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jcstennis said:
The Rad Pro has some good pop to it for serving... The only racquet (in that genre) i can think of that has better,flat out power than the Rad Pro (in my experience) is the PDR, K6.1 95 and PS 6.0 85. The Rad Pro has a unique feel when serving, it kind of takes the ball at impact and says to the ball "Ok let's go for a ride" then boom! Has nice spin... i had some control issues with the racquet, but i may try it again soon... now looking for a Trisys 260 MP :)
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Interesting... I'm always noting down the names of killer serve rackets so here's another one to remember in the MG Rad Pro.

FWIW, my ultimate pop, big time power serving rods are - my no. 1 - the PD+. And then a couple more Babs including the PD standard, Pure Control, and PDR would all need a mention. The PSC 6.1 was awesome. I had a custom ex-pro's Fischer Vac Pro which was very destructive on serve (when I could actually swing it!) Surprisingly I could get a lot of zip out of the 200G MW. And very recently I've discovered the BB11 mid, which is another frame which seems to have a kind of secret, special juice supply!

BTW, I see you've started looking for a Trysis 260... I've been looking for about 5 years! :mad::)
 
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now looking for a Trisys 260 MP :)
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Ross K said:
BTW, I see you've started looking for a Trysis 260... I've been looking for about 5 years! :mad::)
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Blame Onyx. He has like 5+ of them. In fact I just sold him one of mine. Was not aware that you guys were in the market for one.

But do not fret. Just contact tennislover33 on the boards. I also traded one of mine to him. If he does not like it he might sell it back to the boards.

Good luck!
 
frekcles said:
Blame Onyx. He has like 5+ of them. In fact I just sold him one of mine. Was not aware that you guys were in the market for one.

But do not fret. Just contact tennislover33 on the boards. I also traded one of mine to him. If he does not like it he might sell it back to the boards.

Good luck!
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Dude, i saw your post!!! totally bummed when it sold... but, hey, i'm sure there is one happy customer awaiting his new racquet,what a feeling...

You gonna CAP that MG Rad?
 
PED said:
This might be one of the best descriptions I've seen in a while :)
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when i read this, i blurted out a loud "Hah!" lol! i think i woke my kids up from their nap (long night ahead and also a long tomorrow... trying to get them to rest..)
 
Ross K said:
Interesting... I'm always noting down the names of killer serve rackets so here's another one to remember in the MG Rad Pro.

FWIW, my ultimate pop, big time power serving rods are - my no. 1 - the PD+. And then a couple more Babs including the PD standard, Pure Control, and PDR would all need a mention. The PSC 6.1 was awesome. I had a custom ex-pro's Fischer Vac Pro which was very destructive on serve (when I could actually swing it!) Surprisingly I could get a lot of zip out of the 200G MW. And very recently I've discovered the BB11 mid, which is another frame which seems to have a kind of secret, special juice supply!

BTW, I see you've started looking for a Trysis 260... I've been looking for about 5 years! :mad::)
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i have to second the PSC 6.1, i played with that racquet for close to 10 years! what a beauty!

Yeah, the good old Trisys 260 MP... i read somewhere that it plays close to the MG Prestige MP... or maybe at least the specs are similar... i hope my search does not take as long as yours;)
 
Well, my son and I played tonight (christmas night) under the lights and he had his first go with his christmas present: the MG Mid.

Really bad news...for me that is. His serve was outta this world and groundstrokes were coming over low and they were spitting venom from all the action on them.

He's coming from the aerostorm tour which has a similar weight (12.1 vs 12.35 for the mid with an og) but the mid is so much more headlight that his racquet head speed is through the roof. He was over the moon with the stick and I was really surprised at the control he was getting with it-he stuck a couple of returns at a hard angle in the service box that I could barely get to.

I'd love to have a go with the mid with some alu at around 51-I think it would be really nice. He's got Kgut in there at 62/59 and that's too boardy for me, but dang it sure works for him ;)


Ross, BTW, the mid is a sick serving stick. I was amazed at the pop that even I could get on my serve with it-you should check it out.
 
PED said:
Well, my son and I played tonight (christmas night) under the lights and he had his first go with his christmas present: the MG Mid.

