Luxilon Alu is a joke

Aretium

Hall of Fame
First 30 mins, it's incredible. Then it's notched already. And slowly dies a fast and painful death. I can't believe how little it lasts, ombelivable. I'd have to have 2 fresh string jobs for each match.

Why haven't they fixed this haha.

I'm not starting a thread about Alu alternatives, just had to voice my opinion
 

Sardines

Professional
Well that's why the pros like them. They play well for a stretch, then it drops off dramatically. They aren't popular because they have more sponsorship, but actual results.
 
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El_Yotamo

Professional
Try using it with a slick poly cross and stringing at slightly lower tension. Should prevent notching and will also improve playability, feel, spin, and longevity in general.
 

lucieisland

Semi-Pro
Yes!....

I think there are people who are either: ultra wealthy ... and who can have the money to be able to replace luxilon alu power every 45 minutes.

or there are players who save 3 month to be able to play 2 hours with luxilon alu power ...

I prefer to have other strings that play a little less extraordinary, but for 5 hours! .. and if in addition it costs me less than $ 5, it's even better!

but legends die hard.

having tried luxilon a bit, I personally find that their element, and the BBO are better than alu power !.
 
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USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Use it for 6-8hrs and then cut it out. $9 a frame stringing off of a reel.
Worked with several girls that play on the challenger circuit and WTA. They use it until it breaks. Their level of play doesn’t look any different at the end of the string job.
Have seen Halep and Azaranka practice with it until it breaks.

BBO/Alu Power is excellent as well.
 
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Use it for 6-8hrs and then cut it out. $9 a frame stringing off of a reel.
Worked with several girls that play on the challenger circuit and WTA. They use it until it breaks. Their level of play doesn’t look any different at the end of the string job.
Have seen Halep and Azaranka practice with it until it breaks.
They at least get paid to wreck their arms with dead ALU. It's a fantastic string but I really wouldn't advise anybody hitting hard and/or with mucho topspin to use it past the 8hr mark...
 

lucieisland

Semi-Pro
I also tried alu power ... it's the best string that can exist. exceptional sound and pop. (and I'm tough with the strings!)

but this string is really fantastic for 2 to 3 hours. the question is: why play with a string that has lost its fabulous side for 5 to 6 hours?

I think it is better to play with less exceptional string during the 2 hours, but which can play at its best level for 8 hours!

it's like everything!

you prefer to play as nadal for 15 minutes, and play a beginner's level the rest of the time? or play at a very good level 5.5 to 6.5 for 2 hours? ..

unless you win your match in 15 minutes ... maybe? ..
 

Aretium

Hall of Fame
Use it for 6-8hrs and then cut it out. $9 a frame stringing off of a reel.
Worked with several girls that play on the challenger circuit and WTA. They use it until it breaks. Their level of play doesn’t look any different at the end of the string job.
Have seen Halep and Azaranka practice with it until it breaks.

BBO/Alu Power is excellent as well.
Maybe I have a different setup, maybe I strung it badly. But it didn't last a set. I also used 1.30 and it was notched after 10 minutes. So heartbreaking haha. I've heard bbo is slightly better? How is 4g? Watched tsitsipas this morning and he uses it?Could he be using bbo?
 

lucieisland

Semi-Pro
I hate alu power! ... I love BBO! ... I find BBO more homogeneous and stable over time .. more comfortable and more pleasant over time. no sudden drop in performance like alu !.
 

stephenclown

Professional
They at least get paid to wreck their arms with dead ALU. It's a fantastic string but I really wouldn't advise anybody hitting hard and/or with mucho topspin to use it past the 8hr mark...
Most people wreck their arms due to technique, which is lessened as you get to the level @USPTARF97 was talking about. A junior I know who plays at a high level strings his prestreched alu at 48 and uses it until it breaks. 3 restrings or so per week. He finds no loss of playability until breakage.

The issue is for people who are playing with slow strokes and incorrect technique hitting off-centre using poly for months at a time. Technical flaws create injuries and amateurs are plagued with them.

Most amateurs should be using at most a gut/multi and poly cross.

