Lord Ivanisevic makes another appearance, advises Djokovic to take a two year break

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

The first Croat to win a Grand Slam is a well known big fan of Novak Djokovic. The legendary Goran, in his own style, advised Novak to take a break from tennis for two years to make it more interesting.

The GS record will not be surpassed, it will be "ripped apart" - Goran at his peak

"I can't see who can beat him. He has become boring, nobody dominated tennis like this. He can only lose to himself, if he clones himself. I advised him to go on a cruise for two years and when he returns, he would be first again. I expect him to win Roland Garros and surpass Federer in terms of Grand Slam titles. Did I say surpass - if Novak remains healthy, he will "rip it apart"" - Goran commented in his style for the Croatian paper jutarnji.hr

Ivanisevic believes his player Marin Cilic can still improve a lot.
"Until now he was aggressive, but now I want to see him ultra-aggressive. Because, the way he plays at Roland Garros, he will continue that way on grass, and later on hard courts. At the last tournaments he was by far the worst performer on break points, he must correct that immediately" said the Croatian ace.

Goran never disappoints, no?

 

[FreeBird]

GOAT.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Had Goran had Novak's mental strength, Pete might not be the grass (co-)GOAT now, heh.

 

[Emperor of Belgrade]

I wish he spoke more often.

 

[nolefam_2024]

LOL. That's very nice to hear though.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Goran is looking to Novak-proof tennis. Great trolling.

Go on a cruise for two years.

 

[VexlanderPrime]

I'm less bullish than Goran who seems to view Djoker as immune to the effects of aging. I still think Djoker finishes with 15 slams. He'll have a non-slam argument for GOAT if he gets 15 considering his WTFs, masters, windows of suffocating dominance, and peak level of play. But Fed will probably retain the slam record and his own incredibly strong GOAT argument.

Basically I forecast all of us ******** at each other long after they both retire. The future of TTW is bleak lol.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

I'm less bullish than Goran who seems to view Djoker as immune to the effects of aging. I still think Djoker finishes with 15 slams. He'll have a non-slam argument for GOAT if he gets 15 considering his WTFs, masters, windows of suffocating dominance, and peak level of play. But Fed will probably retain the slam record and his own incredibly strong GOAT argument.

Basically I forecast all of us ******** at each other long after they both retire. The future of TTW is bleak lol.

Maybe there is a fountain of youth on that two year long cruise.

 

[metsman]

Had Goran had Novak's mental strength, Pete might not be the grass (co-)GOAT now, heh.

That's a very funny joke

 

[VexlanderPrime]

Maybe there is a fountain of youth on that two year long cruise.

I'll say this: if Djoker ages like David Ferrer, anything is possible.

But I think Ferrer is an outlier.

 

[nolefam_2024]

I'll say this: if Djoker ages like David Ferrer, anything is possible.

But I think Ferrer is an outlier.

Djokovic is outlier as well. He looks almost as he looked 4/5 years ago.

 

[VexlanderPrime]

Djokovic is outlier as well. He looks almost as he looked 4/5 years ago.

I dunno, Ferrer has held up into his age 32, 33 season without a decline - there's an argument he improved. Fed, in contrast, has aged "well" but not THAT well. Rafa, in dramatic contrast has seen a significant decline at 28+. Djoker's legacy will be determined by where he falls amongst the three in terms of aging / sustaining his level to 33/34.

 

[Djokovic2011]

Maybe there is a fountain of youth on that two year long cruise.

Perhaps it's the same one Federer's been drinking out of.

 

[NatF]

I don't like Goran anymore.

 

[Fedinkum]

Never disappointed. We need a Goran player now to make the tour interestING.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

I'll say this: if Djoker ages like David Ferrer, anything is possible.

So maybe, Djokovic doesn't need The Guru to teach him, but he needs Ferrer instead?
@Krish872007 @nowhereman

 

[Noelan]

I don't like Goran anymore.

Never liked Goran , as a player , nor my perception of his personality

 

[swordtennis]

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

That's a very funny joke

Whyever? Goran turns mentally strong = one (most likely) fewer Wimbledon title for Pete = Fed is the grass GOAT

 

[La Grande]

delete, misread the post

 

[RF-18]

I don't like Goran anymore.

of course

 

[RF-18]

Why? (I don't know much about him, apart from his Wimbledon win and him coaching Cilic)

He was joking. I know him

 

[Deleted member 307496]

I wonder how much Goran was paid for this statement..

 

[metsman]

Whyever? Goran turns mentally strong = one (most likely) fewer Wimbledon title for Pete = Fed is the grass GOAT

Doubt it...Goran wasn't going to beat Pete at his own game at Wimby. Even if he were more mentally strong Pete would still find a way to win in the end I think as he did in 95 and 98.

