Loss of '20 ITA/NCAA tennis season affects 20/21 too

jcgatennismom

Professional
It will be interesting to see how ITA decides Kickoff for 20/21-will they use current rankings or allow 10 wins?. Will the top 75 mean anything at this point? Also if All American qualifiers and MD selections will be based on this year's results, the guys who didnt play in the fall due to Futures are underranked. The Oracle fall tourney in Malibu has a spot for the best player in each conference (though the top guys in Power conferences dont always play and are replaced with ITA ranked WCs)-will be tricky to decide that since many conferences had not even started conference play-maybe they will use ITA national or regional ranking, UTR instead. Great tourney for the MM guys to have a shot to play top players from P5, and there are always some upsets. So the ramifications go beyond the lost May championships and the lost pro WCs that could have been earned at that tourney...Of course if tennis travel budgets are cut due to loss of revenue from basketball, some of these tourneys could be cut or streamlined. All American '19 had close to 500 men including preQs-less women. Not sure they needed that many slots...

20/21 and 21/22 recruiting is affected too as SAT/ACT, TOEFL testing has been cancelled. Junior spring tennis-USTA, ITF and high school-is cancelled or suspended too. Probably more recruits than usual will start in January 21 rather than September 20. With only 4.5 scholarships, tennis players-especially the US ones, need the merit $ too. If there are any winners in this sad situation, it is the recruits who earned high scores on tests and top results in tourneys last fall/early winter.

One bright spot in this dark cloud is that players who would be off playing Futures and Challengers are now back at their home bases and available to hit with players home from college so there will be some tennis played-maybe not on university courts but on club,academy, or neighborhood courts. No problem social distancing playing tennis...just no touching faces after picking up balls...
 
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fireForehand

New User
It will be interesting to see how ITA decides Kickoff for 20/21-will they use current rankings or allow 10 wins?. Will the top 75 mean anything at this point? Also if All American qualifiers and MD selections will be based on this year's results, the guys who didnt play in the fall due to Futures are underranked. The Oracle fall tourney in Malibu has a spot for the best player in each conference (though the top guys in Power conferences dont always play and are replaced with ITA ranked WCs)-will be tricky to decide that since many conferences had not even started conference play-maybe they will use ITA national or regional ranking, UTR instead. Great tourney for the MM guys to have a shot to play top players from P5, and there are always some upsets. So the ramifications go beyond the lost May championships and the lost pro WCs that could have been earned at that tourney...Of course if tennis travel budgets are cut due to loss of revenue from basketball, some of these tourneys could be cut or streamlined. All American '19 had close to 500 men including preQs-less women. Not sure they needed that many slots...

20/21 and 21/22 recruiting is affected too as SAT/ACT, TOEFL testing has been cancelled. Junior spring tennis-USTA, ITF and high school-is cancelled or suspended too. Probably more recruits than usual will start in January 21 rather than September 20. With only 4.5 scholarships, tennis players-especially the US ones, need the merit $ too. If there are any winners in this sad situation, it is the recruits who earned high scores on tests and top results in tourneys last fall/early winter.

One bright spot in this dark cloud is that players who would be off playing Futures and Challengers are now back at their home bases and available to hit with players home from college so there will be some tennis played-maybe not on university courts but on club,academy, or neighborhood courts. No problem social distancing playing tennis...just no touching faces after picking up balls...
Nothing gets [mention]jcgatennismom [/mention] more fired up
than challenger players hitting with her kids


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JLyon

Hall of Fame
What I hear from a local coach is all players this year in tennis are getting essentially a red shirt. Recruiting for 20-21 remains and sounds like teams will be able to carry over the scholarships of the seniors and have above the 8/4.5 scholarship limits. That is assuming players even return as many appear to be packing up and heading home, will they return next year?
 

jcgatennismom

Professional
What I hear from a local coach is all players this year in tennis are getting essentially a red shirt. Recruiting for 20-21 remains and sounds like teams will be able to carry over the scholarships of the seniors and have above the 8/4.5 scholarship limits. That is assuming players even return as many appear to be packing up and heading home, will they return next year?
Most colleges wont have budget for seniors and freshmen-maybe the Power 5s but maybe not even them with loss of basketball revenue. Students have to take 12 hours a semester to play-if they already graduated and are not going to grad school, seniors are done. Few US players are on full scholarships-many on merit too- so they cant afford to pay to play if they already have degree again unless they really want to go to grad school and dont have jobs
 
What I hear from a local coach is all players this year in tennis are getting essentially a red shirt. Recruiting for 20-21 remains and sounds like teams will be able to carry over the scholarships of the seniors and have above the 8/4.5 scholarship limits. That is assuming players even return as many appear to be packing up and heading home, will they return next year?
Untrue, at least for D1. Based on the guidance set forth by the NCAA this past week, tennis is excluded as it isn't considered to be a spring sport. However, there are at least 3 proposals that have been submitted to argue for inclusion of tennis/golf/rowing/track.
 

silentkman

Professional
It will be interesting to see how ITA decides Kickoff for 20/21-will they use current rankings or allow 10 wins?. Will the top 75 mean anything at this point? Also if All American qualifiers and MD selections will be based on this year's results, the guys who didnt play in the fall due to Futures are underranked. The Oracle fall tourney in Malibu has a spot for the best player in each conference (though the top guys in Power conferences dont always play and are replaced with ITA ranked WCs)-will be tricky to decide that since many conferences had not even started conference play-maybe they will use ITA national or regional ranking, UTR instead. Great tourney for the MM guys to have a shot to play top players from P5, and there are always some upsets. So the ramifications go beyond the lost May championships and the lost pro WCs that could have been earned at that tourney...Of course if tennis travel budgets are cut due to loss of revenue from basketball, some of these tourneys could be cut or streamlined. All American '19 had close to 500 men including preQs-less women. Not sure they needed that many slots...

