Lob to the netplayers bh

toth

Semi-Pro
Is it easier to hit lob to the righty netplayers bh from the deuce side?
I mean, becouse of geometry.
(I have learned geometry a long ago at highschool..)
It can be the second reason, why i do not like to approach to the righty opponent fh side..

Thank you for your answer
Toth
 

Goof

Semi-Pro
This raises a philosophical question: is there such a thing as a lob to the backhand side? If it's truly a lob and the opponent isn't physically handicapped, any lob is to forehand no matter where it's hit. Do you mean a moonball passing shot attempt to backhand?
 

toth

Semi-Pro
This raises a philosophical question: is there such a thing as a lob to the backhand side? If it's truly a lob and the opponent isn't physically handicapped, any lob is to forehand no matter where it's hit. Do you mean a moonball passing shot attempt to backhand?
Even Federer sometimes have to hit a bh smash.
I think, he does it most of the times from the rightie opponents fh lob, too.
 

Goof

Semi-Pro
How do you see this point?
I think a lob that forces an opponent to hit a backhand overhead would almost have to be struck from the lobbing player's forehand side (and probably from pretty far toward the sideline or even from off the court if from a deep approach). I can't imagine a scenario from which a right-handed 4.0 or above player is forced to hit a backhand overhead from a right-handed opponent's backhand lob (unless MAYBE the lob is one from super short in the court and intended as more of a surprise than anything, e.g. a volley-lob).
 

TnsGuru

Professional
The backhand overhead is the least powerful of the overhead smashes unless you're Fed or Nadal. They spank that ball and sometimes with angle too! Lower players just hope to get it in with disasterous results. Good overhead footwork helps or just working on the backhand overhead can help. Running around to hit a convential overhead can get tiring, like running around your groundstroke BH all the time because you're strength is the FH side.

A balance of both type of overheads enables you to have no fear of what kind of lob will be thrown at you.
 
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LeeD

Bionic Poster
You can try, but aiming a defensive lob is more difficult than just throwing up a high, deep ball and you will lose as many as if you had no strategy, but focus on execution
 

user92626

Legend
is "toth" a singular person or what? toth quoted toth with a question?

And why the heck do you people discuss effectiveness of an action? Action is to be performed. Not talked about.
 

toth

Semi-Pro
I think a lob that forces an opponent to hit a backhand overhead would almost have to be struck from the lobbing player's forehand side (and probably from pretty far toward the sideline or even from off the court if from a deep approach). I can't imagine a scenario from which a right-handed 4.0 or above player is forced to hit a backhand overhead from a right-handed opponent's backhand lob (unless MAYBE the lob is one from super short in the court and intended as more of a surprise than anything, e.g. a volley-lob).
I just find on youtube the Federer bh smash from the opponent bh lob from the ad side...
Is it only an exception?
The question is: is it easier to hit the lob to the netplayer bh from the deuce side than from the ad side or not really?
I have not enough experience with it, but i hit my approach shot much more to my righty opponent bh.
 

BetaServe

Professional
The backhand overhead is the least powerful of the overhead smashes unless you're Fed or Nadal. They spank that ball and sometimes with angle too! Lower players just hope to get it in with diasasterous results. Good overhead footwork helps or just working on the backhand overhead can help. Running around to hit a convential overhead can get tiring, like running around your groundstroke BH all the time because you're strength is the FH side.

A balance of both type of overheads enables you to have no fear of what kind of lob will be thrown at you.
Bh smash doesn't need to be powerful since angle and placement are more important than pace. A short angled bh smash would be enough, like this (at 1:50)
 
Is it easier to hit lob to the righty netplayers bh from the deuce side?
I mean, becouse of geometry.
(I have learned geometry a long ago at highschool..)
It can be the second reason, why i do not like to approach to the righty opponent fh side..

Thank you for your answer
Toth
I assume you're talking doubles.

I would think it would be more difficult because if you miss to the right, it goes out. Whereas if you're on the Ad court, the lob goes in the middle. Of course, then the net man's partner has a potential OH.
 

toth

Semi-Pro
I assume you're talking doubles.

I would think it would be more difficult because if you miss to the right, it goes out. Whereas if you're on the Ad court, the lob goes in the middle. Of course, then the net man's partner has a potential OH.
Nowadays i usually play singles, it is singles pattern problem for me.
I would like to avoid to hit bh smash as much as possible, i rather try to take it with fh smash as much as possible.
 

blablavla

Professional
Is it easier to hit lob to the righty netplayers bh from the deuce side?
I mean, becouse of geometry.
(I have learned geometry a long ago at highschool..)
It can be the second reason, why i do not like to approach to the righty opponent fh side..

Thank you for your answer
Toth
from geometry point of view it is easier to hit such lob cross court, like in this video

If you are not so sure about your lob, and this is why you aim the BH side of your opponent, well, you can of course try, perhaps it works, but it doesn't sound like a good idea.
Because aiming the lob to BH side from deuce, means it has to fly a shorter distance, so you have to be much more precise.
And here is where it will depend on your skill and your opponent skill.
A good opponent can run around and hit a proper smash if your lob is weak.
For an opponent who lacks footwork, or proper smash capability, it doesn't really matter if the lob flies to BH or not. It is more important to have the lob deep.
 
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