Really bad news...for me that is. His serve was outta this world and groundstrokes were coming over low and they were spitting venom from all the action on them.

He's coming from the aerostorm tour which has a similar weight (12.1 vs 12.35 for the mid with an og) but the mid is so much more headlight that his racquet head speed is through the roof. He was over the moon with the stick and I was really surprised at the control he was getting with it-he stuck a couple of returns at a hard angle in the service box that I could barely get to.

I'd love to have a go with the mid with some alu at around 51-I think it would be really nice. He's got Kgut in there at 62/59 and that's too boardy for me, but dang it sure works for him ;)


Ross, BTW, the mid is a sick serving stick. I was amazed at the pop that even I could get on my serve with it-you should check it out.
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Very interesting PED. I'd def like to check it out, no doubt about it. And it sounds like a real possibility for you? Maybe you should pull the trigger and just get one for yourself? (Or you could always fake a break in steal your son's! :wink: )

Q though if I may... could you perhaps say a bit more re the general power level and especially the topspin capacity?
 
Ross, I think I may order one more mid-if I like it then I'll keep it and if it doesn't work out then my son will have a backup ;)

The power level is not an issue in my mind. The flex rating of both the mid and the PST is a 63 but the mid feels stiffer than the PST and this in turn gives it some nice power. I wish they made the mid with a 16X19 pattern and it would be perfect. Topspin is not an issue and I thought that it would be. The balls the mid produces seem to be lower trajectory balls but with plenty of action and spin. The spin seems more tight and the ball seems "heavier" and it hits through the court. Coming from a PST, I don't think you would have any issues with lower power with the mid.
 
PED said:
Ross, I think I may order one more mid-if I like it then I'll keep it and if it doesn't work out then my son will have a backup ;)

The power level is not an issue in my mind. The flex rating of both the mid and the PST is a 63 but the mid feels stiffer than the PST and this in turn gives it some nice power. I wish they made the mid with a 16X19 pattern and it would be perfect. Topspin is not an issue and I thought that it would be. The balls the mid produces seem to be lower trajectory balls but with plenty of action and spin. The spin seems more tight and the ball seems "heavier" and it hits through the court. Coming from a PST, I don't think you would have any issues with lower power with the mid.
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Great. Thanks. And I was indeed kind of thinking the precise same thing re a 16x19 head size (which btw I so liked on the BB11 mid I've been looking at recently.) But if, as you suggest, it isn't an in issue really with its other compensations - cool.
 
i guess i'm now a radical guy. i have 2 radical tour twin tube midpluses. one is the zebra, and the other is 1998 version - both Austria made. woot :D
 
Ah, impulse buying... I just ordered a shiny new FXP Radical Tour for what I though was an excellent price. It is strung with Sonic Pro and should be here by the end of the week, if not Monday.

What are your thoughts on these sticks? Oh, and how would they compare to my nBlade?
 
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why did they go from a prestige mold to a more round (wider) hoop?

my twin tubes are of the same mold as the PT630s...
 
I just bought 2 Mid+ MicroGel Radicals. I recently switched over from the kblade 93 because I wanted a lighter racquet. I've hit with it for about a week and I'm so glad I made the switch. I'm very impressed with this racquet, and I definitely want to join the club!

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Ross K said:
frekcles, jcs, PED, other RADsters,

Many thanks for informative posts but... er... how about the MG Rad Pro MP? What are a few ppls thoughts on this one?. Sorry guys, but when it comes to Head frames, I've previously been so into the PT 630, i. Prestige & the Rad Tour Twin Tube, that I'm a bit in the dark with the more recent incarnations... (BTW, PED, I hit with my PST again this afternoon and I really enjoyed it... :confused: ... go figure eh!?)
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I know this post is a little old, but i just wanted to add my thoughts.
my last raq. was a pure drive and I loved it. until i tried the mg pro mp. IMO, there are many differences. the pro is more solid feeling to start. after switching back and forth, i just didnt like the hollowness of the bab. I found myself keeping the ball in play longer and being able to swing away which i couldnt do with the bab cause it would sail long. so i believe i was able to produce more topspin. control was absolutely wonderful!!! it seemed like if i could think it, the ball would go there. but for me personaly, the biggest standout was the serve. no lie, i was practically hitting twice as many aces and many more unreturnables. sounds ficticious i know but its true. i picked up more power, spin, control, and pace with my serve. while it doesny quite have the plow through of a PS, it has more than the PD. I also demoed the k90 and liked it as well, but no matter what I did or tried to do, the MG PRO MP outshined both. now other opinions will vary of course but for me, I just feel so confident playing with the pro, that i believe I would give anyone a run for thier money!!!! If you havent already, you gotta try it Ross!!!
 
