Luxilon Natural Gut beats old wilson NG!!!

Lambsscroll

Hall of Fame
I have been hitting with Luxilon NG and I am impressed. For a few years now I have been using the older wilson NG in the mains and was happy. But as many of you know wilson changed their gut. The new stuff has less feel and power. But I am happy to say Luxilon NG is a nice replacement and then some. Luxilon is similar in power, softness and feel as the old wilson NG but it seems I get more spin from the Luxilon NG. By the way Pacific Prime gut Orange Bull is okay, better than Babolat VS PT7 but both of those are not as good as Luxilon.
 

scotus

G.O.A.T.
I have been hitting with Luxilon NG and I am impressed. For a few years now I have been using the older wilson NG in the mains and was happy. But as many of you know wilson changed their gut. The new stuff has less feel and power. But I am happy to say Luxilon NG is a nice replacement and then some. Luxilon is similar in power, softness and feel as the old wilson NG but it seems I get more spin from the Luxilon NG. By the way Pacific Prime gut Orange Bull is okay, better than Babolat VS PT7 but both of those are not as good as Luxilon.
That's probably because the older Wilson was very similar to the classic VS except its coating was not as slippery. If you look at the lab data, you will see that the Wilson natural gut has some serious string-to-string friction. That means you'd get the feel and performance of the classic VS except the spin would be somewhat lacking.

Luxilon natural gut is probably the best gut out there now. I'm glad I still have my stockpile of classic VS, which I still consider the best of them all.
 
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2HBH-DTL

Guest
I'm still sticking to the VS because I can buy them in half sets.
 

mctennis

Legend
I used a set of the Luxilon NG and was impressed as well. I do not like the Babolat NG with the BT 7 stuff they are using. No feel and touch as with their older pre BT 7 gut strings. I stopped using Babolat NG even though everyone uses this as the gut gold standard. I do have a set of the Wilson NG before they switched over to the newer gut recipe.
The gut I did like using was Pacific Prime gut. I used Pacific Tough gut for a long while but the Pacific Prime gut seems to have a better feel and playability to me. Then I found out Luxilon was coming out with NG. I thought I might as well try it. So far, so good. I will see how long it lasts and maybe the Luxilon will be my next go-to gut string. It is cheaper than the Pacific Prime gut, for now. The Pacific Prime gut has gotten way too expensive and has priced me out of using it. Not sure why these gut prices have gotten so high.
 

Hotrocks

Rookie
I used a set of the Luxilon NG and was impressed as well. I do not like the Babolat NG with the BT 7 stuff they are using. No feel and touch as with their older pre BT 7 gut strings. I stopped using Babolat NG even though everyone uses this as the gut gold standard. I do have a set of the Wilson NG before they switched over to the newer gut recipe.
The gut I did like using was Pacific Prime gut. I used Pacific Tough gut for a long while but the Pacific Prime gut seems to have a better feel and playability to me. Then I found out Luxilon was coming out with NG. I thought I might as well try it. So far, so good. I will see how long it lasts and maybe the Luxilon will be my next go-to gut string. It is cheaper than the Pacific Prime gut, for now. The Pacific Prime gut has gotten way too expensive and has priced me out of using it. Not sure why these gut prices have gotten so high.
mctennis- Couldn't agree with you more!!! Ever since Babolat went to BT7, I stopped purchasing there gut strings! I have tried Pacific Classis, Klip Legend and the new Lux, happy with all of them, as they feel and play like "Gut"!
 

mctennis

Legend
mctennis- Couldn't agree with you more!!! Ever since Babolat went to BT7, I stopped purchasing there gut strings! I have tried Pacific Classis, Klip Legend and the new Lux, happy with all of them, as they feel and play like "Gut"!
I agree with you. These other guts you mentioned actually play and feel like gut should. Kudos!!!
 

jim e

Legend
I have been hitting with Luxilon NG and I am impressed. For a few years now I have been using the older wilson NG in the mains and was happy. But as many of you know wilson changed their gut. The new stuff has less feel and power. But I am happy to say Luxilon NG is a nice replacement and then some. Luxilon is similar in power, softness and feel as the old wilson NG but it seems I get more spin from the Luxilon NG. By the way Pacific Prime gut Orange Bull is okay, better than Babolat VS PT7 but both of those are not as good as Luxilon.
I disagree as I used the older Wilson gut for a long time as all gut no hybrid set up, and luxilon is not as soft as the older wilson gut .
No doubt that the Luxilon is a firmer hit not as soft as the older Wilson, but I do like the Luxilon as it gives more control.The Luxilon is now my go to gut string.The luxilon is also very durable for a nat. gut string. The durability is most likely from the extra coating on the string, as the Luxilon I assume was intended for hybrid use along with more durability, but that comes at the expense of cutting down more of the soft feel. That coating I would assume also makes the string a little more less prone to kink the string while stringing it up in comparison to other gut strings.
I still have over a dozen sets of the older Wilson as that was my string, as my gut customers are primarily VS gut hitters or Pacific Tough gut hitters along with Klip Legend gut uncoated.
I will most likely use up the older Wilson gut by hybrid that string with the Luxilon gut.
BTW, a former poster here commented a # of years back the when he opened up a set of the now older Wilson nat. gut it was marked VS on the string, so evidently the old Wilson was the same as the old VS gut.After a while it will not matter as both older VS and older Wilson are now history.
 