Edit* @OP I find that BBO loses a heap of tension and gains a lot of power as it settles. Hit big with it and it will offer great control initially. Nadal tested it out as well, he lacked a bit of control and had increased power over his 15g rpm. It's got that magic luxilon feel, 4g does not.
 
I agree that bad technique is the #1 reason for all arm injuries in tennis. However, I think the impact of poor technique is amplified by fast rather than slow strokes (more energy transferred to the arm on impact). So whilst higher level players do have far fewer off center hits, it still happens in clutch situations and when it happens it is quite jarring on the arm.

A close friend of my father who works as a sports physiotherapist says ever since kevlar and poly hit the scene, he has to work with far more tennis players.
 

ron schaap

Hall of Fame
Most people wreck their arms due to technique, which is lessened as you get to the level @USPTARF97 was talking about. A junior I know who plays at a high level strings his prestreched alu at 48 and uses it until it breaks. 3 restrings or so per week. He finds no loss of playability until breakage.

The issue is for people who are playing with slow strokes and incorrect technique hitting off-centre using poly for months at a time. Technical flaws create injuries and amateurs are plagued with them.

Most amateurs should be using at most a gut/multi and poly cross.

Edit* @OP I find that BBO loses a heap of tension and gains a lot of power as it settles. Hit big with it and it will offer great control initially. Nadal tested it out as well, he lacked a bit of control and had increased power over his 15g rpm. It's got that magic luxilon feel, 4g does not.
so delpo and nishikori lack in technique because they and probably a lot more ATP players have developped tennis related arm injuries:eek::happydevil:
You are only justifying high price of mediocre Alu
 
so delpo and nishikori lack in technique because they and probably a lot more ATP players have developped tennis related arm injuries:eek::happydevil:
You are only justifying high price of mediocre Alu
well, delpo's wrist might have suffered more from galactical swing weight than poly, but I fully agree with the general message of your post
 

Alexh22

Professional
The price of Alu and many other top strings are hyped up. Many of them do not last over a few hours.
string it low is the key.
 

SinneGOAT

Professional
I tried Alu power, wasn’t amazing. It just felt sorta meh, feels like a regular round poly with a controllled feeling but not super stiff. Definitely does not justify the hype.
 

stephenclown

Professional
so delpo and nishikori lack in technique because they and probably a lot more ATP players have developped tennis related arm injuries:eek::happydevil:
You are only justifying high price of mediocre Alu
Are you ignoring the fact that he had surgery on both wrists? 3 separate operations on his left wrist. Likely due to genetics more than his strokes or string choice. Who knows if gut would have stopped the issues due to the speed at which he hits. If it was only poly he would have likely just injured his forehand as his backhand is a much safer stroke.

Nishikori plays a grinding game and suffers from glass like fragility as seen in his ankle injuries as well as knees.

I also said it was 'lessened' if you re-read my post, not that it was eliminated.

Djokovic injured his elbow with gut/poly and a very soft frame.

Repetitive strokes regardless of string type can cause injury. Injury is lessened on pro players due to their mechanics. The fact that they hit thousands of times as many balls as amateurs is a pretty strong indication that their strokes lessen the impact on their joints regardless of string.

The fact that you reference only really two players to make a point doesn't do you many favours. The majority of pros use full poly and the vast majority have not had their careers destroyed by wrist injuries.

Calling alu a mediocre string is harsh. It has mediocre playability for amateurs but is still a hugely popular string among tour players and has won a lot of grand slams and ATP tournaments in full bed or hybrid. For the cost it is not worth it for most amateurs but most amateurs shouldn't be using poly anyway.
 
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lucieisland

Semi-Pro
for me, the Luxilon strings that have something special, but worth the price we pay are Element, BBO and ACE. the others, I find them just marketing products, not suitable for club players.

4G I don't know, I have never been able to play well and assess it at its fair value. i think there are better for less, while i'm struggling to find something similar to element, ace and bbo
 

ron schaap

Hall of Fame
Are you ignoring the fact that he had surgery on both wrists? 3 separate operations on his left wrist. Likely due to genetics more than his strokes or string choice. Who knows if gut would have stopped the issues due to the speed at which he hits. If it was only poly he would have likely just injured his forehand as his backhand is a much safer stroke.