STEROID said:
I know this post is a little old, but i just wanted to add my thoughts.
my last raq. was a pure drive and I loved it. until i tried the mg pro mp. IMO, there are many differences. the pro is more solid feeling to start. after switching back and forth, i just didnt like the hollowness of the bab. I found myself keeping the ball in play longer and being able to swing away which i couldnt do with the bab cause it would sail long. so i believe i was able to produce more topspin. control was absolutely wonderful!!! it seemed like if i could think it, the ball would go there. but for me personaly, the biggest standout was the serve. no lie, i was practically hitting twice as many aces and many more unreturnables. sounds ficticious i know but its true. i picked up more power, spin, control, and pace with my serve. while it doesny quite have the plow through of a PS, it has more than the PD. I also demoed the k90 and liked it as well, but no matter what I did or tried to do, the MG PRO MP outshined both. now other opinions will vary of course but for me, I just feel so confident playing with the pro, that i believe I would give anyone a run for thier money!!!! If you havent already, you gotta try it Ross!!!
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Wow :!: That's one hell of a glowing endorsement, STEROID. There's no question that the MG Rad Pro interests me (and even more now.) I must admit to being a tad sceptical, because whilst I'm the 1st to admit that Babs can lack stability, a solid feel, and aren't plow frames usually, they still have a certain unbeatable 'bullying power', topspin capacity, and maneuverability that I keep coming back to. Cheers for that though. And if I get my hands on one, I'll post up my thoughts.

Mmmm... rereading your comments about the serve capabilities, it sure does sound appealing though! :roll:
 
Count me in, I just joined with the Liquid Metal Radical MP. Needed something with slightly more power than a M-Fill 200, so I picked the next best thing :P
 
I strung up my zebra yesterday with gamma synthetic gut full 60lb setup and it felt fine. wasn't as powerful as my gut x's, kirshbaum spiky mains setup...but i was able to adjust without too much difficulty
 
I really really want to get out and try my new Radical... but I haven't had a chance yet. Feels solid in the hand though.
 
hey sup guys:D im thinking of getting a rad mp....hoping to join this club soon:D lol im demoing it atm and shall let u know how it goes
 
Hey guys, today I bought a digital scale and weighed all of my racquets.

I have 3 1998 model TT Rad Tours (the zebra) and these weighed in at 346, 349 and 350 grams respectively, strung with overgrips. My 1 1995 model (yellow, silver and red) TT Rad weighed in at 338 grams strung with an overgrip. I know that we can't make a comparison between the two models having only weighed one example of a 1995, but it made me wonder if there MIGHT be differences other than the paintjob between these two models - or have I just got a lighter than usual 1995 TT Rad?

Anyway, I wonder if anybody who possesses either or both of these models and a digital scale could weigh them and post the results? Thanks!
 
My zebra (isn't the zebra the 1995 TT Radical) feels heavier than the 1998 Radical (yellow, red, black).

I have to weight them though to be sure. The thing is the zebra is unstrung right now so it won't reflect the actual strung weight.

I'll get back to you later.:)

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Hey guys, today I bought a digital scale and weighed all of my racquets.

I have 3 1998 model TT Rad Tours (the zebra) and these weighed in at 346, 349 and 350 grams respectively, strung with overgrips. My 1 1995 model (yellow, silver and red) TT Rad weighed in at 338 grams strung with an overgrip. I know that we can't make a comparison between the two models having only weighed one example of a 1995, but it made me wonder if there MIGHT be differences other than the paintjob between these two models - or have I just got a lighter than usual 1995 TT Rad?

