Looking For Name of Dunlop Racquet (circa 95)

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Looking For The Name Of A Dunlop Racquet (circa 95)

sup everybuddy, this is my first post, great forum absolutely great I have been reading nonstop while waiting for my screen name to take effect...I particularly enjoyed the argument about who's one-hand backhand is the best for a beginner to emulate.

I just recently got my tennis swagger back, after about 10 years without playing (for many reasons) I won a few local tournaments as a junior.

When I left off, I had just purchased a Dunlop replacement racquet for my head, the replacement was a Dunlop that came out around 95-96, give or take a year.

I bought this Dunlop, which was the best racquet I have ever hit with - extremely comfortable and dampened feel, shortly after I bought it the racquet was stolen out of my car, I couldn't afford another one at that point so I went back to using my head...then my schedule became busier and my playing time gradually tapered off and I eventually stopped, for 10 years :(.

Unfortunetly, I've completely forgotten the name of this Dunlop (since I owned it for such a short time) I'm trying to track this Dunlop down, because I've started hitting again but don't have an adequate racquet, and I hit with the M-fils which are GOOD, but not like I remember this 95 era Dunlop.

SO HERE IS THE CLUE'S:


It was a Line of Dunlops that had, to the best of my recollection, 3 different frames of increasing width:

A very narrow body, A midsize, and one that was wider bodied.


The Racquet I'm looking to track down was the MID-SIZE frame, but was not a widebody, the colors on it were RED AND BLACK, it was a mixture of these colors all over the entire racquet I believe.

The most narrow framed racquet in that line Definetly had green on it, and possibly black, I think it had green streeks mixed in with the black <--- this was the most narrow bodied racquet in this particular Dunlop line.


I have POSSIBLY narrowed it down and believe it MIGHT be either one of the "Muscle Weave", OR "Revelation" Racquets...althoug I could be wrong and in my searches I haven't been able find any pictures of these racquets on the net.




Any Help would be greatly appreciated, I am looking to buy this racquet as well if anyone is looking to sell one, and I am hoping and praying that they are still around...


thanks for any help or suggestions
 
movdqa said:
I have three of these that are my regular racquets. One is in matte finish and the other in the shiny finish. I have another at 4 3/8 that was used by the kids when they were younger.

I wouldn't mind having another at 4 5/8.

http://www.vector64.com/Tennis/matte1.jpg
http://www.vector64.com/Tennis/matte2.jpg
http://www.vector64.com/Tennis/shiny1.jpg
http://www.vector64.com/Tennis/shiny2.jpg
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Yes! pic 2 or 4 look similar to the one I had! although mine had a black or black/red handle.... Is this the "Revelation Tour Pro Mid" that these pictures are of?


So you're looking for more of these is what you're saying? Or were you thinking of selling one of these and buy a newer one??


thanks for postin the pics
 
One more question, Does anyone know if the Muscle Weave Frames looked similar to the Revelation's, or what year the muscle weave's came out?

I called Dunlop but they said they switched all their computer systems over from some old software and they didn't keep any old info, not even on the last 300G they only had info on the M-Fils (or so they say).


I was wondering if anybody had any pictures of the muscle weave's and if someone knows what year they came out?


thanks I appreciate all the responses, I think I've almost got this solved, which is a relief because I have been literally yearning for this racquet, lol.


almost one step closer to reuniting with my baby...


Although I have to say the racquet does not make ALL the difference, I have played well with some racquets that weren't that great, but this racquet seemed to make a difference on crucial shots under pressure because I was so comfortable with the feel of it.
 
Yes, very nice racquets. I have a 4 5/8 matte one and a 4 1/2 shiny (second generation) one that I don't use any more. Please e-mail me if you're interested (click on my user name at left).
 
Keifers said:
Yes, very nice racquets. I have a 4 5/8 matte one and a 4 1/2 shiny (second generation) one that I don't use any more. Please e-mail me if you're interested (click on my user name at left).
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I sent out the email, so if you don't happen to receive it let me know here in this thread, as this sites server seems to do some funny things sometimes.
 
AgassisGoneEndOfAnEra :( said:
http://web.archive.org/web/19981201234722/www.tennis-warehouse.com/DPics/TP.html

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/TP10/TP10Review.html

^^^oh yeah! I Just found these links searching this forum, and I'm almost positive this is it! This is the same racquet as in your pictures movdqa, correct?


thanks everyone, I really do appreciate it I was struggling to figure this out on my own.
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Yup. That's it. I have one with the original grip too. It's a 4 1/4 not a 4 3/8. The other two racquets have overgrips on them (that's why you see Head and Wilson on the tape). I have been looking around for another racquet but I've been using these for so long that it would take some getting used to using something else.