Nishikori plays a grinding game and suffers from glass like fragility as seen in his ankle injuries as well as knees.

I also said it was 'lessened' if you re-read my post, not that it was eliminated.

Djokovic injured his elbow with gut/poly and a very soft frame.

Repetitive strokes regardless of string type can cause injury. Injury is lessened on pro players due to their mechanics. The fact that they hit thousands of times as many balls as amateurs is a pretty strong indication that their strokes lessen the impact on their joints regardless of string.

The fact that you reference only really two players to make a point doesn't do you many favours. The majority of pros use full poly and the vast majority have not had their careers destroyed by wrist injuries.

Calling alu a mediocre string is silly. It has mediocre playability for amateurs but is still a hugely popular string among tour players and has won a lot of grand slams and ATP tournaments in full bed or hybrid. For the cost it is not worth it for most amateurs but most amateurs shouldn't be using poly anyway.
if alu would have such fantastic long playability then not all ATP players would have tochange to freshly strung racquet just after 9 games in which they have hit considerable less balls than amateurs who play until it breaks. Popularity has nothing to do with quality. Anyway of the top 5 atp, Stan, Thiem and Nadal play Babolat strings so according to you that must be better strings. and Thiem after using rpm blast changed to the Babolat strings they developed specially for him. Zverez plays Head hawk which isnt Alu too. Tsitsipas also plays 4g which isnt like alu at all but much more stable.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Use it for 6-8hrs and then cut it out. $9 a frame stringing off of a reel.
Worked with several girls that play on the challenger circuit and WTA. They use it until it breaks. Their level of play doesn’t look any different at the end of the string job.
Have seen Halep and Azaranka practice with it until it breaks.

BBO/Alu Power is excellent as well.
This is exactly right. Most of the girls I strung for over 10 years at the event I worked went through two sets a day in practice, broke two sets a day. If they were playing a match, the had their frames freshly strung before each match. One girl I strung for 3 years at the venue used ALU 1.25 at 86 pounds. In practice, she'd use 1.38 at 86 pounds. She broke two sets of it a day as well. These girls don't hit the ball nearly as hard as the men, especially the top 100 men. The main reason the guys change rackets every 7 games is if they didn't, they'd run the risk of breaking strings. There are still some guys who don't follow the Lendl set precedence. The doubles guys, who volley a lot more don't get a new stick every 7 games. Federer had a tweet where he showed two rackets he broke in practice, both after 30 minutes. Both were broken mains, natural gut.

Mark Phillipousis was at a tournament back in the day and went to the stringing room. He saw Sampras in there getting gut cut out and restrung. Phillipousis thought he'd do the same since Sampras did it. He left his rackets. His coach was right behind him and after MP left he told the staff to re-stencil them, he'd never know the difference.

IMO (this is where we get to the opinion part) there is way too much overthinking going on at the club level. :) And, for my money, Luxilon strings are worth the cost. I play TiMO in the crosses and I play it until the mains break or are heavily notched. At one point, I played 5.0 and now as an official old fart, play 4.0. Thankfully, I have broken myself of the terrible habit of overthinking my gear.
 

stephenclown

Professional
if alu would have such fantastic long playability then not all ATP players would have tochange to freshly strung racquet just after 9 games in which they have hit considerable less balls than amateurs who play until it breaks. Popularity has nothing to do with quality. Anyway of the top 5 atp, Stan, Thiem and Nadal play Babolat strings so according to you that must be better strings. and Thiem after using rpm blast changed to the Babolat strings they developed specially for him. Zverez plays Head hawk which isnt Alu too. Tsitsipas also plays 4g which isnt like alu at all but much more stable.
Not all players change after 7 and then 9 but it is common yes. Not because of strings dying but because they want absolute control with faster balls. They do this regardless of the strings used. Dunlop AO fluff up extremely quick and slow down, new balls with new strings makes sense.

Federer uses his racquets for in excess of 45 minutes while practicing for reference, has been video on YouTube showing the fraying. He doesn't need to swap after 9 games because alu has died. Pros hit many more shots while practicing and don't switch racquets out nearly as often as the equivalent of 9 games of play.