Anyway, I wonder if anybody who possesses either or both of these models and a digital scale could weigh them and post the results? Thanks!
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I was out of tennis for about 10 years and I came back and I am the proud owner of 3 Microgel midsize Radicals. Love them. My wife also uses one.

I guess I am pretty easy to impress though considering that I was using a mid 1980s Head TXE racket for way too long.
 
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Thanks freckles, I guess I got the years of the respective tt rads mixed up! Interesting to hear that you also find the silver/yellow/red(1998!) model to feel lighter.
 
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Rad Tour Twin Tube - MP, standard size (w/ yellow, silver, black & red cosmetics... think it's the '98 version?)

I played with/really liked the XL version of this frame a while ago. But I have no experience of the standard size version...

. Could ppl please tell me all about how it serves...

. Could ppl please tell me how it compares to to the PT 280/630 or I. Prestige MP...

. Could ppl please tell me Rad Tour TT pros & cons in their opinion...

Cheers

R.
 
goldenyama said:
Hey guys, today I bought a digital scale and weighed all of my racquets.

I have 3 1998 model TT Rad Tours (the zebra) and these weighed in at 346, 349 and 350 grams respectively, strung with overgrips. My 1 1995 model (yellow, silver and red) TT Rad weighed in at 338 grams strung with an overgrip. I know that we can't make a comparison between the two models having only weighed one example of a 1995, but it made me wonder if there MIGHT be differences other than the paintjob between these two models - or have I just got a lighter than usual 1995 TT Rad?

Anyway, I wonder if anybody who possesses either or both of these models and a digital scale could weigh them and post the results? Thanks!
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Well first of all the zebra should be the 95 modell since the yellow silver and red came later around 98 i guess. I have 2 zebras that i play with that i managed to come bye new a while back. Strung with overgrip the heaviest one is 361 grams, and the other one about 350 i think. They are probably not made the same year though cause the grips are different, on the lighter version the end but looks more like in the new head rackets, possibly a little oval, while as the heavy one is more round......
 
I still like to whip out my Ti Rad MP when my game is off. I'd like to try the zebra sometime in the future though, sounds like a nice stick.
 
Pushmaster said:
I still like to whip out my Ti Rad MP when my game is off. I'd like to try the zebra sometime in the future though, sounds like a nice stick.
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I think the zebra is a very nice stick. Theres a lot of talk about the pro tour and allthough ive never tryed one i understand from others that the differense is not that great, so even if the zebra is no longer made its cheaper and much easier to get ahold of. So if youre going to use a great disscontinued stick i think this is a good choice.....
 
with 5 different OS Radicals i guess my place is here...


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Ross K said:
Rad Tour Twin Tube - MP, standard size (w/ yellow, silver, black & red cosmetics... think it's the '98 version?)

I played with/really liked the XL version of this frame a while ago. But I have no experience of the standard size version...

. Could ppl please tell me all about how it serves...

. Could ppl please tell me how it compares to to the PT 280/630 or I. Prestige MP...

. Could ppl please tell me Rad Tour TT pros & cons in their opinion...

Cheers

R.
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Anyone at all able to answer these queries?
 
frekcles, others,

Thanks frekcles. I'd certainly forgotten a lot of that info (in the links ^ you posted) that I, myself actually contributed to a few years back... :oops:

Nonetheless, I'm still not that sure on its serve capabilities... anyone care to comment?... I certainly didn't find the XL version that much of a felt-ripper (though it was a thing of beauty from the b-line.)

R.
 
I have a question for some of the radicals experts over here...

I recently switched to the MG radical MP, coming from the babolat APD (no cortex) for 2 years.
I demoed a lot of sticks looking for some more feel and control compared to the APD and finaly settled with the radical MP.
I'm actually pretty happy with the performance of the radical on the control and feel aspect, my placement improved significantly and serves are better then ever.
But as mentioned before, I also can't seem to get any 'free' power out of this stick. In the beginning this was a good thing, because I do like to take full cuts at the ball and playing the APD always had to cut back a little on my swings.

But it seems that when I play several days in a row (for about 1-1.5 hours/day) my arm start to hurt like ...
And I'm asking myself wether or not this is caused by the radical, since I never played that much with the APD?
Could it be possible that I just have to put to much effort on the power part with the radical,
and that's just more than my arm can bear? :-?

