Luxilon 4G vs Tecnifibre HDX Tour

Yoneyama

Hall of Fame
Hi all,

Has anyone used both of these strings?

I am looking for a terrific tension maintenance string. I have found 4G and like it with Klip Legend Natural Gut mains.

However I have noticed that the Tecnifibre HDX Tour has considerably better tension maintenance/ lower total tension loss according to the TWU website.

It is also a lot softer than 4G.

Can anyone review HDX vs 4G, or just HDX alone in a Gut/HDX setup, or full bed of HDX?

Thanks,
Ben
 

FV_Br

Rookie
I can assure you that 4G will bring pain to some part of your arm, at any tension if used in fullbed.
 

mpournaras

Hall of Fame
Well 4G is a stiff poly... HDX is a multi with poly coating. SO they are very different strings. Most multis WILL have better tension maintenance. 4G is about as good as it gets tension wise with a poly
 

CopolyX

Hall of Fame
best way is trying man...no one is you...
one is soft - one is one of the stiffest...
If you want to play for a long time.
Start soft and slowly work you way up over the years....
 

Yoneyama

Hall of Fame
I see, thankyou! Apologies I should have read furthur into HDX. I just saw that it was listed as a "poly" on the TWU comparison. I like 4G with my Gut at the moment, it's stiffness is not hurting me 'yet'...

I have no real preference for Stiff vs Soft. I can adapt to both feels.

Has anyone used Gut mains/ HDX crosses and can comment on this setup? In the end I am just seeing the best tension maintenance possible. I was really dissapointed with how short lived the Gut/ Alu Rough I had was. So far the Gut/ 4G is lasting a while however it is stiffer as you have all mentioned.
 

FV_Br

Rookie
I see, thankyou! Apologies I should have read furthur into HDX. I just saw that it was listed as a "poly" on the TWU comparison. I like 4G with my Gut at the moment, it's stiffness is not hurting me 'yet'...

I have no real preference for Stiff vs Soft. I can adapt to both feels.

Has anyone used Gut mains/ HDX crosses and can comment on this setup? In the end I am just seeing the best tension maintenance possible. I was really dissapointed with how short lived the Gut/ Alu Rough I had was. So far the Gut/ 4G is lasting a while however it is stiffer as you have all mentioned.
HDX can be used as full bed or with nylon mono as cross, it is not necessary to use it as cross for Gut. HDX would actually replace the gut.
 

Moveforwardalways

Hall of Fame
Natty gut mains with 4G crosses is a great combo. I have not played the HDX as crosses, but I would be surprised if it has better tension maintenance than 4G.
 
I use HDX and have done so for quite some time. HDX has fantastic tension maintenance. I have seen any synthetics that hold better. I generally string it slightly lower because of it's tension maintenance ability. If I string it too tight then I am stuck with the too tight string job. I generally break my strings before they go soft. HDX is relatively durable for a multi. The control and comfort are fantastic. I use the 17 gauge in a Prince Textreme Tour P strung at 21 kg. If you try HDX, I think it would be best to try it as a full bed.
 
I use HDX and have done so for quite some time. HDX has fantastic tension maintenance. I have seen any synthetics that hold better. I generally string it slightly lower because of it's tension maintenance ability. If I string it too tight then I am stuck with the too tight string job. I generally break my strings before they go soft. HDX is relatively durable for a multi. The control and comfort are fantastic. I use the 17 gauge in a Prince Textreme Tour P strung at 21 kg. If you try HDX, I think it would be best to try it as a full bed.
I meant to say that I haven't seen any synthetics hold tension better than HDX.
 

Yoneyama

Hall of Fame
Well my Nat Gut/4G setup is still playing brilliantly.

I have ordered some HDX which I will give a go as a full bed in my second racquet. looking forward to seeing how it plays!
 

El_Yotamo

Professional
The two are extremely different strings (lively multi vs one of the stiffest, deadest polys) so it depends what you're looking for in terms of playability.

Additionally, do take the very data you cited from TWU with a grain of salt, and keep in mind the following things:

1) the data does not show the full picture; why? Because over time, it is the impact tension loss and static loss that make the biggest difference, not the one-time stabilization loss. For stringjobs lasting different amounts of time, the proportions change, so while a pro may feel stabilization loss the most as he plays only about half an hour with each stick, a player like me feels the static loss between sessions and the impact loss which creates large changes over time, despite the small change per shot (for reference, my full-poly string jobs last about 6-8 hours apiece)

2) tension maintenance does not mean playability duration; playability comes not only come from tension, it comes from string thickness, shape, and texture, all of which change as you play with your string job. The total change in feel and performance is playability loss/duration, and tension maintenance is only one part of it all.

3) why want playability duration on a string whose playability you dislike? It's a tough question, but goes to show that everything is subjective and that you should try anything before asking yourself what is ideal.

4) even if none of those criticisms were to exist, quality control still brings about differences in each string job. Data that was shown on TWU may be different from the data your string job would have, especially at different tension, as nothing in string playability is linearly correspondent with tension.

Not to knock TWU too much, they do amazing work and mention some of the very limitations I've brought up here. Still, they do not show the full picture so do not be fooled by numbers on a page.

Good luck! :)
 
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