Looking for a new Players Frame

#1
I'm coming off of the Wilson 6.1 18x20 and i'm looking for something that will give me a more spin and RHS without sacrificing too much power/plow. I've seen a lot of praise from the Angell racquets and am tempted to try it. But there's a few people who don't seem to like it and a few who even said it hurts their arm. If i were to grab one it'd be the 63 ra and 16x19. Next up would be a Yonex SV 95 and then the Prince 93P. I'm really interested in the 93P but i'm hoping they will release a 16x19 version because if they do that'll be my bread and butter. Curious to hear everyone's thoughts and recommendations on this topic because i've been hoping to find a placement for my 6.1 for a long time now.
 
#2
I'm coming off of the Wilson 6.1 18x20 and i'm looking for something that will give me a more spin and RHS without sacrificing too much power/plow. I've seen a lot of praise from the Angell racquets and am tempted to try it. But there's a few people who don't seem to like it and a few who even said it hurts their arm. If i were to grab one it'd be the 63 ra and 16x19. Next up would be a Yonex SV 95 and then the Prince 93P. I'm really interested in the 93P but i'm hoping they will release a 16x19 version because if they do that'll be my bread and butter. Curious to hear everyone's thoughts and recommendations on this topic because i've been hoping to find a placement for my 6.1 for a long time now.
Ultra tour with lead
Blade 18x20
 
#4
Textreme Tour 95 with lead, 60ra, 16x19, very close to the specs you mentioned.
Personally experimenting with leaded up Microgel Radical MP, surprising amount of spin for a 18x20.
 
#5
I'm coming off of the Wilson 6.1 18x20 and i'm looking for something that will give me a more spin and RHS without sacrificing too much power/plow. I've seen a lot of praise from the Angell racquets and am tempted to try it. But there's a few people who don't seem to like it and a few who even said it hurts their arm. If i were to grab one it'd be the 63 ra and 16x19. Next up would be a Yonex SV 95 and then the Prince 93P. I'm really interested in the 93P but i'm hoping they will release a 16x19 version because if they do that'll be my bread and butter. Curious to hear everyone's thoughts and recommendations on this topic because i've been hoping to find a placement for my 6.1 for a long time now.
I think weighted up PS97 would be the prime suspect because you can get more spin and RHS with power and plow.
RF97 will also give you a lot of spin, but not RHS...unless maybe if you pick out a lighter spec one from TW stock.

Yonex DR98 is a more comfortable/controlled option that will give you more spin than 6.1 but less power.

Prince 93P
is great and you may even love it, but just going by what you think you want - it is unlikely to give you more spin and will be less powerful than 6.1


EDIT: There is also slightly older Six.One 95S

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/61S/61SReview.html
 
#10
I think weighted up PS97 would be the prime suspect because you can get more spin and RHS with power and plow.
RF97 will also give you a lot of spin, but not RHS...unless maybe if you pick out a lighter spec one from TW stock.

Yonex DR98 is a more comfortable/controlled option that will give you more spin than 6.1 but less power.

Prince 93P
is great and you may even love it, but just going by what you think you want - it is unlikely to give you more spin and will be less powerful than 6.1


EDIT: There is also slightly older Six.One 95S

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/61S/61SReview.html
I demo'd the RF97 and although i didn't feel the heft that most people say, it was just a bit too much power. Most of my shots that would normally dip down at the baseline was going 4-5 inches out.

I had the DR98 previously but for whatever reason i never could get dialed in. My shots never felt solid. In fact my blade 98 18x20 2015 felt much better but with less spin. Both felt slower through the air than the 6.1 that's why i went back to it.

The 93P really intrigues me because i've got a classic game. Eastern forehand, OHBH, always on the gas, and looking for a short ball to end the point. It's just with 18x20 i've always had a lower launch angle and less spin with my eastern forehand that's why i'm looking into 16x19.

I still love my 6.1 but sometimes i want just a tad more spin so i'm hoping for get a racquet that swings faster and has a more open string pattern. That's why i was also looking at the TC95 63RA 16 mains.
 
#12
I demo'd the RF97 and although i didn't feel the heft that most people say, it was just a bit too much power. Most of my shots that would normally dip down at the baseline was going 4-5 inches out.

I had the DR98 previously but for whatever reason i never could get dialed in. My shots never felt solid. In fact my blade 98 18x20 2015 felt much better but with less spin. Both felt slower through the air than the 6.1 that's why i went back to it.

The 93P really intrigues me because i've got a classic game. Eastern forehand, OHBH, always on the gas, and looking for a short ball to end the point. It's just with 18x20 i've always had a lower launch angle and less spin with my eastern forehand that's why i'm looking into 16x19.

I still love my 6.1 but sometimes i want just a tad more spin so i'm hoping for get a racquet that swings faster and has a more open string pattern. That's why i was also looking at the TC95 63RA 16 mains.
What do you string your 6.1 with? Maybe you can get more spin with different setup.

Also 6.1 comes with 16x19 too - did you try that?
 
