Luxilon gut sale?

IowaGuy

Hall of Fame
I usually string multis on my Babolat Pure Aero at 54 lbs. I am planning on stringing a full bed of Luxilon Natural gut, 1.25 but dont exactly at what tension? Any recommendation on the tension?
If you want it to play (somewhat) similarly to the multi, you'll want to string higher since gut is more powerful. Maybe somewhere around 60#?
 

aaron_h27

Semi-Pro
Yes, definitely lower powered than VS.

They must not be allowing it anymore, it was still on the website when I ordered it. They probably got too many orders.
That's strange, I remember trying VS a while back and it was super stiff and low-powered for me personally. I will try it again though soon.

I string Lux 1.30 at 61-62 lbs in my DR 98. The Old Wilson Gut (pre BT-7) I string at 63-64 lbs so there's not much difference in power level (to me personally)

I know some people have said Lux has more power than VS. I'm not sure anymore lol.
 

Traffic

Hall of Fame
I’ve talked about how much I like Legend/Velocity to my coworker. So I told him about the lux gut and he picked up 3 sets. I helped him string up Lux/Velocity on his new stringing machine. So I’ll check in with him on Monday on how the setup worked. My own 3packs came in yesterday. Probably won’t be until late January for me to try out.
 

jim e

Legend
Those who tried Luxilon NG for the first time how did you like it?
Not my first time , but I can tell you it is a nice hitting Nat. Gut. It is a little more crisp hit than VS, but has great control. Has very good durability as well. I have hit with Nat. Gut for years, and I really like the Lux gut. Do not hesitate to string it at a relatively high tension, as Nat gut hits well at high tensions, compared to a synthetic string, and the higher tension will give you good control.The center of the string has a mark on it to make it easy to cut in half if that is what you like to do.
 

aaron_h27

Semi-Pro
Not my first time , but I can tell you it is a nice hitting Nat. Gut. It is a little more crisp hit than VS, but has great control. Has very good durability as well. I have hit with Nat. Gut for years, and I really like the Lux gut. Do not hesitate to string it at a relatively high tension, as Nat gut hits well at high tensions, compared to a synthetic string, and the higher tension will give you good control.The center of the string has a mark on it to make it easy to cut in half if that is what you like to do.
I agree with you on the higher tensions, I started out at 58 lbs now im up to 63 lbs. I'm trying to find a tension that can remain playable until the NG breaks as I have yet to break a set of Luxilon NG.
 

IowaGuy

Hall of Fame
I agree with you on the higher tensions, I started out at 58 lbs now im up to 63 lbs. I'm trying to find a tension that can remain playable until the NG breaks as I have yet to break a set of Luxilon NG.
How much are you pre-stretching your Lux nat gut?
 

jim e

Legend
I only hand pre stretch only, just to rid string of coil memory. The Lux. Gut does not really have a great amount of coil, and it is rather kink resistant compartment to other guts.It makes stringing easier than other guts, but you still need to be careful. I do not use machine prestretch as with friction of cross strings against the mains, I doubt all the extra tension of the % pre stretch goes back to reference
 

IowaGuy

Hall of Fame
I only hand pre stretch only, just to rid string of coil memory. The Lux. Gut does not really have a great amount of coil, and it is rather kink resistant compartment to other guts.It makes stringing easier than other guys, but you still need to be careful. I do not use machine prestretch as with friction of cross strings against the mains, I doubt all the extra tension of the % pre stretch goes back to reference
Yeah, I'm curious how much pre-stretching could improve the tension maintenance of the string through its lifetime? (~30 hours?)

I only pre-stretch by hand as well, but am thinking to try more agressive pre-stretching to try to decrease the tension once I start to play with it...
 

jim e

Legend
Nat. Gut maintains it's tension better than other strings. That along with the string keeping it's elasticity a long time, makes the string very much playable until it breaks.
For the pre stretch I just clamp one end to machine clamp, walk string back while checking string g for defects, (which I have spotted in past) , then pull on the end by hand, as you can feel string give a little, as that helps eliminate some of the coil memory, and makes stringing easier.
 
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IowaGuy

Hall of Fame
Nat. Gut maintains it's tension better than other strings. That along with the string keeping it's elasticity a long time, makes the string very much playable until it breaks.
Yes, I agree, I play with full-bed nat gut.

I'm trying to minimize the tension loss, and am curious if it's possible to aggressively pre-stretch, in order to decrease the tension loss.

For example, if one pre-stretches by hand and then strings at 63, the string might end up at 55 by the end of its life.