If you think pro players are costing themselves advantages over other players because they use alu you are delusional. They wouldn't use a string just because it's popular, they use them because they fit the type of play on the ATP tour. I'm sure you know better than their coaches and the players themselves...

Racquet companies want their players using their strings for obvious reasons. Thiem was experimenting with HEAD strings and then Babolat made power for him.

RPM Blast has similar issues to alu except it's silicone coating also wears off very fast if you hit hard. Tension loss and drop in playability makes it a bad choice for amateurs as well.

Djokovic plays luxilon alu while contracted to head. It is used in so many hybrids on tour and by so many top players.

@Rabbit he used them 30-45 minutes and they were starting to fray, not broken. Games create less stress on the strings due to a far fewer number of balls hit. It's due to pace of new balls in changeover. James Blake had an interview where he talked about his alu and he hit with them for about 2 hours before switching them out in practice.

 
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Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
@stephenclown it's been reported Djokovic changed to the natural gut/ALU hybrid because of Federer's use of same. Serena did the same thing. It would appear the pros are fans too.
 

stephenclown

Professional
@stephenclown it's been reported Djokovic changed to the natural gut/ALU hybrid because of Federer's use of same. Serena did the same thing. It would appear the pros are fans too.
They wouldn't use it if it was negatively impacting their game, that's the point. It is an exceptional string for the highest level of play, just like RPM blast if you can hit hard enough and other popular strings on tour. Surely head tried to get Djokovic to use their strings a number of times as well.

Even De Minaur just switched off 4g to Alu recently for some extra juice
 

Aretium

Hall of Fame
I've been trying a few strings, solinco tour bite has the same depth of notching after 3 sessions as alu does in one. Solinco is about to break. Alu strings don't move back, solinco still has some snapback. I still can't believe it. I've never had a string die so quickly
 

ron schaap

Hall of Fame
@stephenclown it's been reported Djokovic changed to the natural gut/ALU hybrid because of Federer's use of same. Serena did the same thing. It would appear the pros are fans too.
if used in hybrid, it is the main strings which are gut that dominates the properties of the stringbed. Everyone knows that. The only reason that Fed uses Alu ROUGH in crosses is because this combination gives the least inter string friction as explained and measured by TWu!
So it isnt even the smooth alu which fed uses and than only in crosses because appearantly the gut gives him better feel and power and softness which is commonly known too. :happydevil:
Not all players change after 7 and then 9 but it is common yes. Not because of strings dying but because they want absolute control with faster balls. They do this regardless of the strings used. Dunlop AO fluff up extremely quick and slow down, new balls with new strings makes sense.

Federer uses his racquets for in excess of 45 minutes while practicing for reference, has been video on YouTube showing the fraying. He doesn't need to swap after 9 games because alu has died. Pros hit many more shots while practicing and don't switch racquets out nearly as often as the equivalent of 9 games of play.

If you think pro players are costing themselves advantages over other players because they use alu you are delusional. They wouldn't use a string just because it's popular, they use them because they fit the type of play on the ATP tour. I'm sure you know better than their coaches and the players themselves...

Racquet companies want their players using their strings for obvious reasons. Thiem was experimenting with HEAD strings and then Babolat made power for him.

RPM Blast has similar issues to alu except it's silicone coating also wears off very fast if you hit hard. Tension loss and drop in playability makes it a bad choice for amateurs as well.

Djokovic plays luxilon alu while contracted to head. It is used in so many hybrids on tour and by so many top players.

@Rabbit he used them 30-45 minutes and they were starting to fray, not broken. Games create less stress on the strings due to a far fewer number of balls hit. It's due to pace of new balls in changeover. James Blake had an interview where he talked about his alu and he hit with them for about 2 hours before switching them out in practice.

the gut Fed uses is from the same firm that has Wilson under its umbrella i believe.
 

Doubles

Legend
Does ALU drop off in playability after a bit? Sure, but so does every poly. In my experience, ALU after 6 hours still plays better than Hyper G or Tour Bite after 3. Do I miss some shots I would've made if the string was fresh? Maybe, but I miss even more from poor footwork or timing.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Maybe I have a different setup, maybe I strung it badly. But it didn't last a set. I also used 1.30 and it was notched after 10 minutes. So heartbreaking haha. I've heard bbo is slightly better? How is 4g? Watched tsitsipas this morning and he uses it?Could he be using bbo?
I only used them as crosses but 4g lasts the longest then BBO and then ALU. Not sure in a full bed. With kevlar mains and 4g crosses I can get 3-4 weeks until I need to restring.
 

