I just ordered a pair yesterday from TW because I loved the Raptors so much. I'll report back here.
I loved the raptors! had the green ones. Did you order your normal size, raptor sizing?
It's been years since I wore raptors and I don't remember what size I wore. What I can tell you is that my normal size is 11.5 and I definitely need a 12 in the Lotto Mirage 100 SPD.
Short.Do they run short or just narrow?
hows the cushioning? Is it a light shoe?They are a little tight in the toe box. The overal width is good. The heel is locked down. The fit me pretty decently. The remind me a little of Vapor 9. Much better than the Vapor X. I’ve played 2 hours in them so far.
It feels light. Has better cushioning than the Raptors to me.hows the cushioning? Is it a light shoe?
Never tried the raptors but I am in the market for a new shoe. Currently using Vapor Xs and stopped using cage 3s because the cushioning was rough. I am a size 11 should I size up a half for this model?It feels light. Has better cushioning than the Raptors to me.
I wanted to try one out but there isn't my size and TWE has a hard time stocking them. By curiosity I tried a size down since the Stratosphere 2 ran an half size bigger than other Lotto shoes do, and the Mirage ended up an half size too small relative to the Stratosphere 2, so no dice.
Little in common. The Stratosphere series is lower to the ground, lighter and the first iteration was also very soft and comfortable. It's not as light as a Vapor/Solution Speed, but lighter than the Raptor IV. The Stratosphere 2 is IMO an improvement over the Stratosphere 1 by virtue of having a stiffer upper that helped a lot with stability. Dunno about the 3 or 4, haven't tried them.@Lukhas. how did you find Statosphere 2 compared to Raptor IV btw?
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I can tell you I have every raptor from the 1st one to the Evo. This one sucks Lotto made the greatest shoe and I was excited to see they were back. I got them and like I said horrible. I compared them to my old ones and not even close. Try the new balance Lav
Would you tell me how comfortable are the new balance lav? How's the cushioning?Rush 3.0 was really nice lighter then 2.5 and a little better fit. I picked the Lav because I have a narrow foot but both nice.
The cushioning of the Lav is more firm than the one in the Rush Pro 3.0 (I have both shoes). It's more firm but more responsive. In the Rush Pro 3.0 it's softer, more flexible but probably less durable. I first ordered the Lav and played about 3 training 4 matchs with it but I found the toe box not enough high for my forefoot (specifically for my big toes), that's why I switched to the Rush Pro 3.0 which has a higher toe box (the top of the shoe and toe guard is higher) and it's better with my own thicker orthopedic insoles.Thanks Andy Miller!
comparing the Diadora BlueShield and the Wilson rush to the NB Lav, which one has the more cushion?
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Yes the Rush Pro 3.0 is true to size. But I heard in the video test of the shoes that one of the TW playtester chose 1/2 size down to fit more snug and avoid some toe jamming issues. Cause despite of the amazing comfort of the shoes you may have some minor toe jam issues.Thank you PierrMBK. Yes it helped!!! I'm trying to choose the most comfortable shoes out there so I'm narrowing it down based on your feedback. Softer for me is definitely important at this point.
Do the Wilson rush 3.0 fit true to size? do you know if they are better in cushioning than the 2.5?
Sorry for highjacking the thread guys!
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Thank you for comparing them!!!!!Yes the Rush Pro 3.0 is true to size. But I heard in the video test of the shoes that one of the TW playtester chose 1/2 size down to fit more snug and avoid some toe jamming issues. Cause despite of the amazing comfort of the shoes you may have some minor toe jam issues.
After 3 months the support isn't exactly the same cause there is lot of mesh on the upper. So it stretches a bit. I had some toe jamming issues but it's ok, now I use thicker socks and tight my laces more.
I keep using this shoe cause the comfort is just outstanding. Right out of the box it's perfect. I've just ordered the clay version of the shoes in addition to my all court version to play on clay in summer and to play Padel outdoor also. The support looks better in the forefoot in the clay version as the upper is a bit different, less mesh (to avoid clay to come into the shoes).
I also used my Rush Pro 3.0 to play basketball outdoor one time and it was perfect, I felt good. In the gym also it's nice. Nice shoes but with my use I think the durability won't last unfortunately. Too bad if you compare it to the Gel Res 7 for example.
Otherwise I didn't have the Rush Pro 2.5 so I can't compare but I saw tests last year and the 2.5 looked more bulky and heavy. Apparently they improved the shoes a lot this year with the 3.0.
WHY does a shoe company with a great shoe make the idiotic mistake of stopping that particular shoe? If it sells and so many people enjoy it what business sense does it make to discontinue it? I even wrote Lotto several emails asking them to please bring the Raptor Ultra IV Speed shoes back out for us to buy. Nothing back from them.
I agree sales of the new raptors must suck. The Evo Raptor was also terrible. I will just spend my money elsewhere their loss. I love the Lav so I am very happy.
I had to stop wearing them as they irritated my patella tendon in my left knee. After a few weeks with my Vapor 9.5 the pain finally went away.Any updated reviews on this shoe?
I had to stop wearing them as they irritated my patella tendon in my left knee. After a few weeks with my Vapor 9.5 the pain finally went away.
No, other shoes have caused this problem.Any other shows that cause the same problem?
So far it doesn’t sound that this shoe can replace Raptor
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I had to stop wearing them as they irritated my patella tendon in my left knee. After a few weeks with my Vapor 9.5 the pain finally went away.
That's unfortunate. I ended up buying diadora blueshield fly 2s. The cushioning is amazing.
i think Diadora is going to be my favorite brand instead of Lotto.
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