Looking for Advice: Stringer <$1000

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Don't forget the tertiary benefit of scoring with the ladies. Us stringers are generally already chick magnets, but add in fancy electronic equipment and it's almost like Beatle-mania all over again.
You too, ehh? I find that living in a two-story house bordered by a lake on the back side and behind two gates in front on a cul de sac really helps slow the flow.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Rabbit, thank you so much for your input. This is what I've been trying to understand but had hard times finding evidence - how much value there is in a 6 point mount compared to 2-point mount, how much it actually adds by way of preserving shape of the frame under unbalanced stress.

Could you please share a link to measurement data which confirm that there is no distortion in 2-point mount, or distortion greater than that with a 6 point mount? Without data, it is nothing but speculation, and I had trouble finding such data even though I am sure such data exist. I am truly curious as this topic comes up over and over again in the forums.
Sorry, my post was based on experience; i.e. anecdotal. I owned a Prince NEOS 1000, NEOS 1500 and now a Mighty Sensor. IME, the two-point (really 4 to 6 point) mounts of the Prince were solid. I can't quote you a study per se. I do know that reading posts on here I've seen @Irvin discuss rackets coming off shorter and "jumping" off the mount. I never experienced that with the Prince products. After seeing the 'my racket is shorter' posts, I measured one or two frames off the 1500. They were the same going on and coming off.

Now, there may be some engineering-based explanation of why a six-point is better. I am not an engineer nor do I pretend to be one. All I know is what I've seen over the 40 some odd years I've been stringing.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Rabbit, thank you so much for your input. This is what I've been trying to understand but had hard times finding evidence - how much value there is in a 6 point mount compared to 2-point mount, how much it actually adds by way of preserving shape of the frame under unbalanced stress.

Could you please share a link to measurement data which confirm that there is no distortion in 2-point mount, or distortion greater than that with a 6 point mount? Without data, it is nothing but speculation, and I had trouble finding such data even though I am sure such data exist. I am truly curious as this topic comes up over and over again in the forums.
There should be no distortion of the finished racket whether you use a 2 or 6 point mount. But the racket will flex while you’re stringing the racket. There will be more flexing with a 2 point as opposed to a 6 point mount. There’s not 1 top of the line professional stringing machine that uses a 2 point mount.
 

Tennis_dude101

Semi-Pro
Maybe its a case of the stringing machine manufactures moving to 6 point mounting to keep their competitive advantage when compared to their peers? They have to have some selling points to justify the the higher price of their top level machines.
 

pmata814

Professional
I have a gamma 6004 2-point mount. My frames ALWAYS jump off the mount when i’m done stringing. Called gamma and tried some things but nothing changed. I just accepted it and stopped worrying about it.


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Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Maybe its a case of the stringing machine manufactures moving to 6 point mounting to keep their competitive advantage when compared to their peers? They have to have some selling points to justify the the higher price of their top level machines.
I have a gamma 6004 2-point mount. My frames ALWAYS jump off the mount when i’m done stringing. Called gamma and tried some things but nothing changed. I just accepted it and stopped worrying about it.


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try using the Stringway tension adviser.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
try using the Stringway online tension advisor Vhttp://www.stringway-nl.com/en/TAonline/calc3.php
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
There should be no distortion of the finished racket whether you use a 2 or 6 point mount. But the racket will flex while you’re stringing the racket.
Agree.

There will be more flexing with a 2 point as opposed to a 6 point mount.
Disagree. There was no flexing with the Prince machines. I know, I used them. The 1000 and 1500 locked the frame in. It wasn't like a six-point where the racket "floats" in the mount.
And your claim is based on?

There’s not 1 top of the line professional stringing machine that uses a 2 point mount.
Agree. But that doesn't make it better. There's not one top of the line sports care other than Porsche that uses a flat six engine, does that make a Porsche bad?
 

pmata814

Professional
try using the Stringway tension adviser.
Im confused. How does this apply to my issue of the frame popping off the mount when it’s finished? (Not trying to be rude, genuinely asking)


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Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Im confused. How does this apply to my issue of the frame popping off the mount when it’s finished? (Not trying to be rude, genuinely asking)


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If your frame is popping off the mounts it is being deformed while stringing. The Stringway Online tension advisor take into account the width, length, # of mains, and # of crosses to determine the best tension for a particular. I usually determine a DT close to what I expect to use then use the difference in main and cross tension and keep that tension difference constant. For instance if there is a 2 kg difference and I string the mains at 25 kg and crosses at 23 kg and want to vary tension up or down i maintain the 2 kg difference.
 

pmata814

Professional
If your frame is popping off the mounts it is being deformed while stringing. The Stringway Online tension advisor take into account the width, length, # of mains, and # of crosses to determine the best tension for a particular. I usually determine a DT close to what I expect to use then use the difference in main and cross tension and keep that tension difference constant. For instance if there is a 2 kg difference and I string the mains at 25 kg and crosses at 23 kg and want to vary tension up or down i maintain the 2 kg difference.
Gotcha. Thanks!


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