Aretium

Hall of Fame
Does ALU drop off in playability after a bit? Sure, but so does every poly. In my experience, ALU after 6 hours still plays better than Hyper G or Tour Bite after 3. Do I miss some shots I would've made if the string was fresh? Maybe, but I miss even more from poor footwork or timing.
Dunno, I started sending balls fractionally deeper or long mid way through the second set. I didn't have this problem with other strings or even the cheap pros pro stuff.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
They at least get paid to wreck their arms with dead ALU. It's a fantastic string but I really wouldn't advise anybody hitting hard and/or with mucho topspin to use it past the 8hr mark...
They play with what produces the best tennis for their game. At professional events as much as 60-80% of the players are using Luxilon either full bed or hybrid. If players don’t produce their best tennis and win..nothing else matters. They don’t get paid, they don’t get lucrative sponsorship deals and they end up feeding balls at a club and traveling with tournament kids.
Most recreational players that find Alu Power lacking are either stringing it too tight or have no business playing with it in the first place. Some just prefer other strings.
 
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lucieisland

Semi-Pro
I think we are doing a little too much on this string that is alu power.

of course it's probably the best string in the world. for some players, in some uses.

I have a friend who does hill climb rallying, he uses competition tires, which are very expensive, but which also die very quickly.

he uses it because he is an official pilot locally. but, would he use such tires every day? no, of course!...

of course that this string remains a must, but I played with it, and, the drop in performance is monstrous, whoever says that it is playable beyond 3 or 4 hours, is that, for me, it does not differentiate between the specificity of the alu power, and another discount string!

it's still playable, of course, but why then use alu power, while another string costing three times less does just as well ...

when i see the overall performance of alu power, it remains playable beyond 3 hours, but with what performance? to convince oneself that it remains playable does not make it so efficient at its maximum. and if we admit that the fact that it is no longer efficient after 3 hours, it must be cut, otherwise, you might as well play with a string that will play less efficient, but longer .. no?

between alu power which plays at 100% for 1h30, then at 90% for 1 hour, and drops to 50% for 4 hours.

and another string that will play at 75% of the performance of alu power for 6 hours .. I don't hesitate.

how to adapt your game to a drop in performance? if we admit that this drop in performance is acceptable, then we must accept to also consider strings which are only 75% as efficient as alu power, but longer .. no?

Often, weiss SS, topspin cyber flash, kirschbaum max power, and many others that play almost like alu power.

and this almost done would make a lot of difference.

but, the question is: does alu power after 3 hours play as well as new alu power? no.

does alu power play as well as silverstring after 5 hours? I am not so sure!..

for me, scorpion plays very well beyond 8am! while alu power is long dead!
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Not too sure about those percentages but playing matches or training I am playing just as well at the end of a string bed of Alu as the beginning. No way I’m cutting it out in 3hrs. Too expensive.
Several of the juniors we work with prefer Alu at the end of its life. Have seen many juniors stand on a fresh string bed of Alu when it is right off the stringer.
Weiss Cannon Silverstring is a soft playing string with decent playability but nothing in comparison to Alu Power.
 

lucieisland

Semi-Pro
weiss SS nothing to do with new alu power .. but if we compare alu power after 4 hours, and weiss 4 hours, I'm not that convinced.

and when you play with mantis poly power, or signum firestorm, after 6 hours are still very playable and have not lost that much in terms of playability (much less than aluminum at the same time.)

once again, if people play better with dead aluminum, it's because they don't have the use of aluminum! .. that's all !. the main interest of alu is the first two hours ... otherwise, you might as well take something else.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
weiss SS nothing to do with new alu power .. but if we compare alu power after 4 hours, and weiss 4 hours, I'm not that convinced.

and when you play with mantis poly power, or signum firestorm, after 6 hours are still very playable and have not lost that much in terms of playability (much less than aluminum at the same time.)

once again, if people play better with dead aluminum, it's because they don't have the use of aluminum! .. that's all !. the main interest of alu is the first two hours ... otherwise, you might as well take something else.
I actually like Weiss Cannon Silverstring better after a couple hours of play. Nice string
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Those first few hours are most important to me due to that being about the length of a long tennis match. Start most matches in a tournament with a fresh frame but depending on conditions will use one a bit looser from a round or so before. To each his own and you just have to figure out works best for yourself.
 

