Looking for serve advice

[Justjake1027]

Hello again TTW

Im trying to learn how to add more topspin to my serve for better consistency & slowly work my way into learning a kick serve.

Currently I’m doing a 1st serve toss that’s not very far into the court - I feel like I can get more topspin that way since Im swinging up more than out? Maybe I have the wrong idea here.

let me know your thoughts & opinions - Thanks!

Tennis serves

 

[pencilcheck]

Don't worry about topspin/kick just yet. Focus on contact point, you don't want all your serves to be slow and become an easy target practice for your opponent.
I would recommend you focus on the idea of placement without spin, see how much you can get away and still land in without too much spin. Once you get that, then think about spin.

a couple feedback
1. have your contact be above your head not in front of your head, right now you are still contacting in front of your head
2. move your entire body into the court more, you are almost falling backwards in your serve
3. that also brings me to the toss, your toss is blocking your serve motion, try to toss slightly away so you can go into instead of being blocked.

 

[Friedman Whip]

Wow. In my not so humble opinion you have a great looking serve. I think most people would say you already have a very fine 'kick' serve. There are two interpretations of what a kick serve is. Some say that a kick serve is one that has a good bit of topspin so that the ball has some good jump up action after it bounces. Others say a kick serve is one that has a lot of topspin but also some spin that will make the ball not only jump up but also from left to right after the bounce (assuming we are talking about RHs here). Also called American Twist serve.

I think your toss is just right. To get the topspin you're now getting you have to stay back. I don't see how leaping into the court would help. I think the main thing you could do to add more topspin would be to rotate your grip a bit more toward an eastern backhand grip. Knowing that even a small grip change would foul things up at first before things get right again.

 

[Funbun]

All of those serves were slice serves.

If you want a kick serve:
Make contact with the ball more to your left by tossing it a bit to your left. You are currently making contact with the ball either above your head (acceptable) or to the right (will end up in a slice).
Also, you open up to the court too soon; keep your torso sideways at contact. Tossing to the left makes this easier.

Those are some great slice serves tho.

 

[xFullCourtTenniSx]

Your general setup is pretty good

If you want topspin, the toss needs to be further to the left, where contact will be made over your head.

The racket is too vertical at contact. To fix this, you need to move your toss to the left and to make the angle between the racket and your wrist to be closer to 90 degrees (it'll be larger than 90, but try to overcorrect and you will end up somewhere in the middle, which is what you want). Think of relaxing your wrist during the swing and making contact lower, that helps as well. The type of spin you can generate typically is in the same direction as the cross strings, since the mains are what generate spin.

The wrist action seems very manufactured. Again, this works against you. A few more mph in the racket head speed will give you more spin, but the type of spin won't be correct. Even then, you can get more racket head speed if everything is loose and relaxed anyway.

The swing path is up and (mostly) along the baseline.

Rather than getting more topspin on a first serve, it's better to just learn to hit a good slice serve.

 

[LeeD]

Swing faster.
Slow the ball by adding spin.
Grip towards backhand.
Toss so ball lands at the back of your head, right at baseline.
Slow ball speed down to 80 mphñ but do it by swinging faster for spin.
Aim 18" higher than net.

 

[Curious]

Great serve motion.

 

[Pumpkin]

Ball toss needs to be in line with your head and a bit out in front for a kick serve. If you can arch your back a lot, the toss can then be a bit left of your head.

Have to focus on brushing up on the ball. You were snapping through those serves , which is more of a flat serve.

 

[eah123]

You have a very good advanced service motion. Serves from the ad side are good kick serves. Serves from the deuce side are top-slice serves. I think they are good for second serves as well as can be used as first serves to mix it up.

I think if you want to hit even more kick from the ad side, you need to focus more on facing sideways to keep yourself from pronating too early, and aiming higher over the net. However, your current serve is good enough to play up to 5.0 tennis so I would just practice your serves as they are without altering them too much.