn't he see that the bigger spectacle he made, the more attention it would draw, inevitably people would ask questions (especially after she died) and he could be "found out."
I don't know. I'd imagine if his sexuality were the issue he could be incredibly desperate given the context (Mormon, Catholic school, football player) and not really thinking clearly. But, still.
For once, I really have no idea, or really any opinion. It could be that he's gay and trying to cover that up. I could be that he was using it as PR for the Heisman. It could be that he's incredibly stupid, got embarrassed and kept up the charade. Or, it could be a combination of those things.
I generally don't believe he was duped from the beginning. But, again, I have no idea.
I think coming out as a homosexual would have been the ultimate PR move to win the Heisman. Then if a writer voted for anyone else, the writer is a homophobe.
Give it a week, the truth will come out. If he invented the whole thing, it was not to cover homosexuality but simply to gain sympathy and then portray himself as a hero, soldiering on despite his tremendous personal loss. Win one for the Gipper is now Win one for the fake dead girlfriend.
Story is getting stranger and stranger. Arizona Cardinals fullback Reagan Mauia says he has met this girl in person and he was close with her family and Kekua's mother was operating her Twitter account. This was AFTER Notre Dame held a press conference that stated it all was an elaborate hoax.
This guy's either the most gullible sap (not likely imho), a calculating Brian Bosworth type fit for the 'Oprah' crowd, or, the 'Metro Mark' Sanchez of LB's. This story is Supermarket Check-out Counter Magazine worthy tripe and he can go tell "his story" ...sob!... to a sympathetic, sexually frustrated audience on The View for all I care ...snooze...
I'm sure Oprah's people are already working the phones...
"Oh Lennay!...when I hear your soft voice lying here all alone .... I get those 'feelings' that I spoke about ..... right now you're making me sooo har..." *operator*: "please deposit 75 cents for the next 3 minutes..." ...Hello??....Lennay???...."
Man, he had the best of both worlds....A Mormon can have multiple wives...and as a Catholic, you just confess and you're absolved of your sins.:???:
He actually could've had all the sympathy strictly from his grandmother's (confirmed) death; he was evidently very close to his grandparents. There was no need to invent the fake girlfriend to add to the story. Talk about overplaying one's hand!
And yet another reason to hate ESPN.
I'm not going the fake indignation route, but I am a wee bit ashamed of myself for being entertained at the expense of someone with psychological issues. (Kinda' like spending time on TT);-)
I never even heard of this girl who never existed so, in a way, I felt like I knew her. Up to the point when I heard of her, that is.
Don't know about you guys but I am quite intrigued by the whole Manti Te'o story. Apparently his real grandma passed away-for real-at around the same time his "girlfriend" did.
Great post. Kelley is scum and should be in prison right now. ND is totally hypocritical.
Te'o certainly fits the profile of the rockhead athlete to be duped (at first I thought he was in on it for publicity but that now appears not to be the case) this easily.
And what does this say about the quality of the ND female population; star athlete has to have a long distance gf? I'm afraid to ask what the mortals do.
Great post? Well, yes ... that is, if you consider blatant distortion of facts "great."
While I don't have an ND-Southern Cal dog in this fight (unlike you), still, I'll tell you what:
I'll trade goofball Manti Te'o's cell phone for Reggie Bush's Heisman Trophy and O.J.'s. Btw, do either of them still have theirs?? ..... ;-)
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