Lower Back soreness/pain

HLM2

Rookie
After hitting for a long time a few days ago, I noticed my lower back, or the part most would refer to as the "small" of their back, started to hurt. Its not a sharp pain, just a constant soreness thats there. It is hard to make sudden movements such as running after a sharply angled ball, otherwise i can still play fine, sustain rallys etc.
This is the first time I have got this type of problem, no issues previously. Could it be alot of rotation when hitting groundstrokes around the waist area?
How long does this type of pain last? What are the best ways to alleviate it and get it healed fast?
Thanks
 
I was on vacation and hurt my lower back yesterday morning and all the driving and sitting still hasn't helped it much, but I expect it to be better in another day or two. I used to have a lot of back problems when I played tennis every day. Now I just play 2-3 times per week. Taking tonight off from tennis which sucks!!!!!!
 
I put heat on it, let it loosen up. I HATE any kind of painkiller. My back is dodgy from tennis and my job as a mechanic so I have problems frequently. Sometimes it is bad for a week or so, and then it will be good for a month or two. Warm weather helps. If I have to drive a long way to a tournament it locks up sometimes, and when its locked it is almost impossible for me to serve with power and consistency.

Also when I go out drinking, the next day my head will be fine, my stomach will be fine, but I will feel like I was kicked in the small of the back by a horse. Had that goin on today after a tough friday night. Was 30 something degrees on court with 25mph wind gusts and snow flurries. It was impossible to hit off the ground, so we just decided to play. Only thing I could do was S&V I was bending in junk serves and clanking first volleys off the frame. Didn't even finish a set before I went home and lied down in bed and waited for the pain to go away. Should be better for tomorrow.

J
 
I've been recommended ice packs. Now iv e read about both heat or ice pack usage. Do they both work?
 
Sounds like a soft tissue injury, probably a sprain. Rest will help it recover. If you insist on continuing to play, it could take a while to recover, if at all.

Once you pass 25, your back beings to age. The disks start to shrink and tolerances grow tighter, making it easier to injure it. Strengthening the core muscles can help offset some of this, but the aging process is inevitable and can not be avoided no matter how good a shape you are in (see Agassi for an example).

If a few days of rest does not resolve the problem, its time to see a specialist. They can assess whether there is something more serious at work.

Your back has a wonderful built-in injury limitation mechanism known as the back spasm. Push an injured back to far and spasms will lock you up so tight you won't even be able to stand up straight and walk, much less play tennis. So listen to your back and give it a break if its bothering you. Otherwise it will take matters into its own hands. :)

-k-
 
It's probably best to rest with no court time until you can stretch comfortably and apply ice and heat to the area.

I have a bulging disc in my neck and two herniated in the lumbar region of my back and have found weightlifting has greatly helped with the pain as well as preventing injury, if that's not something you already do. :)
 
So ive been using ice packs for 2 days now, and it definetly helps alot. After about 15 minutes of ice it feels fine, but is sore again later. Either way, its definetly alot better and less severe, I can move comfortably and run. Should I continue to use ice? Are ice and heat packs interchangeable?
 
Good to hear you're feeling better!

Someone mentioned earlier about when to use ice and when to use heat...but I've noticed that these days, physical therapists and trainers are really pushing ice as treatment for sore/pulled muscles. If the ice is helping keep to it, I use it myself on my knees frequently. Might want to still rest one more day to be safe and when you get back on the court, take it nice and slow. Warm up well, then stretch out.
 
Yea J011yRoger mentioned, but I cant really pinpoint if mine is stiff or pain, its just hard to match. I think I will stick with the ice for now. Basically, I ice for 15 minutes or so, then the soreness is completely gone, and I stretch. Then, a while later it comes back, only when I move that spot. I will see if I can play tomorrow, we always warm up and stretch before so I might go.
 
Word of caution and question for experts..

HLM, I tore/strained a small muscle in my lower back/upper buttocks by twisting too much on a 2hbh. I was in incredble pain for two days. After two weeks I was better enough to play, or so I thought. i reinjured it and have been in that cycle for ..5 months now. It is stronger but still not 100%. Id say 80%, and healing a lot slower than it did in those initial two weeks. if i was smart i would have taken a month off and I would probably be fine now. I am switching to a 1hbh to avoid this back problem. Its really depressing and I would seriously pay $2000 to get rid of this injury.