 

[RF-18]

I wonder how much Goran was paid for this statement..

Yea all of them get paid when talking about djokovic

 

[Deleted member 307496]

of course

You don't like Safin, do you? Maybe because he actually acknowledges today is a weak era.

 

[Deleted member 307496]

Yea all of them get paid when talking about djokovic

Why wouldn't they? You think they're going to speak their mind for free?

 

[RF-18]

You don't like Safin, do you? Maybe because he actually acknowledges today is a weak era.

I have no problem. I'd disagree with it if he ever said it though, I don't know if he has even said it.

Why wouldn't they? You think they're going to speak their mind for free?

I don't think they get paid to say what someone else wants. Maybe he gets paid for the interview or some exclusive interview but what he says is his words not the moneys.

 

[Deleted member 307496]

I have no problem. I'd disagree with it if he ever said it though, I don't know if he has even said it.

Oh boy, well, he's said it.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/maybe-safin-is-right.547406/

I don't think they get paid to say what someone else wants. Maybe he gets paid for the interview or some exclusive interview but what he says is his words not the moneys.

I think they go hand in hand. What's the point of pumping Fed up when he will be gone in a few years anyway? These guys have to look out for their sport. It's completely logical.

 

[nowhereman]

So maybe, Djokovic doesn't need The Guru to teach him, but he needs Ferrer instead?
@Krish872007 @nowhereman

Yes, Ferrer could be a good substitute, but who taught Ferrer in the first place? The Guru of course. You can try whatever alternative you want, but Monfils is just irreplaceable as a teacher.

 

[RF-18]

Oh boy, well, he's said it.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/maybe-safin-is-right.547406/




I think they go hand in hand. What's the point of pumping Fed up when he will be gone in a few years anyway? These guys have to look out for their sport. It's completely logical.

I'd like to know what Safin exactly said and a proper link, you are not a source.

Ivan said the most obvious things, that Djokovic is dominating tennis right now (wich he is), he even said he is boring. He also questioned who will stop him. I don't see what he said that was so bold, maybe that he will pass Rogers slam count but what does that have to do with getting paid for saying it. You are a delusional bloke seriously.

 

[Deleted member 307496]

I'd like to know what Safin exactly said and a proper link, you are not a source.

I'm not your slave, if you want to read it go find it yourself. Obviously if it were fake I'd have been called out for it in that thread.

Ivan said the most obvious things, that Djokovic is dominating tennis right now (wich he is), he even said he is boring. He also questioned who will stop him. I don't see what he said that was so bold, maybe that he will pass Rogers slam count but what does that have to do with getting paid for saying it. You are a delusional bloke seriously.

He said he's going to rip it apart. 11 slams and nearly 30 years old and we're to believe he's going to go onto win 20+ slams.

You wanna see real delusion? Read my signature.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Okay, let's put some perspective here.

Players are not able to hang with Djokovic even FOR A SET.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Doubt it...Goran wasn't going to beat Pete at his own game at Wimby. Even if he were more mentally strong Pete would still find a way to win in the end I think as he did in 95 and 98.

Wasn't it a battle of servers, though? Can't do anything if your opponent serves great aces again and again, so here's a tiebreak despite superior baseline game, and in the tiebreak of servers whoever starts missing first serves first will lose, and that depends on clutchness, since I understand Ivanisevic's serve was just as great technically as Sampras', only the hand was different.

 

[RF-18]

I'm not your slave, if you want to read it go find it yourself. Obviously if it were fake I'd have been called out for it in that thread.


He said he's going to rip it apart. 11 slams and nearly 30 years old and we're to believe he's going to go onto win 20+ slams.

You wanna see real delusion? Read my signature.

If you claim something you better back it up. I'm not the one who should find the link, you brought it up, so show me exactly what he said. I don't trust you. Especially now when you tell me to go look myself lmao.

I'm not the one going around the forum talking about how a player is a weak era champ and says all sorts of stuff to put him down. Your existence here right now is only about Djokovic, wich is ironic as you hate the guy.

 

[Deleted member 307496]

If you claim something you better back it up. I'm not the one who should find the link, you brought it up, so show me exactly what he said. I don't trust you. Especially now when you tell me to go look myself lmao.