Aretium

Hall of Fame
I'm not saying it's a bad string. But no 1 it doesn't last long playability wise. No 2 I'd break it next session or after. Even stringing it up, it felt soft for a poly, not much coil memory or whatever. I dno, I hadn't used it in 5 years. I'd hoped it would last 4/5 hours at least. But 30 mins? Come on, I'm not spending half my week stringing or paying for each stringing.
 

ron schaap

Hall of Fame
They play with what produces the best tennis for their game. At professional events as much as 60-80% of the players are using Luxilon either full bed or hybrid. If players don’t produce their best tennis and win..nothing else matters. They don’t get paid, they don’t get lucrative sponsorship deals and they end up feeding balls at a club and traveling with tournament kids.
Most recreational players that find Alu Power lacking are either stringing it too tight or have no business playing with it in the first place. Some just prefer other strings.
if it is results that only counts than only rpm blast should be used by serious atp players because only with this string fullbed are won the most Grandslam matches. Only delpo won a grandslam with alu fullbed, lol. Ofcourse hybrids are not taken into fair account.
Also the argument that racquet sponsors want their players to use their strings does not hold because as long as Stan the man uses babolat blast as long as he uses Yonex racquets.
Maybe the coating of blast is not durable but no coating is really. I do find it not a bad string at all but a little to expensive to keep using it.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
I'm not saying it's a bad string. But no 1 it doesn't last long playability wise. No 2 I'd break it next session or after. Even stringing it up, it felt soft for a poly, not much coil memory or whatever. I dno, I hadn't used it in 5 years. I'd hoped it would last 4/5 hours at least. But 30 mins? Come on, I'm not spending half my week stringing or paying for each stringing.
Sounds like it is not suited for your game. Anything that breaks in 30min I would be done. What frame you using?
 
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USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
if it is results that only counts than only rpm blast should be used by serious atp players because only with this string fullbed are won the most Grandslam matches. Only delpo won a grandslam with alu fullbed, lol. Ofcourse hybrids are not taken into fair account.
Also the argument that racquet sponsors want their players to use their strings does not hold because as long as Stan the man uses babolat blast as long as he uses Yonex racquets.
Maybe the coating of blast is not durable but no coating is really. I do find it not a bad string at all but a little to expensive to keep using it.
You realize that Halep plays with full bed Alu Power. Mugaruza, Venus Williams, Azaranka, and the list is ridiculously long on the men’s and women’s side. Agassi probably the most notable using full bed Alu Power. Federer using Alu Rough in the cross. Serena using 4g in the cross. Two of the greatest players of all time.
The list of top 100 players on the ATP and WTA using full poly is huge as well. Ashley Barty #1 in the world.
Believe their standards and need for a good setup is much more than ours. Think we will ever hit a ball bigger than Kchachanov (Alu), Monfils (Alu) Tsisipas (4g) and need a more durable set up? No way.

*14 players in the ATP Top 50 using Alu Power full bed, 7 using Big Banger, 5 using RPM Blast.
 
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TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
I've been using Alu for about 13 years now. Every year I test a few strings to see if perhaps I can stumble across something that plays similar but lasts longer and to no avail. I bet I tried somewhere in the neighborhood of 25 different poly's and none of them even came close to Alu imo. So I buy reels from a guy in Miami at a discounted price and end up paying $11 per string job and restring every 4 hours. That's the price I must pay if I want to play my best tennis all of the time. It is what it is. No way around it. At least not yet.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
I've been using Alu for about 13 years now. Every year I test a few strings to see if perhaps I can stumble across something that plays similar but lasts longer and to no avail. I bet I tried somewhere in the neighborhood of 25 different poly's and none of them even came close to Alu imo. So I buy reels from a guy in Miami at a discounted price and end up paying $11 per string job and restring every 4 hours. That's the price I must pay if I want to play my best tennis all of the time. It is what it is. No way around it. At least not yet.
Same experience here.
 