#13
I demo'd the RF97 and although i didn't feel the heft that most people say, it was just a bit too much power. Most of my shots that would normally dip down at the baseline was going 4-5 inches out.

I had the DR98 previously but for whatever reason i never could get dialed in. My shots never felt solid. In fact my blade 98 18x20 2015 felt much better but with less spin. Both felt slower through the air than the 6.1 that's why i went back to it.

The 93P really intrigues me because i've got a classic game. Eastern forehand, OHBH, always on the gas, and looking for a short ball to end the point. It's just with 18x20 i've always had a lower launch angle and less spin with my eastern forehand that's why i'm looking into 16x19.

I still love my 6.1 but sometimes i want just a tad more spin so i'm hoping for get a racquet that swings faster and has a more open string pattern. That's why i was also looking at the TC95 63RA 16 mains.
TC95 16x19 has nothing on 93P as far as I'm concerned.

As far as what kind of spin you can get, here is me hitting weighted up 93P with 19g Cyclone:

 
#17
I'm coming off of the Wilson 6.1 18x20 and i'm looking for something that will give me a more spin and RHS without sacrificing too much power/plow. I've seen a lot of praise from the Angell racquets and am tempted to try it. But there's a few people who don't seem to like it and a few who even said it hurts their arm. If i were to grab one it'd be the 63 ra and 16x19. Next up would be a Yonex SV 95 and then the Prince 93P. I'm really interested in the 93P but i'm hoping they will release a 16x19 version because if they do that'll be my bread and butter. Curious to hear everyone's thoughts and recommendations on this topic because i've been hoping to find a placement for my 6.1 for a long time now.
Trying different Wilson models will at least give you a pretty familiar grip profile in your hand. I wasn't wild about the PS 97 from a couple years ago, even after I tuned it with some lead tape, but I'm currently trying out a couple of the 2015 Blade 98 rigs (16x19) and they're working a little better than expected.

I've used a lot of different racquets through the years having all sorts of string patterns. A couple of frames that gave me awesome spin potential have had dense 18x20 patterns and produced lots of rpm's strung with basic syn. gut. Try to avoid ruling in or ruling out any racquets you might otherwise try for yourself only because of the string layout.

The Yonex and Prince frames you mentioned are probably smart ones to try out. I'm a happy Volkl nerd, so I'll give that label a nod, too. I haven't sampled their V-Sense 10 Mid, but that looks like one you might like. The V-Sense 10 Tour is even a bit lighter, but might be a fun player. Any decent frame that needs just a little more stability can be tuned easily enough with just a little lead tape. If it doesn't help the cause, peeling it off is easy enough.

I played the 6.1 Classics for some years before my switch to the Volkl C10 - I later added Volkl's O10 325g to my bag. These weigh in around 12.6-12.8 oz. with about 10 pts. HL balance (tuned with lead tape). Now that I'm 52, I'm experimenting with mildly lighter options and everything you've mentioned, including the Utra Tour, seem like reasonable options. I'm sure I'll be sampling that Ultra Tour this summer.
 
#18
Sounds like i'm gonna have to try the 93p, a weighted up ultra tour, and prestige mid
I’d second that. I’ve played with the Ultra tour a bit and own a 93P. Really think they are excellent frames for an all court game. Pin point accuracy, maneuverable, easy to transition from baseline to net. Good power but not free power (well more the 93P than the Ultra).
 
#20
Sounds like i'm gonna have to try the 93p, a weighted up ultra tour, and prestige mid
I have both the Prestige Mid & the Ultra Tour. Both very good racquets, I prefer the Mid for it’s size and solid feeling. Plus it has more power than the Ultra Tour.

I would loved to have tried the 93p, but it’s not available in my country.
 
#23
One factoid I will mention is whether you use a lower cross tension. Just 1-3# lower can open up the spin rate that the frame can generate. I have Radical MP players that do this and they have no issues generating spin.
 
#25
I demo'd the RF97 and although i didn't feel the heft that most people say, it was just a bit too much power. Most of my shots that would normally dip down at the baseline was going 4-5 inches out.

I had the DR98 previously but for whatever reason i never could get dialed in. My shots never felt solid. In fact my blade 98 18x20 2015 felt much better but with less spin. Both felt slower through the air than the 6.1 that's why i went back to it.

The 93P really intrigues me because i've got a classic game. Eastern forehand, OHBH, always on the gas, and looking for a short ball to end the point. It's just with 18x20 i've always had a lower launch angle and less spin with my eastern forehand that's why i'm looking into 16x19.

I still love my 6.1 but sometimes i want just a tad more spin so i'm hoping for get a racquet that swings faster and has a more open string pattern. That's why i was also looking at the TC95 63RA 16 mains.
The 93p seems to have a high launch angle for an 18x20
 

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#26
A friend of mine played the 6.1 w/ 18x20 for a very long time and has just switched to the PS97L and loves it. He tried the LS too but didn’t like it and wanted to. He plays 4.5 which is more like open around here because of the lack of numbers.
 
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