However, is it possible to more aggressively pre-stretch so that stringing at 63 only drops to 60 by the end of its life? 5 pounds tension difference (60 vs 55) to me is very noticeable...
 

jim e

Legend
If you use the machines pre stretch, I believe that the cross strings tension will remain higher by the friction, so string will not go back to reference tension evenly across the cross strings. It will give you a higher string bed stiffness, but so will just increasing tension.
 

jim e

Legend
My stringer pre stretches by hand just to get rid of the kinks
Actually hand pre stretch gets rid of some of the coil memory, which helps stringing so less chance of kinking, it does not get rid of kinks as you really do not want any kinks in gut so there should be none to get rid of. Actually if you kink it, then damage is done and there is no getting rid of damage from a kink.
Fortunately for inexperienced stringers Lux. Gut is more resistant to kinking than other Nat. gut strings. Last thing anyone needs to do is kink a set of gut, as that will ruin the set.
 
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IowaGuy

Hall of Fame
What tension are you stringing at now ?
Stringing at 57# with the 1.25, in a fairly low-power frame (ProStaff 97S).

Let sit for couple weeks before hitting with it to let the tension settle in a bit (drops a couple of pounds during that time, according to RacquetTune).

Also preventatively adding lots of Babolat String Savers (to reduce sawing of the mains by the crosses), which tightens up the stringbed so might be more equivalent to a 60# string job. (RacquetTune actually registers the tension as decreasing as you add String Savers, they apparently reduce the frequency of the string vibrations.)
 

IowaGuy

Hall of Fame
Luxilon gut is so durable I can't imagine adding string savers. I have yet to break a set.
How are your crosses not sawing through your mains?

I hit with moderate spin/pace, and get a fair amount of string movement.

Against 4.5-5.0 competitors, I get ~15 hours on my 1.25 gut before the crosses saw through the mains.

I have tried 1.30 and get a few more hours from it, but it too doesn't hold up to the sawing effect.

With string savers this number goes much higher...
 

jim e

Legend
Lux Gut no longer a TW item and it appears that it has been discontinued.
Once again me and the "marketplace" are in disagreement.
There are other business selling the Lux. Gut.You can even order it from Luxilon web site.No reason to say it is discontinued, (fake news) , as other places selling it, just no longer at the sale price.
 
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leejayh

Rookie
TW actually cancelled my order (3 sets) that was already placed because they "ran out." And, they are not honoring it with a back order fulfillment. Truely the first time that TW has really let me down. Makes me think twice about future orders. Very upset about this.
 

Addxyz

Semi-Pro
TW actually cancelled my order (3 sets) that was already placed because they "ran out." And, they are not honoring it with a back order fulfillment. Truely the first time that TW has really let me down. Makes me think twice about future orders. Very upset about this.
Blame the guy that ordered 50 sets.

I ended up buying direct from Wilson once TW ran out. It was the same price.

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aaron_h27

Semi-Pro
How are your crosses not sawing through your mains?

I hit with moderate spin/pace, and get a fair amount of string movement.

Against 4.5-5.0 competitors, I get ~15 hours on my 1.25 gut before the crosses saw through the mains.

I have tried 1.30 and get a few more hours from it, but it too doesn't hold up to the sawing effect.

With string savers this number goes much higher...
I have a dense 16x19 string pattern. I am using DR 98. Maybe that's why. I am not sure
 

aaron_h27

Semi-Pro
Blame the guy that ordered 50 sets.

I ended up buying direct from Wilson once TW ran out. It was the same price.

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I don't blame you, wish i would have ordered more. I only ordered 6 sets due to financial hardship at the moment. LOL
 

jim e

Legend
Lot of profit on strings.
50% off and still a profit made on sale of strings. That was the time to buy.
 

tomato123

Semi-Pro
Thanks! I ordered some 1.25 but more importantly I ordered 20 sets of Timo 18 at $7/set it’s a steal!
@Rabbit -

I'm not sure if you ever used Timo with natural gut, but I am currently using the 18 timo with lux gut and found it to be superb for control and spin, and taming the natural gut's power. I'm going on about 8-10 hours so far with the setup, and I was wondering if the tension loss isn't as bad when you use it in a hybrid? I saw that people have said Timo tends to lose tension and playability rather quickly, but I have not yet noticed anything drastic up to this point. I also use an 18x20. So I am trying to figure out if the tension loss has already occurred and settled, or if at some point there is going to be a big drop in tension/performance at some point if I start to go into 15-20 hour territory. If you used this hybrid before, do you find that the timo performs well with natural gut until the gut breaks?

Thanks!
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
@Rabbit -

I'm not sure if you ever used Timo with natural gut, but I am currently using the 18 timo with lux gut and found it to be superb for control and spin, and taming the natural gut's power. I'm going on about 8-10 hours so far with the setup, and I was wondering if the tension loss isn't as bad when you use it in a hybrid? I saw that people have said Timo tends to lose tension and playability rather quickly, but I have not yet noticed anything drastic up to this point. I also use an 18x20. So I am trying to figure out if the tension loss has already occurred and settled, or if at some point there is going to be a big drop in tension/performance at some point if I start to go into 15-20 hour territory. If you used this hybrid before, do you find that the timo performs well with natural gut until the gut breaks?