Any suggestion on how to overcome this problem are more then welcome...

I have my radical stock, strung with babolat xcel premium at 25kg (55lbs).
(APD used to be strung with full babolat PHT at 24kg.)

Thanks in advance
 
hey guys! has anyone played with the MG Rad Pro? Im thinking of getting it, but I wont have the chance to demo it, so i need opinions please :D i might be joining this club soon ;)
 
STEROID said:
I know this post is a little old, but i just wanted to add my thoughts.
my last raq. was a pure drive and I loved it. until i tried the mg pro mp. IMO, there are many differences. the pro is more solid feeling to start. after switching back and forth, i just didnt like the hollowness of the bab. I found myself keeping the ball in play longer and being able to swing away which i couldnt do with the bab cause it would sail long. so i believe i was able to produce more topspin. control was absolutely wonderful!!! it seemed like if i could think it, the ball would go there. but for me personaly, the biggest standout was the serve. no lie, i was practically hitting twice as many aces and many more unreturnables. sounds ficticious i know but its true. i picked up more power, spin, control, and pace with my serve. while it doesny quite have the plow through of a PS, it has more than the PD. I also demoed the k90 and liked it as well, but no matter what I did or tried to do, the MG PRO MP outshined both. now other opinions will vary of course but for me, I just feel so confident playing with the pro, that i believe I would give anyone a run for thier money!!!! If you havent already, you gotta try it Ross!!!
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hi Steroid. I have a question for you: is it comfy in the arm? Im thinking of getting one but Im not sure if getting this one or the Prestige pro, so Im wondering which one of these two is softer, since I've had elbow injuries. Maybe you can tell me a little bit about the MG Rad pro ;)
 
Ross K said:
Rad Tour Twin Tube - MP, standard size (w/ yellow, silver, black & red cosmetics... think it's the '98 version?)

I played with/really liked the XL version of this frame a while ago. But I have no experience of the standard size version...

. Could ppl please tell me all about how it serves...

. Could ppl please tell me how it compares to to the PT 280/630 or I. Prestige MP...

. Could ppl please tell me Rad Tour TT pros & cons in their opinion...

Cheers

R.
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I havent played enough frames to consider myself such an expert that i could say how it performs in comparison. I can only say i think it does very well in all aspekts of the game, accept on volleys i can imagine theres plenty of better frames out there. You should just buy one of the bay and have a go for youreself, they show up all the time and usually doesnt go for very much.........
 
^^STiffness between the Rad Pro and Pres Pro is almost dead even: 64 for the rad and 63 for the Pres. From the arm friendly angle, I would say they are both neutral and are more dependent on what string you have in there. I just moved to the Pres Pro and like the extra weight and stability of that over the Rad but that's pure personal preference.
 
I was an original owner of 4 Zebras from 1996-2002. I always loved this stick. In fact, I just played it last night and won. I had not beaten this guy in weeks. The TT Radical, to me, is the best feeling Radical (Head racquet altogether) I ever played.

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With all this enthusiasm I'm tempted to just get a LM Radical MP just because they are so readily available and the price is pretty good too. Is it too light though if you use it stock? I'm used to racquets around 12.1-12.3 oz which gives it that solid heft.
 
Hey guys. What about the flexpoint radical tour? Does it play similar to the MG radical pro?
 
gocard said:
With all this enthusiasm I'm tempted to just get a LM Radical MP just because they are so readily available and the price is pretty good too. Is it too light though if you use it stock? I'm used to racquets around 12.1-12.3 oz which gives it that solid heft.
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it has decent heft stock
but you might want to lead it up if your used to heavier sticks
it can get pushed around though against harder hitters
 
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Owner of 2 LM Radical MP's....best sticks i've had
 
Just picked up a Flexpoint Radical Tour from the TW liquidation section. $50 for it! I checked it, and apart from some scuffs/scrapes on the bumper and some wear at 3 and 9, it looks great.

Sounds like I got a great bargain. I hit with it for a bit in a racquetball court. Felt good. I'm loving the head grip shape.

I hope it's great when I hit with it tomorrow. Now i just gotta get rid of my ntour!
 
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