Losing tension stringing Multi and Syn Guy off stringer.

pizzadontdie

New User
Due to elbow pain I’ve recently started hybridizing with multi crosses or mains or even using full beds of multi. I always use 2 piece string jobs on my Ezone 98, Blade 98 and sometime a prince phantom 100 (if the elbow really hurts) strung on an old Gamma X-ES electric, constant pull stringer and RacquetTune to measure post string job. With full bed poly, I was usually measuring about 0.5-1.5# lower tension right off the stringer. With multi full bed or even hybrids I’m measuring at 6-8# less than what I set tension, which is usually around 58 for full bed and 48/54 with poly main/multi cross. I’ve made sure RacquetTune has correct string factors, so I don’t think that’s the issue. Does multi stretch so much that it immediately loses tension like that? I’ve ordered a gamma tension calibration tool to see if my tensioning wheel needs tuning, but since my poly comes out fairly close to intended tension, I’m guessing it’s not the issue. I do notice the softer multi has some pullback of about 1/3 inch on the clamps, which is much less noticeable with poly. Kinda at a loss here. Anyone else have similar experience? I’ve searched the threads and can’t seem to find others with this issue.
 

esgee48

G.O.A.T.
Your issue is not the strings, but related to stringing techniques. Ask Admin to move thread to Stringing Techniques Forum.

Make sure all clamp related parts are clean and adjusted properly. Those surfaces need to be cleaned cuz most strings leave residue.

Drawback is bad (you said it) unless you get the clamp back to its original position. Means surfaces are not in solid contact at base or with clamp.

Do a Search on what is considered good techniques. There are similar steps used when doing mains and more steps when doing crosses.

Now when you do your mains, when the string is still being pulled, I assume you just move the clamp and clamp the string. That’s fine for mains. When you do a cross, while it is being pulled, you move that cross up-down-up or down-up to break the friction between main/cross intersections which normally prevents the cross from achieving ref tension. Then you move the clamp to clamp the string. With slick polys, you can somewhat skip the cross movement. You can’t skip this step with any other string type.

HTH

edit Good thing you’re not using a LO.
 

pizzadontdie

New User
I’ve recently disassembled and cleaned the clamps. String's are not slipping as I checked for that, but the drawback could definitely be the culprit. I’m not sure I see a way to tighten anything to stop it though. I’ll try and take a couple pictures of the clamps later and post. Thanks for the help!!
 

pizzadontdie

New User
Your issue is not the strings, but related to stringing techniques. Ask Admin to move thread to Stringing Techniques Forum.

Make sure all clamp related parts are clean and adjusted properly. Those surfaces need to be cleaned cuz most strings leave residue.

Drawback is bad (you said it) unless you get the clamp back to its original position. Means surfaces are not in solid contact at base or with clamp.

Do a Search on what is considered good techniques. There are similar steps used when doing mains and more steps when doing crosses.

Now when you do your mains, when the string is still being pulled, I assume you just move the clamp and clamp the string. That’s fine for mains. When you do a cross, while it is being pulled, you move that cross up-down-up or down-up to break the friction between main/cross intersections which normally prevents the cross from achieving ref tension. Then you move the clamp to clamp the string. With slick polys, you can somewhat skip the cross movement. You can’t skip this step with any other string type.

HTH

edit Good thing you’re not using a LO.
I think I get what you’re saying. I always pull the cross closest to previous before I pull tension, but I should then be straightening even more after I pull tension, but before I clamp?
 

pizzadontdie

New User
Your issue is not the strings, but related to stringing techniques. Ask Admin to move thread to Stringing Techniques Forum.

Make sure all clamp related parts are clean and adjusted properly. Those surfaces need to be cleaned cuz most strings leave residue.

Drawback is bad (you said it) unless you get the clamp back to its original position. Means surfaces are not in solid contact at base or with clamp.

Do a Search on what is considered good techniques. There are similar steps used when doing mains and more steps when doing crosses.

Now when you do your mains, when the string is still being pulled, I assume you just move the clamp and clamp the string. That’s fine for mains. When you do a cross, while it is being pulled, you move that cross up-down-up or down-up to break the friction between main/cross intersections which normally prevents the cross from achieving ref tension. Then you move the clamp to clamp the string. With slick polys, you can somewhat skip the cross movement. You can’t skip this step with any other string type.

HTH

edit Good thing you’re not using a LO.
I think I get what you’re saying. I always pull the cross closest to previous before I pull tension, but I should then be straightening even more after I pull tension, but before I clamp? I did watch what felt like hundreds of hours of stringing on YouTube before I started myself, but don’t remember seeing anyone do that. Not saying they don’t, I probably just missed it.
 

pizzadontdie

New User
Your issue is not the strings, but related to stringing techniques. Ask Admin to move thread to Stringing Techniques Forum.

Make sure all clamp related parts are clean and adjusted properly. Those surfaces need to be cleaned cuz most strings leave residue.

Drawback is bad (you said it) unless you get the clamp back to its original position. Means surfaces are not in solid contact at base or with clamp.

Do a Search on what is considered good techniques. There are similar steps used when doing mains and more steps when doing crosses.

Now when you do your mains, when the string is still being pulled, I assume you just move the clamp and clamp the string. That’s fine for mains. When you do a cross, while it is being pulled, you move that cross up-down-up or down-up to break the friction between main/cross intersections which normally prevents the cross from achieving ref tension. Then you move the clamp to clamp the string. With slick polys, you can somewhat skip the cross movement. You can’t skip this step with any other string type.

HTH

edit Good thing you’re not using a LO.
Ok, just watched some more cross vids and I totally get it now. Thanks again.
 
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