Thanks!
What tension are you using with the 18x20 and Gut/poly?
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
@Rabbit -

I'm not sure if you ever used Timo with natural gut, but I am currently using the 18 timo with lux gut and found it to be superb for control and spin, and taming the natural gut's power. I'm going on about 8-10 hours so far with the setup, and I was wondering if the tension loss isn't as bad when you use it in a hybrid? I saw that people have said Timo tends to lose tension and playability rather quickly, but I have not yet noticed anything drastic up to this point. I also use an 18x20. So I am trying to figure out if the tension loss has already occurred and settled, or if at some point there is going to be a big drop in tension/performance at some point if I start to go into 15-20 hour territory. If you used this hybrid before, do you find that the timo performs well with natural gut until the gut breaks?

Thanks!
I am playing some 16 gauge natural gut with 18 gauge Timo crosses right now. I've got about 6 hours on it and it's still playing fine. I haven't noticed any degradation in performance or tension. Would I rate it considerably higher than my normal "cheap" set up? Probably not, but it is a nice change.
 

tomato123

Semi-Pro
I am playing some 16 gauge natural gut with 18 gauge Timo crosses right now. I've got about 6 hours on it and it's still playing fine. I haven't noticed any degradation in performance or tension. Would I rate it considerably higher than my normal "cheap" set up? Probably not, but it is a nice change.
Thanks, 16g main and 18g crosses is also what I’m using, and interestingly enough, I have another racquet with 16g lux gut and 18g max power - also known to be relatively stiff and low powered - with the same tension and racquet specs, and the max power cross setup feels powerful after spending a month with timo. At 1.10mm we’re practically at dental floss thinness but it seems like that really brings the power level down a whole lot and helps with spin to some degree. Also makes a really nice crispy sound on contact. I could also see why people don’t like it in full bed and report arm problems, and I probably would only use it as a cross to natural gut.
 

dnguyen

Hall of Fame
@Rabbit -

I'm not sure if you ever used Timo with natural gut, but I am currently using the 18 timo with lux gut and found it to be superb for control and spin, and taming the natural gut's power. I'm going on about 8-10 hours so far with the setup, and I was wondering if the tension loss isn't as bad when you use it in a hybrid? I saw that people have said Timo tends to lose tension and playability rather quickly, but I have not yet noticed anything drastic up to this point. I also use an 18x20. So I am trying to figure out if the tension loss has already occurred and settled, or if at some point there is going to be a big drop in tension/performance at some point if I start to go into 15-20 hour territory. If you used this hybrid before, do you find that the timo performs well with natural gut until the gut breaks?

Thanks!
I used 1.30mm vs gut at mains with 48lbs and 1.10mm timo at crosses with 43lbs. I’m using a Fischer vacuum pro 90.
 
Is there curently any similar interesting sale ( as was mentioned in Dec 2018 by TW ) on Luxilon/Wilson Natural Gut ? :) Me and my painful wrist would like to try the NG and its silky touch on my arm ! :)
 
@Tennis Dave CZ I would recommend Klip Natural gut to you if you want to try gut and not mortgage the house. You can buy a half set for $16.99.

https://www.tennis-warehouse.com/KlipString.html
Thanks for the tip. As I suffer from long term wrists pain, I would like to try a full bed of NG to test, how much better for my wrists, in comparison with multi strings ( tried Yonex Multi Sensa ), it is. That´s why I am now looking for some sale full sets of NG string as Wilson or Luxilon NG.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Thanks for the tip. As I suffer from long term wrists pain, I would like to try a full bed of NG to test, how much better for my wrists, in comparison with multi strings ( tried Yonex Multi Sensa ), it is. That´s why I am now looking for some sale full sets of NG string as Wilson or Luxilon NG.
IMO, and others will disagree, the softest playing NGs are Babolat (any as they only really have one) & Pacific Prime. The firmer guts like Lux allow you to string looser (about 5 pounds) to enhance feel and comfort.

Good luck
 
IMO, and others will disagree, the softest playing NGs are Babolat (any as they only really have one) & Pacific Prime. The firmer guts like Lux allow you to string looser (about 5 pounds) to enhance feel and comfort.

Good luck
Ok, thanks. I hope I can try the Babolat NG as well. As I have understood from various threads about strings: NG should be a class softer/more comfortable for the arm/wrist than any non-NG string; LXN/Wilson NG should belong to the top of NGs on the market (?); Babolat NG quality went down last years (?). So the conclusion for me is: to try all :) and see, what suits my wrists and game best :). Howgh :))).
 
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