Really, using Google isn't that hard.

http://www.tennisnow.com/Blogs/NET-...ch-Easier-to-Win-Grand-Slams-Now-than-it.aspx

"On the subject of world No. 1 Novak Djokovic, Safin admits that he’s surprised that the Serb has been able to amass so many Grand Slam trophies. “You could see that he is a talented player, and he will become a good player but I didn’t expect that he would win ten Grand Slams,” Safin said of the World’s most dominant player at the moment. “But like I said, right now, it’s a little bit easier to win a Grand Slam now, than back then. But you could see that he would become a good player, because he has all the shots, he is focused, he is serious and the way he was practicing, we knew that he will pass some years and he will become Top-10. But he surprised everybody.”

I'm not the one going around the forum talking about how a player is a weak era champ and says all sorts of stuff to put him down. The delusion is high in you.

Truth hurts, does it not?

 

[kalpab]

Safin would destroy Djokovic everywhere - in fact he did! I will take Safin's words.

Marat Safin vs. Novak Djokovic H2H

 

[RF-18]

Really, using Google isn't that hard.

http://www.tennisnow.com/Blogs/NET-...ch-Easier-to-Win-Grand-Slams-Now-than-it.aspx

"On the subject of world No. 1 Novak Djokovic, Safin admits that he’s surprised that the Serb has been able to amass so many Grand Slam trophies. “You could see that he is a talented player, and he will become a good player but I didn’t expect that he would win ten Grand Slams,” Safin said of the World’s most dominant player at the moment. “But like I said, right now, it’s a little bit easier to win a Grand Slam now, than back then. But you could see that he would become a good player, because he has all the shots, he is focused, he is serious and the way he was practicing, we knew that he will pass some years and he will become Top-10. But he surprised everybody.”


Truth hurts, does it not?

Ultimate troll - sabratha

 

[VexlanderPrime]

I'm not your slave, if you want to read it go find it yourself. Obviously if it were fake I'd have been called out for it in that thread.


He said he's going to rip it apart. 11 slams and nearly 30 years old and we're to believe he's going to go onto win 20+ slams.

You wanna see real delusion? Read my signature.

In fairness the statement is only obv wrong as to RG. You could argue the rest. Tho Rafa fans would have 2013 to cite against it.

On the Safin thing, his talent was never anywhere near ND's level so he's not really equipped to make any evaluations of how easy it is for a patently superior player to win slams. Now if Fed or Rafa came out and said the same thing, I'd listen.

 

[Djokovic2011]

Ultimate troll - sabratha

Don't be too hard on him - the past 18 months haven't been easy for Saby.

 

[Deleted member 307496]

In fairness the statement is only obv wrong as to RG. You could argue the rest. Tho Rafa fans would have 2013 to cite against it.

On the Safin thing, his talent was never anywhere near ND's level so he's not really equipped to make any evaluations of how easy it is for a patently superior player to win slams. Now if Fed or Rafa came out and said the same thing, I'd listen.

But yet you act like Goran's opinion came from God's mouth himself. Why is that? He's less 'qualified' than Safin after all.

 

[metsman]

In fairness the statement is only obv wrong as to RG. You could argue the rest. Tho Rafa fans would have 2013 to cite against it.

On the Safin thing, his talent was never anywhere near ND's level so he's not really equipped to make any evaluations of how easy it is for a patently superior player to win slams. Now if Fed or Rafa came out and said the same thing, I'd listen.

lmao...how many slams you win determine talent?

 

[La Grande]

He was joking. I know him

Yeah, stupid me. Realized, fed fan + statement that his record will be ripped apart = I don't like him (probably jokingly). Didn't put em together for some reason

 

[abmk]

Doubt it...Goran wasn't going to beat Pete at his own game at Wimby. Even if he were more mentally strong Pete would still find a way to win in the end I think as he did in 95 and 98.

goran would've taken 1 of those 2 if he were mentally stronger I think.

 

[abmk]

btw which Goran said this : the good one, the bad one or the crazy one ?

 

[MichaelNadal]

Lol even legends of the game are bored with tennis, damn even I wouldn't say 2 years one would do.

 

[swordtennis]

I love that photo of Ivanisevic and Djokovic.
Master and Teacher.
2001 Wimbledon might be my favorite Wimbledon of all time.
Ill argue the final might have been the greatest Wimbledon final of all time.

 

[metsman]

Ill argue the final might have been the greatest Wimbledon final of all time.

good lord....that final was basically who could keep their nerves together and choke least.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

Basically I forecast all of us ******** at each other long after they both retire. The future of TTW is bleak lol.

This is also my forecast.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

TBH Ivo's prediction isn't that crazy.

There's just no-one else at the moment to win stuff - can you really see 35yo Federer or Andy Murray winning slams at the moment?
The simple truth is that Novak is quite likely to continue his dominance.

No way should he take a cruise though, tennis would still be better off with a huge talent on the books than without, I think.