jdub486

New User
In my RF97 and every other racket I have used, nothing plays remotely close to gut mains/ alu rough cross when the alu is fresh. I have tried dozens of poly crosses. Others have a much longer playability duration and better durability but nothing can match fresh alu. The feel, sound, and balance of crispness and ball pocketing is excellent. At the moderate expense of the initial playability, you can pre-stretch alu have a more consistent ride for 8-10 hours of play. RPM blast rough has nice pocketing and power but did not have as much feel and feedback.
 

Diablo XP

New User
It's such a fantastic performing string. I'm a rec player who doesn't even play club tennis. I do playmycourt meetups and have matches a couple of times a week, and play with my wife (matches) 3 times a week. She was a Division 2 player in college. She is 51, I am 53. I like to play with good stuff. I have extra income that can cover strings and stringing. Unfortunately I don't know how to string. Formally played with full bed ALU until elbow issues slowly crept up. Now play with gut mains, ALU cross, and it is the best experience I've ever had playing. I've been playing since high school. 15 years ago I couldn't afford it. Now I'm able to. Gut mains will break before poly goes completely dead, and even if it does die, the gut extends it's playability imo. balls don't sail and your arm doesn't get destroyed like full bed. In order to keep up that playing schedule I need 5 duplicate racquets. Play with 2 while 2 are in the shop. 3rd is for backup to get me through any emergency. I can make it work. The feel, power, spin, and pocketing is totally worth it to me and it makes me happy. Do I need to play with this combo?
Absolutely not. But if it makes you happy do it! String it low in a players type frame, with crosses 4-5 lbs lower. Best of ALL worlds.
 

Aretium

Hall of Fame
Sounds like it is not suited for your game. Anything that breaks in 30min I would be done. What frame you using?
Clue's in your name haha. It was beautiful whilst it lasted, but isn't that true of life. Only alu could bring an existential crisis.

And nothing comes close you say? I've got kirschbaum max power, isospeed grey fire and tourna big hitter silver 7 coming up. Tbh the tour bite seemed ok, slightly less control than alu but still felt a lot of control for a shapes poly ( tend to find them erratic)
 

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Clue's in your name haha. It was beautiful whilst it lasted, but isn't that true of life. Only alu could bring an existential crisis.

And nothing comes close you say? I've got kirschbaum max power, isospeed grey fire and tourna big hitter silver 7 coming up. Tbh the tour bite seemed ok, slightly less control than alu but still felt a lot of control for a shapes poly ( tend to find them erratic)
Still have my RF97’s strung with VS/4g. The frames that I have full bed Alu Power in are Wilson 6.1 95 18x20 and Head Prestige Mid 360+ 93”.
Tried many full bed poly string beds in the RF97 and nothing compared to several different Gut/poly combinations.
When I played open level tennis spent about 15yrs playing with Alu Power.
Primarily playing with the Head Prestige Mid and staying with that just trying to use up the strung Wilson frames.
 

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You realize that Halep plays with full bed Alu Power. Mugaruza, Venus Williams, Azaranka, and the list is ridiculously long on the men’s and women’s side. Agassi probably the most notable using full bed Alu Power. Federer using Alu Rough in the cross. Serena using 4g in the cross. Two of the greatest players of all time.
The list of top 100 players on the ATP and WTA using full poly is huge as well. Ashley Barty #1 in the world.
Believe their standards and need for a good setup is much more than ours. Think we will ever hit a ball bigger than Kchachanov (Alu), Monfils (Alu) Tsisipas (4g) and need a more durable set up? No way.

