Longest streaks without small events - Djokovic 2019-20 is his 2nd longest and 6th overall

Lew II

Lew II

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Longest streaks excluding the lowest tier of tournaments (250s):

1) Borg 1978 Davis Cup - 1978 US Open - 40
/ Djokovic 2010 Davis Cup - 2011 Roland Garros - 40
3) McEnroe 1983 Masters Cup - 1984 Roland Garros - 38
4) Federer 2006 US Open - 2007 Dubai - 36
5) Borg 1979 Davis Cup - 1980 Davis Cup - 31
6) Djokovic 2019 Davis Cup - 2020 US Open - 29
7) Djokovic 2013 Davis Cup - 2014 Australian Open - 28
/ Djokovic 2015 Davis Cup - 2015 Roland Garros - 28
9) Nadal 2008 Hamburg - 2008 Cincinnati - 27
10) Borg 1979 Roland Garros - 1979 US Open - 26
McEnroe 1982 San Francisco - 1982 Masters - 26
Agassi 1995 Washington - 1996 US Open - 26

Djokovic's current streak is his 2nd longest and the 6th longest in the Open Era.
 
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HetTheGreaterer

HetTheGreaterer

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RF-18 said:
The classical reason. Nobody has ever anything better to come with than "weak era". We get it, you aren't happy about Djokovic's assualt on history.
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I'm not happy with thiem, monfils, rba, raonic being unable to close him out when they should have.
I'm not happy with the lack of emerging ATG talents on tour since 2014.
It has nothing to do with nole.
 
beard

beard

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HetTheGreaterer said:
It doesn't.
How is nole responsible for players mugging up against him? How is he responsible for back-to-back tennis generations failing to snatch the throne??
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Because Nole is winning everything... If that's not so, mugging wouldn't bother you at all... Just look at desperation of many Federer and some Nadal fans... "Who can stop Novak"... " Dear God, who can beat him now", "Go Zverev, go Tsitsipas...damn Tsi is out, buahaha"... This is so funny to read...
 
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blablavla

G.O.A.T.
Lew II said:
Longest streaks excluding the lowest tier of tournaments (250s):

1) Borg 1978 Davis Cup - 1978 US Open - 40
/ Djokovic 2010 Davis Cup - 2011 Roland Garros - 40
3) McEnroe 1983 Masters Cup - 1984 Roland Garros - 38
4) Federer 2006 US Open - 2007 Dubai - 36
5) Borg 1979 Davis Cup - 1980 Davis Cup - 31
6) Djokovic 2019 Davis Cup - 2020 US Open - 29
7) Djokovic 2013 Davis Cup - 2014 Australian Open - 28
/ Djokovic 2015 Davis Cup - 2015 Roland Garros - 28
9) Nadal 2008 Hamburg - 2008 Cincinnati - 27
10) Borg 1979 Roland Garros - 1979 US Open - 26
McEnroe 1982 San Francisco - 1982 Masters - 26
Agassi 1995 Washington - 1996 US Open - 26

Djokovic's current streak is his 2nd longest and the 6th longest in the Open Era.
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since when Davis Cup is a tournament with strong field?
 
Lew II

Lew II

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chut said:
Exclusion of "small tournaments" being completely arbitrary (and impossible to put in those terms for the 90's and 80's), it's another irrelevant stat. Well done!
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Yes it's personal, or arbitrary if you prefer to call it that way.

I don't think Vilas dominated tennis despite winning 1000 mickey mouse tournaments in a row.
 
Lew II

Lew II

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Towny said:
Different issue. He lost that match by all accounts. Being defaulted is a valid way of losing a match. Had PCB been 1 game away from winning and Djokovic was given a game penalty, would you not count that as a loss?
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Yes.
 
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StrongRule

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Towny said:
Different issue. He lost that match by all accounts. Being defaulted is a valid way of losing a match. Had PCB been 1 game away from winning and Djokovic was given a game penalty, would you not count that as a loss?
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@Lew II is a pathetic troll. He is always saying that official stats is the only thing that matters. But when it doesn't suit his cherry picking he is suddenly ignoring official stats. :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
 
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ChrisRF

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Towny said:
Different issue. He lost that match by all accounts. Being defaulted is a valid way of losing a match. Had PCB been 1 game away from winning and Djokovic was given a game penalty, would you not count that as a loss?
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I fully agree. I accept the category "full field tournaments" (Slams and Masters) as important, but for a winning streak a loss at a smaller tournament doesn’t look better in a way that you could exclude it there.