20/21 and 21/22 recruiting is affected too as SAT/ACT, TOEFL testing has been cancelled. Junior spring tennis-USTA, ITF and high school-is cancelled or suspended too. Probably more recruits than usual will start in January 21 rather than September 20. With only 4.5 scholarships, tennis players-especially the US ones, need the merit $ too. If there are any winners in this sad situation, it is the recruits who earned high scores on tests and top results in tourneys last fall/early winter.

One bright spot in this dark cloud is that players who would be off playing Futures and Challengers are now back at their home bases and available to hit with players home from college so there will be some tennis played-maybe not on university courts but on club,academy, or neighborhood courts. No problem social distancing playing tennis...just no touching faces after picking up balls...
in the whole scheme of things,is this really important?
 

JLyon

Hall of Fame
Untrue, at least for D1. Based on the guidance set forth by the NCAA this past week, tennis is excluded as it isn't considered to be a spring sport. However, there are at least 3 proposals that have been submitted to argue for inclusion of tennis/golf/rowing/track.
guess we shall see how all the chips fall in the end. Things changing on a daily basis
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
It will be interesting to see how ITA decides Kickoff for 20/21-will they use current rankings or allow 10 wins?. Will the top 75 mean anything at this point? Also if All American qualifiers and MD selections will be based on this year's results, the guys who didnt play in the fall due to Futures are underranked. The Oracle fall tourney in Malibu has a spot for the best player in each conference (though the top guys in Power conferences dont always play and are replaced with ITA ranked WCs)-will be tricky to decide that since many conferences had not even started conference play-maybe they will use ITA national or regional ranking, UTR instead. Great tourney for the MM guys to have a shot to play top players from P5, and there are always some upsets. So the ramifications go beyond the lost May championships and the lost pro WCs that could have been earned at that tourney...Of course if tennis travel budgets are cut due to loss of revenue from basketball, some of these tourneys could be cut or streamlined. All American '19 had close to 500 men including preQs-less women. Not sure they needed that many slots...

20/21 and 21/22 recruiting is affected too as SAT/ACT, TOEFL testing has been cancelled. Junior spring tennis-USTA, ITF and high school-is cancelled or suspended too. Probably more recruits than usual will start in January 21 rather than September 20. With only 4.5 scholarships, tennis players-especially the US ones, need the merit $ too. If there are any winners in this sad situation, it is the recruits who earned high scores on tests and top results in tourneys last fall/early winter.

One bright spot in this dark cloud is that players who would be off playing Futures and Challengers are now back at their home bases and available to hit with players home from college so there will be some tennis played-maybe not on university courts but on club,academy, or neighborhood courts. No problem social distancing playing tennis...just no touching faces after picking up balls...
all the guys get extra year of eligibility and scholarships, right ?? that is all good for the Cardinal,, next year we will come back with everyone and plus top ATP level guys and we could go undefeated
 

am1899

Hall of Fame
What I hear from a local coach is all players this year in tennis are getting essentially a red shirt. Recruiting for 20-21 remains and sounds like teams will be able to carry over the scholarships of the seniors and have above the 8/4.5 scholarship limits. That is assuming players even return as many appear to be packing up and heading home, will they return next year?
From what I hear this is true of Div 3 - their committee made a quick decision that all spring sport participants (including tennis) are to receive a waiver for this year.

Apparently this is not true of Div 1 at least, who are dragging their feet and claiming, amongst other things, that tennis isn’t a spring sport. Sounds like Div 2 is also in the same or similar camp.
 

andfor

Legend
in the whole scheme of things,is this really important?
Given worldwide circumstances not really, at the same time dwelling on it and sitting on the couch isn't they only thing we can do. The COVID19 pandemic will end and kids will need to have an idea of their education options.

Understanding how the NCAA treats your eligibility status is relevant. Not all athletes completing their 4th/senior year of eligibility graduate, some take 4 1/2 and 5 years.

On another note and not to be too negative, playing tennis with others may not be considered totally safe. I'm not a medical professional, but knowing that the virus can live on surfaces for hours, my guess is tennis balls can carry germs from those who are handling them. The wall and a basket of tennis balls are my tennis buddies for the time being.

Stay strong, stay safe.
 

NoChance

Rookie
I'm doing what andfor is doing. Hitting a few serves, there is a backboard in a neighboring town. We'll all get around to playing one of these days.
 
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