The Jacksonville Jaguars have been sold and once again there is no sign a team is headed for LA (the team is not doing well and it's believed they will move). Can someone explain to me why the second (third?) largest city in the country still has no pro football franchise? Yeah, yeah, I've heard they're into the college teams out there, but that's also true of college basketball, yet LA has not one but two NBA teams (well, one and a half if you're cynical about the Clippers, and who isn't). The NFL is clearly the best run pro league; how has such a large market continued to be left in the dark? Perhaps as with the Dodgers games, they're afraid everyone will leave at halftime to beat the traffic?
Los Angeles and pro football?
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LuckyR
Legend
I can't disagree with the above. The billionaires who own these teams want to have the rabble (fans) build them a brand new stadium that they can brag about to their other billionaire buddies. LA already has a bunch of unused old stadiums and a populace/government who are not as easily fooled as the other large urban areas.
LuckyR
Legend
Sure from a monetary standpoint it makes sense to do whatever it takes to reap that $750 million benefit. But billionaires are a curious lot. Money has a different meaning for them, they aren't all that impressed with low sums like that. It means more to brag that they pulled a fast one on a bunch of idiots.
djNEiGht
Legend
at one time or another, san diego was slated as the top team of several to head to la. also in the talks of teams - vikings, jax, oakland, & rams.
there have been 2 design teams really making noise to design the stadium.
The stadium is expected to be built by 2016 (?) and should a team come here by next year they will play in the colesium for the time being.
there have been 2 design teams really making noise to design the stadium.
The stadium is expected to be built by 2016 (?) and should a team come here by next year they will play in the colesium for the time being.
Slayer_of_Kings
New User
Talk down there is that the Chargers will come back to their original home town.
LuckyR
Legend
The rabble on average? No, not really. The more savvy echelon probably gets a bit more traction in the media there though. The Admin of the city probably has been around the block dealing with slick lawyer presentations than other areas.
As to billionaires and what serves as motivation for folks with more money than they will ever spend in their lives, what is your explanation for the current state of affairs?
I wish that ESPN and the rest of the national media would quit talking about the Jaguars as possible contenders to be the first team to move.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/attendance/_/year/2011
Go look for yourselves... Jacksonville has NEVER been last in the league in attendance. They get a bad rap for having some seats covered and unavailable, but that's just because the stadium is WAY oversized for the market in Jax. Look at the numbers on that link; they speak for themselves.
The new owner said he is committed to bringing Jacksonville a championship, and for now we have no reason to doubt him.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/attendance/_/year/2011
Go look for yourselves... Jacksonville has NEVER been last in the league in attendance. They get a bad rap for having some seats covered and unavailable, but that's just because the stadium is WAY oversized for the market in Jax. Look at the numbers on that link; they speak for themselves.
The new owner said he is committed to bringing Jacksonville a championship, and for now we have no reason to doubt him.
Fifth Set
Professional
To the extent local voters and governments are still nervous, you can probably blame the legacy of Al Davis at least in part. He tortured LA and the SF Bay Area for decades with his BS.
Mind you, I'm not personally bitter about that at all. Davis' mistreatment of Shanahan was pivotal in my favorite team finally winning the Super Bowl.
I think OP's point about the NFL's perspective (or lack thereof) is valid. You would think they would demonstrate more urgency in pushing LA to get a team. It's getting kind of ridiculous.
Mind you, I'm not personally bitter about that at all. Davis' mistreatment of Shanahan was pivotal in my favorite team finally winning the Super Bowl.
I think OP's point about the NFL's perspective (or lack thereof) is valid. You would think they would demonstrate more urgency in pushing LA to get a team. It's getting kind of ridiculous.
hollywood9826
Hall of Fame
LA is gonna get a team soon enough.
And the Jaguars gotta be the least known about team in football. It just seems that nobody cares or notices them.
In 2009 the Jags had all but one home game blackout becuase of not enough attendance. Thenteh team reduced capicty by 10K poeple and started giving away tickets to charity. Doesnt exactly sound like a solid football city to me.
And the Jaguars gotta be the least known about team in football. It just seems that nobody cares or notices them.
In 2009 the Jags had all but one home game blackout becuase of not enough attendance. Thenteh team reduced capicty by 10K poeple and started giving away tickets to charity. Doesnt exactly sound like a solid football city to me.
r2473
G.O.A.T.
Affairs are often complicated
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCxCRI2Qv6U&feature=related
To love is to suffer.
To avoid suffering, one must not love.
But then one suffers from not loving.
Therefore, to love is to suffer.
Not to love is to suffer.
To suffer is to suffer.
To be happy is to love.
To be happy, then, is to suffer, but suffering makes one unhappy.
Therefore, to be unhappy one must love,
or love to suffer,|or suffer from too much happiness...
I hope you're getting this down.
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LuckyR
Legend
I apologize for being obtuse. I believe you put it as: "Can someone explain to me why the second (third?) largest city in the country still has no pro football franchise?" You know, the whole point of the thread. What is your take on the reason?
I raised the question precisely because it made so little sense to me. I think it's a temporary state of affairs, because there is a great deal of money to be made there, perhaps slowed down a bit by the torpid economy, but I'd be surprised if there wasn't a team there sometime this decade.
r2473
G.O.A.T.
I guess everything is temporary......
"Great googly moogly, how do I use that crazy search engine thingy?"
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=last+nfl+team+in+los+angeles
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nfl/news/story?id=6057731
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Kevin T
Hall of Fame
Seventeen years isn't a temporary state of affairs. We've been hearing that the NFL is coming back to LA since they left. Would the NFL like to be back in the LA market? Of course. Is it urgent? Nope. The NFL seems to be doing just fine at the moment. The other big Cali market (Bay Area) will likely see the 49ers and possibly the Raiders (if they agree to share-it's being talked about) move out to Santa Clara.
I really hope the Chargers stay put.
I really hope the Chargers stay put.
LuckyR
Legend
If you use the regular rules of common behavior (motivation to make $750 million being very high), I completely agree with you, it makes no sense. So clearly we have to assume there is a different set of rules (motivators) at play here than what would motivate us, as individuals.
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