But even if someone wants to see it this way, there is no way around the US Open loss, DQ or not. Or otherwise he could always retire at match point for his opponent and “wouldn’t lose a full match”. Remember PCB had the lead and served for the 1st set. Not that I believe he would have won in the end, but that’s not the question.
 
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SonnyT

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You have to congratulate Federer and Nadal for supporting small regional events! Since his parents' tournament folded in Serbia, Novak didn't bother!
 
Towny

Towny

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ChrisRF said:
I fully agree. I accept the category "full field tournaments" (Slams and Masters) as important, but for a winning streak a loss at a smaller tournament doesn’t look better in a way that you could exclude it there.

But even if someone wants to see it this way, there is no way around the US Open loss, DQ or not. Or otherwise he could always retire at match point for his opponent and “wouldn’t lose a full match”. Remember PCB had the lead and served for the 1st set. Not that I believe he would have won in the end, but that’s not the question.
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To be honest, I do question the validity of a system which includes team events like the Davis cup and the ATP cup as well as ATP 500s but excludes ATP 250s. Especially when the division between 500s and 250s is a relatively recent thing and wouldn't apply to players like Borg and McEnroe. But, hey, Lew can place the division wherever he wants, he's (presumably) not asking us to agree that it is a valid or useful categorisation.

But yeah, Lew is just plain wrong about not counting the default as a loss. When both the ATP and the ITF mark it as a loss, as well as common internet sources of tennis data including Wikipedia, Tennis Abstract and Lew's own favourite Ultimate Tennis Statistics, it's clearly a loss
 
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merlinpinpin

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Lew II said:
Official ATP stats don't exclude minor tournaments from streaks either.
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So, US Open officially confirmed as a "minor tournament", then? You never disappoint, Lew. :-D

In this case, you probably want to revise your list. Guess the biggest streak is about 0... or 41 if you count Wimbledon above everything else (Fed--he may have gotten a no-show during 2003-2008, though).
 
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Hitman

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Lew II said:
Longest streaks excluding the lowest tier of tournaments (250s):

1) Borg 1978 Davis Cup - 1978 US Open - 40
/ Djokovic 2010 Davis Cup - 2011 Roland Garros - 40
3) McEnroe 1983 Masters Cup - 1984 Roland Garros - 38
4) Federer 2006 US Open - 2007 Dubai - 36
5) Borg 1979 Davis Cup - 1980 Davis Cup - 31
6) Djokovic 2019 Davis Cup - 2020 US Open - 29
7) Djokovic 2013 Davis Cup - 2014 Australian Open - 28
/ Djokovic 2015 Davis Cup - 2015 Roland Garros - 28
9) Nadal 2008 Hamburg - 2008 Cincinnati - 27
10) Borg 1979 Roland Garros - 1979 US Open - 26
McEnroe 1982 San Francisco - 1982 Masters - 26
Agassi 1995 Washington - 1996 US Open - 26

Djokovic's current streak is his 2nd longest and the 6th longest in the Open Era.
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Very creative. ;)
 
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StrongRule

Talk Tennis Guru
blablavla said:
Perhaps because those are official & legit events?
Unlike cherry picking random numbers
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Lew is still like this after USO:


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JackGates

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RF-18 said:
The classical reason. Nobody has ever anything better to come with than "weak era". We get it, you aren't happy about Djokovic's assualt on history.
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Not true, I think all big 3 had a weak era. In the past nobody was able to have such streaks due to polarization of surfaces.
Why are Djokovic fans so ignorant about tennis history?
 
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RelentlessAttack

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JackGates said:
Not true, I think all big 3 had a weak era. In the past nobody was able to have such streaks due to polarization of surfaces.
Why are Djokovic fans so ignorant about tennis history?
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Right they all benefited from homogenization and stabilization of racket tech. Djokovic has ended up benefiting the most by virtue of being the youngest and peaking the latest, so he’s had the most gas to rule over the useless generations. But it’s not his fault the generations raised on low swing weights and poly strings are pathetic. Tennis developmental orgs do need to figure this out sooner or later though bc as boring as the tour has been for the past few years, it’ll be even worse once these guys finally retire. No one will be turning up to watch Thiem and Z choke it up against each other
 
Phoenix1983

Phoenix1983

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Is this streak meant to be impressive?

It's just which tournaments he's attending. Strange stat to try and prove his greatness.

But, you know, Lew will be Lew.
 
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