*14 players in the ATP Top 50 using Alu Power full bed, 7 using Big Banger, 5 using RPM Blast.
Well the issue concerns succesfull ATP players with fullbed poly in the only tournaments, grandslams that really matter. So than its only Babolat rpm (blast). Only Delpo and Cilic won a title with fullbed Alu. Thats a minority. Than considering about 10 years ago there was a lot more diversity in strings among pros. Davydenko and Stich earlier did even use the super cheap Polystar strings and Rafa used the cheapest Babolat poly in the beginning of his career. So mentioning the expensive Alu as the best string for pros and good amateurs is pure nonsense. Its copycat and make believe. Interesting Osaka did not need the super string Alu but a Yonex hybrid to win her last grand slam in New York. lol
 

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Well the issue concerns succesfull ATP players with fullbed poly in the only tournaments, grandslams that really matter. So than its only Babolat rpm (blast). Only Delpo and Cilic won a title with fullbed Alu. Thats a minority. Than considering about 10 years ago there was a lot more diversity in strings among pros. Davydenko and Stich earlier did even use the super cheap Polystar strings and Rafa used the cheapest Babolat poly in the beginning of his career. So mentioning the expensive Alu as the best string for pros and good amateurs is pure nonsense. Its copycat and make believe. Interesting Osaka did not need the super string Alu but a Yonex hybrid to win her last grand slam in New York. lol
When so many players in professional, collegiate, junior tennis and not to mention recreational tennis are using Luxilon Alu Power it isnt exactly make believe. I thought the issue in this thread was the guy was having a problem with Alu Power losing its playability too quick for his liking. So you are only able to use a poly string full bed that has won the most grand slam tournaments? You going to compete in Grand Slam tournaments? You unable to play with a string unless it is what Nadal or Wawrinka use? Your game resemble either one of theirs or anyone in the top 50? You can trust that whatever your level is it isn't going to matter what poly you use in terms of your play as long as you have the right tension and it doesn't hurt your arm. This is kinda like saying since Serena and Federer are the greatest of all time so far, the only string combination worth talking about is Wilson Gut mains with Luxilon crosses. Djokovic has also followed in their footsteps. If you look at the Big 4. 3 of the 4 either use Gut/poly or Poly/ Gut. That doesn't mean that other strings are obsolete or not worth talking about.
Hit this morning with Gut/poly, Luxilon Alu, Head Lynx Tour. They all have different assets and liabilities I suppose. Luxilon Alu Power has no downside for my game. The Alu power had 4-5 hours on it. Matter of preference.
 
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When so many players in professional, collegiate, junior tennis and not to mention recreational tennis are using Luxilon Alu Power it isnt exactly make believe. I thought the issue in this thread was the guy was having a problem with Alu Power losing its playability too quick for his liking. So you are only able to use a poly string full bed that has won the most grand slam tournaments? You going to compete in Grand Slam tournaments? You unable to play with a string unless it is what Nadal or Wawrinka use? Your game resemble either one of theirs or anyone in the top 50? You can trust that whatever your level is it isn't going to matter what poly you use in terms of your play as long as you have the right tension and it doesn't hurt your arm. This is kinda like saying since Serena and Federer are the greatest of all time so far, the only string combination worth talking about is Wilson Gut mains with Luxilon crosses. Djokovic has also followed in their footsteps. If you look at the Big 4. 3 of the 4 either use Gut/poly or Poly/ Gut. That doesn't mean that other strings are obsolete or not worth talking about.
Hit this morning with Gut/poly, Luxilon Alu, Head Lynx Tour. They all have different assets and liabilities I suppose. Luxilon Alu Power has no downside for my game. The Alu power had 4-5 hours on it. Matter of preference.
i only debunk the defence of Alu that it must be the best poly because so many pros use it and they supposedly use it because they are succesful with it. .As if they could nt be succesful with other far less expensive polys . In fact Stan, Rafa and Osaka proved they dont need it.
Furthermore as if we could nt be succesful with other strings or else we are nt good enough according to the defenders of Alu. Thats not my logic and i find i quite ridiciously.
 

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i only debunk the defence of Alu that it must be the best poly because so many pros use it and they supposedly use it because they are succesful with it. .As if they could nt be succesful with other far less expensive polys . In fact Stan, Rafa and Osaka proved they dont need it.
Furthermore as if we could nt be succesful with other strings or else we are nt good enough according to the defenders of Alu. Thats not my logic and i find i quite ridiciously.
They and we play with what we like the most. It’s not that complex.
 
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