Low, low tensions. 30lbs feels great. 20lbs pretty good, too

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  1. grip

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    I'm currently playing with 4 Prince Warrior 100 ESP frames (14/16). 2 sticks are strung at 46/42 (revolve spin 16/ Volk cyclone 16) and the others are at 42/38. The launch angle is higher but I can instinctively keep the ball lower if someone comes to net. The higher launch angle actually bothers some players as it's not easy hitting higher arching balls with nasty topspin earlier. What I have discovered is that I can't be lazy with my footwork and really need to commit to every shot or the balls can fly long. I get longer string life by stringing lower and it's more comfortable on the arm. Volleys took a little time to get used to. It's winter here in Asia right now so I might have to reassess string tension when the temp goes up in the spring. I play on clay at the 5.0 level.
     
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  2. apriliano

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    Today I'm going to try focus Hex 1'18 @ 18/15 @ speed pro

    Can't wait
     
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  3. 2ndServe

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    18x20 prince rebel 95 the 1st version with the spider graphics. How low should I go, this 56lbs kevlar + the dense pattern and small head is awful for my arm. Oh I also hate stringing 18x20 on a 95. I heard some like the string hole grommets at 3 and 9 and the port grommets on the top and bottom. Any recommendations.
     
  4. Attila_the_gorilla

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    Use the most powerful strings you can afford (with slippery crosses), and at lower tensions. You'll need to experiment how low you're comfortable.
    If were you, I'd also use a more powerful racket. That one is too much work.
     
  5. 2ndServe

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    Haha no doubt, this racket is heavy, small and dense. I'm hoping the low tension will work, I've got 4 or 5 them so I'm not exactly looking forward to buying 4 new rackets, but it may come to that.
     
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    And very flexible, which makes it very hard to defend with! Too little power.
     
  7. Harry_Wild

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    Will try 35 lbs. at next stringing from 44 lbs currently! 97" Wilson Ultra Tour!
     
  8. HunterST

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    So, this thread has become huge and unmanageable, but it seems like the excitement about very low tensions has waned over the life of thread. Originally, people said tensions around 30 gave more spin, equal power, and just as much if not more control.

    It seems like we've gone back to the more conventional wisdom that the very low tension does lessen control but offers good power and spin.

    How have your views on these types of tensions changed? Anyone know if Chris ultimately stuck with a very low tension like 30 lbs, or did he end up back more in the low 50s?
     
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  9. purdyd

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    So I cut my low tension poly out and put back in gut/poly (proportional stringing this time).

    I got a lot of spin but in the end, the gut poly gave me a better feel (and is a touch easier on the arm) and enough spin. I didn't really feel I suffered in control.

    But if this makes sense, the low tension poly would hit higher and with lots of spin but if I didn't get over the top enough to get that spin, it would fly. Also, my normal forehand would not land as deep so I would have to swing harder again, leading to some flyers. I didn't get a crisp volley either.

    But, I am glad I tried and and I think it is worth a try for anyone who really likes the poly feel and has the grooved modern swing to take advantage of it.
     
  10. RyanRF

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    My experiments got down to the 30s. I found that low tension improves power, spin, and comfort.. but at the cost of control. I also found that the longer the strings sat on the racquet, the worse the control got. When first strung at 35 or 40 everything was working well, but after a few hours of play my shots would go long.

    Yes I know this happens with all string/tension configurations, but it just seemed more dramatic when using low tensions. If I was willing to restring weekly then I'd probably have stuck with it.

    Today I'm back to playing at higher tensions, though lower than where I started. I'm using full poly in the low 50s. Playing 3-4 days a week. Restringing every 3 weeks or so.
     
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  11. Karma Tennis

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    Consider a string bed. The more movement there is in a string bed, the greater the variation in actual ball contact on the bed, the greater the variation in the speed, direction and spin level the ball has when it leaves the string bed. "Simple physics" as they say.

    Consider a baseball bat or a cricket bat. When a ball makes contact at the same place on the bat, it will usually leave the bat in the same way.

    The tighter the string bed, the more it behaves like a bat.

    I could never understand the ELT philosophy. I tried it on several occasions in several different environments, but the results were always as expected, always as explained by the Physics.

    For me, the solution to arm related issues is not ELT Poly string beds. It is softer tennis racquets and / or more arm friendly string types like NG and Multi.

    As always, YMMV !
     
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  12. Shaolin

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    I asked Chris here...

    https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/string-tension-question-for-chris.605797/
     
  13. Chad Parsons

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    I strung my stick at 30lbs and will be checking it out tomorrow, full bed Cyclone 18g. I have been playing around 60 the past few months. I checked my notes on low tension test a while back and liked it. With my improved ball striking and fundamentals with plenty of practice the past 4-6 months, I look forward to the current tryout. Will report back.
     
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  14. Chad Parsons

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    My klipper stringer only goes down to 20 pounds, so it looks like anything lower than 25 pounds or so would be a significant challenge to execute
     
  15. Karma Tennis

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    You can pull the string by hand and you will easily be able to tension below 20lbs. Just be sure that the pulls are consistent.
     
  16. Chad Parsons

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    Update on my practice session with 30 lbs. today - full bed Cyclone 18g. LOVED IT. Best volleys I have hit in a while, quality depth and touch with zero effort, regardless of groundstroke power coming my way. Did not notice any degradation of accuracy on groundstrokes, again more easy power/spin with no impact on arm. Didn't serve any as I am recovering from ankle injury and serve bend is one of the more difficult moves still on my ankle. Big difference from even the mid-40s tension I tried the last string job from a week or two ago. Cannot see goes back to the 50s or 60s, or even the 40s with how great this feels.

    My typical hybrid is cyclone mains with Gosen on the crosses, but from all the reading in this thread it sounded like full poly on low tension stringing is the way to go. Anyone go super low with Gosen, a soft cross string? I don't think it would make it any more arm-friendly and if anything make it feel even more low tension, even if pre-stretching.
     
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  17. Gamechanger

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    Shoud i let my Students play with very low Tensions ( for a while) to learn Topspin?

    On Top with a shaped Poly, in a Racket with a lower Swingweight? What do you think? Any Knowledge?
     
  18. Chad Parsons

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    I don't see an issue with low tension for a player learning the game. The main thing I would focus on with beginners is the basics - solid contact, proper technique, not doing too much on volleys, etc.
     

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