One really nice feature of these racquets is that there is a removable cap at the bottom of the handle that you can pop off. If you want to add weight, you can just pour something in. Or use lead tape as there's a piece down the middle that you can just stick it on to. I used silicone caulk in both of the racquets. One of the racquets has lead and other pieces of metal in it and this is my favorite. The other one I just stuck 4 4.5 inch nails into the silicon caulk.

I'm a tech person so I would think that are improvements out there in newer racquets that should produce better results but it is a lot of work trying out the new stuff. And there are lots of folks here that go out and do that.

Our son used the 4 1/4 racquet but is a lot bigger now. Our daughter didn't like the racquet as it had too little power. She's using a widebody right now which has too much power so I'm looking for something in-between for her.
 
movdqa said:
Yup. That's it. I have one with the original grip too. It's a 4 1/4 not a 4 3/8. The other two racquets have overgrips on them (that's why you see Head and Wilson on the tape). I have been looking around for another racquet but I've been using these for so long that it would take some getting used to using something else.

One really nice feature of these racquets is that there is a removable cap at the bottom of the handle that you can pop off. If you want to add weight, you can just pour something in. Or use lead tape as there's a piece down the middle that you can just stick it on to. I used silicone caulk in both of the racquets. One of the racquets has lead and other pieces of metal in it and this is my favorite. The other one I just stuck 4 4.5 inch nails into the silicon caulk.

Our son used the 4 1/4 racquet but is a lot bigger now. Our daughter didn't like the racquet as it had too little power. She's using a widebody right now which has too much power so I'm looking for something in-between for her.
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Interesting stuff about how you modify your racquets, thanks for the info.

My email is lnw9000@yahoo.com, please let me know if you are interested in selling one of these at some point.

Although I may buy a tour pro mp from keifers if 4 5/8 grip is not to big for my hands, (which it may be) but if I buy his I would still be interested in another one in a month or so.



movdqa said:
I'm a tech person so I would think that are improvements out there in newer racquets that should produce better results but it is a lot of work trying out the new stuff. And there are lots of folks here that go out and do that.
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I hear you, with all the rapid advancement in technology in recent years, you would think that the racquets would be engineered in a superior fashion in this day and age, but the bottom line of capitalism means that companies have to compromise in order to compete and make a profit.

I believe companies are trying to implement newer technologies using cheaper materials, inferior to those used in the past, to lower the overall cost of production.

e.g.. some people claim the graphite in the newer Dunlops does not feel as good as the graphite in older models when hitting..

I also believe that the reason there are reports of newer racquets not having uniform weights (swing and unstrung), among the same exact model, could be due to the outsourcing of manufacturing at the absolute cheapest available price, in countries where working conditions are horrible and quality control is not that great because everything is geared toward high-speed and low-cost.


The same thing has happened in the electronic musical instrument industry, nowadays they have supposedly superior technology, but if you ask some experts they don't have the same quality of sound as old school electronic instruments due to inferior build quality, and cheaper parts such D>A A>D converters, sound generation components etc.... The emphasis first and foremost has been to cheapen production costs, the new technology they implement is the selling point but doesn't always make the product better then past generations of the same type of product, in some of the most important areas.
 
I was actually thinking of buying that 4 5/8ths racquet but it seems like you
need it more than I do. If you don't want it, then I may look into buying it.
I prefer the play of the matte finish racquet to the shiny one. I don't know
if there are supposed to be any differences in playability.

As far as companies maximizing profits goes, yes, that's what they are supposed
to do. I see $250 racquets that go on sale in the fall for $80 and think to myself
that they're probably still doing well at that price and that the store cost must
be 50% of the sale price. I suppose that it costs a lot of money to run a retail store and getting enough people to pay $250 for a racquet goes to cover a lot of costs.

Or get good players to turn over racquets fairly frequently with new technology
at lower price points. But you'll need to feed out technology developments over time to keep customers buying. To the point where you have a cash stream.

One of the basics of wealth management is to build streams of income that
require little maintenance and then use the profits from those streams to
build other streams of income. And avoid outgoing streams instead replacing
them with capital expenditures. Buying racquets every year seems to me to
be something to avoid if you care about your finances. There are other
costs associated with changing racquets every year. It's not as bad as
changing cars or houses but there are time and adjustment costs.