Question to the experts. I never saw a doc because I could feel it getting better. What kind of doctor should I see to check it out so I really know what is for sure? Should i get an xray? mri??
 
try to experiment w/ yoga or do some gentle stretching of your back everyday, especially after excersise or tennis. I have been stretching my back once in the morning everyday and after exercise and it seem relieve minor back pain.
 
Word of caution and question for experts..

HLM, I tore/strained a small muscle in my lower back/upper buttocks by twisting too much on a 2hbh. I was in incredble pain for two days. After two weeks I was better enough to play, or so I thought. i reinjured it and have been in that cycle for ..5 months now. It is stronger but still not 100%. Id say 80%, and healing a lot slower than it did in those initial two weeks. if i was smart i would have taken a month off and I would probably be fine now. I am switching to a 1hbh to avoid this back problem. Its really depressing and I would seriously pay $2000 to get rid of this injury.


Question to the experts. I never saw a doc because I could feel it getting better. What kind of doctor should I see to check it out so I really know what is for sure? Should i get an xray? mri??

Since you never saw a doctor, how do you know its a torn/strained muscle? Disc injuries actually present themselves as pain in the low back and buttocks. A stabbing or searing pain is the typical presentation. Its known as referred pain. So you need to go see a doctor that specializes in core and back problems ASAP. If you are lucky its a muscle injury. If its a disc injury, then each time you returned to activity you actually made the problem worse.
Your description of the ever lengthening recovery periods is right in line with a low back disc problem.

Unfortunately disc injuries need lots of time and rest to heal. Fortunately, if you catch them early and let them heal, most resolve themselves completely and you can eventually return to action with little worry. However if you keep stressing it whiles its still injured you will eventually cause a serious problem, probably a fragmentation or even a full herniation. Once that happens, you will be out of commission for a long time and it will never recover to 100%.

So its best to get it checked out now. An x-ray can not really show soft tissue injuries, but it can highlight if there is a thinning of the space between vertebrae. This is a preliminary indication that something is wrong with a disc or discs. The doctor may then have an MRI done to see if there is actual disc damage. Since you are recovering fairly quickly, a good doc will treat you conservatively with lots of rest, some pain meds and anit-inflammatories and eventually some physical therapy. If it doesn't resolve within 2-3 months, or the pain begins to radiate further down into your leg, more aggressive treatments may be called for.

Bottom line, get it checked out and follow your doctor's orders. There are no shortcuts when it comes to healing a recurring back problem and trying to power through it guarantees an eventual catastrophic event. I speak from personal (and very painful) experience.

-k-
 
Since you never saw a doctor, how do you know its a torn/strained muscle? Disc injuries actually present themselves as pain in the low back and buttocks. A stabbing or searing pain is the typical presentation. Its known as referred pain. So you need to go see a doctor that specializes in core and back problems ASAP. If you are lucky its a muscle injury. If its a disc injury, then each time you returned to activity you actually made the problem worse.
Your description of the ever lengthening recovery periods is right in line with a low back disc problem.

Unfortunately disc injuries need lots of time and rest to heal. Fortunately, if you catch them early and let them heal, most resolve themselves completely and you can eventually return to action with little worry. However if you keep stressing it whiles its still injured you will eventually cause a serious problem, probably a fragmentation or even a full herniation. Once that happens, you will be out of commission for a long time and it will never recover to 100%.

So its best to get it checked out now. An x-ray can not really show soft tissue injuries, but it can highlight if there is a thinning of the space between vertebrae. This is a preliminary indication that something is wrong with a disc or discs. The doctor may then have an MRI done to see if there is actual disc damage. Since you are recovering fairly quickly, a good doc will treat you conservatively with lots of rest, some pain meds and anit-inflammatories and eventually some physical therapy. If it doesn't resolve within 2-3 months, or the pain begins to radiate further down into your leg, more aggressive treatments may be called for.

Bottom line, get it checked out and follow your doctor's orders. There are no shortcuts when it comes to healing a recurring back problem and trying to power through it guarantees an eventual catastrophic event. I speak from personal (and very painful) experience.