I will probably try a few racquets like the Pure Drive and nCode6 as I know
a few people with those racquets and will try to borrow one for a few hits.
The tough part, of course, will be to convince myself to actually spend that
much on a racquet. And go through the experimental work to customize
that potential racquet.
 
sure, I'll let you know if that grip is too big so you can grab it, thanks for not going after it right away to give me a chance at a reunion with it.


So you're not looking to sell the 4 1/4th grip I take it?

(wow, I really need to find out my gripsize, gotta get to the tennis shop in the next couple days as my current racquet does not list the gripsize)


It's a hard business to be in, especially right now as the popularity of tennis does not seem to be growing among the young.


I just think that if these companies are making racquets with cheaper materials eventually people will realize it, and this will not be good for the industry either.


I think most top players use older frames not just because they are used to them, but because they have superior feel due to higher quality materials that were used to build them.


If you find any racquet out there you feel is an improvement over the revelation please let me know though, as I would like to try.
 
go the tw learning center theyll tell you how to find your grip size. the grip size is simply the circumference of the grip in inches, just take a narrow piece of paper and wrap it around the grip of your racquet and mark the end and then measure it.

wow youre pretty smart to see through all the racquet company gimicks so quickly, it takes most people a while to see that.
 
Thanks everyone for helping me find my racquet!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've been playing great!!!!!!!


sorry movdqa, i forgot to tell you that you should buy that 5/8 from the other guy.

anyone waiting for an update on my lead application to the O3 Silver I am going to update but haven't had a chance to re-apply the lead tape and hit with it because I'm so excited about hitting with the Revelation tour pro again!!!!


plus it's been raining alot, and I haven't foudn anyone who wants to go half on indoor court time yet, but I will update the 03 leadtape thread eventually.
 
AgassisGoneEndOfAnEra :( said:
Thanks everyone for helping me find my racquet!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've been playing great!!!!!!!


sorry movdqa, i forgot to tell you that you should buy that 5/8 from the other guy.

anyone waiting for an update on my lead application to the O3 Silver I am going to update but haven't had a chance to re-apply the lead tape and hit with it because I'm so excited about hitting with the Revelation tour pro again!!!!


plus it's been raining alot, and I haven't foudn anyone who wants to go half on indoor court time yet, but I will update the 03 leadtape thread eventually.
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I'm just back from vacation but was thinking about asking about the 5/8ths racquet. I'll put it on my todo list to work on it. Glad you're happy with the racquet now.

I started playing indoors over a month ago. I keep a membership at the local
YMCA and they have no court charges but I use the place all-year-round.
 
I didn't hear back from the guy with the 4 5/8s so I just ordered a few sleeves,
a grip and overgrip from TW and will mod the 4 1/4 to 4 1/2. I picked a leather
grip and a thick Wilson overgrip which should get it close to what I'm using
now.

I may upgrade to something newer some day but I'm comfortable with what I have for now.
 
I think Dunlop is certainly trying to lower their costs with their current offerings.

One of the defining characteristics of the Revelation series was the ISIS handle. I still use my Revelation Select Pros when my arm hurts, because the suspension handles were one of the few marketing gimmicks that actually worked. I'm starting to think the M-Fil 300 itself is the reason for the arm pain, and am considering playing with the Revelations full-time.

Given that the only criticism I've seen of Dunlop's modern offerings is that they're harsh on off-center hits, it'd be nice if ISIS was still an integral part of their players racquets and not something used only on their high-dollar "player improvement" frames.
 
The bundle arrived from Tennis-Warehouse a few days ago and I put it on the 4 1/4 racquet today. I used two full-size shrink-wrap grip thickeners with a hair dryer. I took a while to get them to shrink. I'd guess that a heat gun is far more efficient. But it worked more or less. Then I put on a Babolet Leather Grip as the folks here said that they were pretty thick. And then a Wilson Comfy overgrip and I think that the handle feels as large as my other racquets now.

The only difference now is the weight. The weight with the shrink-wraps is 12
ounces even. The grip package said that it is 0.85 ounce. I'm not sure what the overgrip weighs. But I'll toss it on the scale before leaving to see what it adds.
I also tossed in some bits of rubber inside the handle and I'm going to try
hitting a few with it tonight. It's about 3 ounces lighter than my regular racquet
so I expect a difference but I want to get an idea what a lighter version plays
like. I also don't have any lead tape on the head at this time as my tape is at
home. This will be my backup/spare racquet. To get it up to the weight that I
like, I'll need to add something fairly heavy to it that will fit inside the handle.

There is less space to work with in this one than there was in the 4 5/8 model.
 
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