-k-

i agree. with insurance, some chiropractors can even only charge $20-$30 a visit. it's enough to pay to make sure you know what is happening. i have had lower back problems due to the trunk rotation while executing tennis strokes (i also changed to a 1hbh to keep it from getting worse). at one point, my back spasmed and i couldn't bend at the waist AT ALL. i couldn't even bend down to wash my hands in the sink. so i went to a chiropractor every other day for a week, he gave me a deeop tissue massage on my lower back, gave me some stim therapy, cracked my back (the right way, i guess), and rubbed some icy hot stuff on it.

after that and staying off of tennis for 2 weeks, i was okay to keep playing. then i made the mistake of playing without stretching, and my back spasmed again. this time i wasn't as bad, but it took a couple visits to the chiropractor and a week off of tennis.

since then, my back has been great. go to a chiropractor and get it fixed the right way (it may feel like it's going away, but it can always come back). also find out what caused it and learn to prevent it. the reason i kept hurting my lower back was because of my trunk rotation and bending down to get low volleys. i'm fine now because i jog and stretch before i play tennis EVERY TIME, no matter what.
 
I've been dealing with lower back pain for quite a few months now myself- (I turn 38 in a week)

It comes and goes- riding in a car is quite uncomfortable after more than 30 minutes or so. The strange symptom I get is when riding in a car for a long period I get a "pulling" sensation in my left rib area. Otherwise, the pain is very isolated to the lower back- it seems to hurt the worse after teaching vs. playing which I have always thought to be a little odd as well.
 
I've been dealing with lower back pain for quite a few months now myself- (I turn 38 in a week)

It comes and goes- riding in a car is quite uncomfortable after more than 30 minutes or so. The strange symptom I get is when riding in a car for a long period I get a "pulling" sensation in my left rib area. Otherwise, the pain is very isolated to the lower back- it seems to hurt the worse after teaching vs. playing which I have always thought to be a little odd as well.

Time to see the doctor. Odds are high you have some form of disk problem. The back begins to age after you turn 25. The discs begin to dry out and shrink. This reduces their ability to absorb shock and torque, as well as shrinking the gaps between the vertebrae. As tolerances get tighter its much easier to hurt something. Combine this with high loads put on the spine by folks who play trunk twisting and bending sports and degenerative disc disease/spinal arthritis becomes a very common ailment. Its not an end to activity, but living with DDD does require some extra work on your part and the modification of the amount and way you do certain activities. And no, you can not stretch and strengthen your way out of it (even Agassi couldn't).

Getting a relationship established with a physician experienced in the treatment and management of spine problems will go a long way toward preventing further injury and helping you learn how to manage it. And use the Web. There is tons of great info on DDD, how to manage it and live with it without slowing down your lifestyle.

Good luck.
-k-
 
I've been dealing with lower back pain for quite a few months now myself- (I turn 38 in a week)

... it seems to hurt the worse after teaching vs. playing which I have always thought to be a little odd as well.

been listening to a book on CD by a Dr. Sarno titled the "the divided mind..." talks about how the mind can cause pain to distract you from something. based on the fact that you're 38(pretty young) and it seems like the problem just started and that you get issues after teaching instead of playing then i would think maybe you should check out the book....maybe you dont like teaching...heard from his experience from a guy who had pain for 24 years and after reading sarno's book and following the steps to recovery had no problems. the letter came 3 years after being pain free so i think thats enough time to know if you are well or not...does the driving pain come when you are driving to lessons? matches? home? that was just a hunch on my part cause having pain when teaching vs playing does sound weird...

edit: forgot to mention the personality type the doc talks about. People that are perfectionists, compulsive. People that try to go out of there way to be helpful. Care giver, responsible types. "goodists" as he calls some. those who try to always be "a good guy".
 
Last edited:
im only 16 and i was playing at saddlebrook tennis academy, when i hit a jackknife forehand there was a sharp pain. So, i went to the chiropractor and he took an xray and he said that i had very very minor scoliosis and that one side of my spine was more strained than the other. So, i go to the chiropractor once every three weeks and it feels fine now.
 
been listening to a book on CD by a Dr. Sarno titled the "the divided mind..." talks about how the mind can cause pain to distract you from something. based on the fact that you're 38(pretty young) and it seems like the problem just started and that you get issues after teaching instead of playing then i would think maybe you should check out the book....maybe you dont like teaching...heard from his experience from a guy who had pain for 24 years and after reading sarno's book and following the steps to recovery had no problems. the letter came 3 years after being pain free so i think thats enough time to know if you are well or not...does the driving pain come when you are driving to lessons? matches? home? that was just a hunch on my part cause having pain when teaching vs playing does sound weird...

edit: forgot to mention the personality type the doc talks about. People that are perfectionists, compulsive. People that try to go out of there way to be helpful. Care giver, responsible types. "goodists" as he calls some. those who try to always be "a good guy".


One thing I didn't really think about is often I have practiced prior to going on the court to teach, so that might have some impact ......... Also, the standing essentially stationary when I teach might bring on some of the same uncomfortableness I feel when driving. Just a guess. Regardless, only a physician could give the whole story. I just picked up a new lesson with a physician in town- maybe she could give me some ideas.
 
One thing I didn't really think about is often I have practiced prior to going on the court to teach, so that might have some impact ......... Also, the standing essentially stationary when I teach might bring on some of the same uncomfortableness I feel when driving. Just a guess. Regardless, only a physician could give the whole story. I just picked up a new lesson with a physician in town- maybe she could give me some ideas.

sounds good. i listened to the book last week and friday night i played a tougher player than i've played usually and i havent played a match in 3 months. i played him for two hours and my back was sore. then saturday i moved a computer to my dads room and a box back and forht between my car a friends place and i hit lightly saturday and sunday. saturday i also took my first boxing lesson. took one tonight and played 1.5 hours yesterday too and my back is feeling better and better the more i do without letting up ...so i'm gonna keep going till i get it out of my head. also noticed last night playing that when i was losing points stupidly or losing focus i was getting little pains here and there like in my arch, heel and middle back. granted i was working on my backhand a bit but i've done that a million times so why would my mid back all of a sudden start acting up :-\ i'll report back more later ....

ps...do you always play then go to coach? do you ever have to stop playing early or take it easy so you are up to coaching ;-) i'd hate that :-)
 
Last edited:
Well, I generally do lump them back to back. I only hit for an hour at a time though because I generally do some type of hitting everyday. I don't teach full time- usually only 2-3 hours in the late afternoon. I recently lost my job as the Club Manager at TOPS'L Resort after the company eliminated my position. I am the Pro at Club Destiny, which is only a part time gig. I'm actively seeking out a new full time position.
 
...
I recently lost my job as the Club Manager at TOPS'L Resort after the company eliminated my position. I am the Pro at Club Destiny, which is only a part time gig. I'm actively seeking out a new full time position.

you said you have had pain for a few months now right? does that coincide with the onset of pain?
 
Last edited:
i played 2 hours hard after a 3 month long layoff and i kept pushing myself to play a little that weekend and pick things up no matter how heavy and the pain was getting less and less...when i played monday i noticed pain in my arch at one point where i hit a crappy shot cause i knew i lost focus...all night i was telling myself that nothing hurts and the arch pain didnt come back...back was getting tired in the midback and i dont know why....i slightly worked on my BH that night to get it right but i've been a one hander for 10years so its not like my muscles arent use to it...so far so good...gonna play more this weekend and stop thinkin about the pain... begun to realize that i'm too hard on myself to be resposible and do the right thing and not to offend anyone and to always be a 'good guy' and helpful. and if i make a mistake im so freaked out that i'm gonna get yelled at or someone is gonna be disappointed in me....and YOU KNOW that us tennis players are extra hard on ourselves ;-)

point of all this is that physical pain (in some cases if you have certain personallity traits) is a distraction from underlying sadness, guilt or rage(as the doc refers to it) so that stuff doesnt come up cause you cant express certain feelings just cause you cant go around going off on people :-\

edit....hey youre in Destin? i just noticed that...i'm in orlando.
 
well i played tonight with my bro and i had the wilson ps85 so i had to take it easy and swing right and not get wild and my back feels little if anything at all but my calf started feeling hurt and weak :-( i'm a 5.0 player...so you guys know i'm not a 2.5 player saying i was taking it easy :-)
 
courtage, I too played tonight prior to my lessons as pain free as I can remember in a long time. It actually dawned on me a few minutes into the warmup that my wrist wasn't killing me like it has been the past 6 weeks or so. I have no idea why it was better tonight.
 
its really interesting what this Dr Sarno says. the people he describes are exactly like me...keep me posted on how long you stay pain free...if the pain moves around for no reason then i'd take a closer look at Sarno's work...i got another of his books today and it seemed more toward the patient than doctors like the first one i got. Titled "healing back pain"...got it on CD so i listen on the (1.25 HOURs!)drive to work.

first thought is that yesterday you said "I always had an uneasy feeling about the place- lots of backstabbing"...not sure if its that simple and thats all that was bothering you but now i wonder...
 
Last edited:
Back
Top