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jim e

Legend
Luxilon gut is now same as Wislon gut? (or Wislon gut is BT7 VS?)
Luxilon natural gut differs from the now newer Wilson nat. gut in that it has an extra wrap for hybrid use. That’s also why the string comes with a green mark on the center of the string so it can be easily identified to cut for hybrid use without having to measure it. Many of the newer strings are rough and can eat through a nat. gut string, so the extra wrap will increase durability.
 

ultradr

Legend
Luxilon natural gut differs from the now newer Wilson nat. gut in that it has an extra wrap for hybrid use. That’s also why the string comes with a green mark on the center of the string so it can be easily identified to cut for hybrid use without having to measure it. Many of the newer strings are rough and can eat through a nat. gut string, so the extra wrap will increase durability.
Wilson gut is still Babolat eom or not? Thanks.

Note: I still have original VS (pre-BT7) but it's now down to 7 sets.;)
 

ultradr

Legend
I'm using the VS gut in my hybrid setup and like it. Not sure what y'all are talking about lol.
Hmm, last time i tried BT7 VS like 3 years ago, it was gabbage.
Unless they did something on it last 3 years, this new VS with smaller number of thread(BT7) should be priced like a value gut, IMHO.
(well a bit better than value gut but not by much. not as dynamically resiliant like original VS and bottoms out quick like a value gut).
 

Fintft

Legend
I read the reviews on TW and it seems that Luxilon gut has less power and less feel than the VS, so what do you guys say?
 

aaron_h27

Professional
Luxilon NG is pretty good, I'm not sure what the numbers are for the 1.30 version as it's not listed on TW University. But for 1.25 Luxilon Gut they show a 82 softness rating and 3.7 spin potential. Which is similar to Pacific Prime Orange Bull which has a 74 softness rating and 3.0 spin potential. Luxilon Gut has lasted me over 30 hours too playing 4.5-5-0 level.
 

mctennis

Legend
Hmm, last time i tried BT7 VS like 3 years ago, it was gabbage.
Unless they did something on it last 3 years, this new VS with smaller number of thread(BT7) should be priced like a value gut, IMHO.
(well a bit better than value gut but not by much. not as dynamically resiliant like original VS and bottoms out quick like a value gut).
I agree with you BT7 is absolute garbage gut strings. I tried it twice to make sure the first horrible time was a fluke. Nope, it is not a gut string with putting in my racquet.
 

IowaGuy

Hall of Fame
Luxilon NG is pretty good, I'm not sure what the numbers are for the 1.30 version as it's not listed on TW University. But for 1.25 Luxilon Gut they show a 82 softness rating and 3.7 spin potential. Which is similar to Pacific Prime Orange Bull which has a 74 softness rating and 3.0 spin potential. Luxilon Gut has lasted me over 30 hours too playing 4.5-5-0 level.
@aaron_h27 - are you using Lux gut full bed or in a hybrid?
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
I have been hitting with Luxilon NG and I am impressed. For a few years now I have been using the older wilson NG in the mains and was happy. But as many of you know wilson changed their gut. The new stuff has less feel and power. But I am happy to say Luxilon NG is a nice replacement and then some. Luxilon is similar in power, softness and feel as the old wilson NG but it seems I get more spin from the Luxilon NG. By the way Pacific Prime gut Orange Bull is okay, better than Babolat VS PT7 but both of those are not as good as Luxilon.
If it gives you as much spin as the Luxilon alu power rough, then I will buy it.
 

stephenclown

Professional
Babolat gut works great for me in a hybrid.
Opinions are like u know what... everyone got one
I agree, my BT7 works fine in hybrids. It has a slight break in time but after that it plays very plush, controlled and comfortable. I enjoyed Wilsons old gut in full bed but hybrid I see no point for more expensive options.
 

aaron_h27

Professional
@aaron_h27 - are you using Lux gut full bed or in a hybrid?
full bed, I easily have over 30 hours on the 1.25 and there's BARELY any notching. I don't know if this stuff would ever break. It has the most spin of all the natural gut's ive tried. I think the spin could rival some poly's but of course you'd have to string it tighter. The 1.30 version i found to be a bit stiff for a NG, but great control and great spin also.

I'm about to cut mine out though because I didn't string it tight enough. I did 62 lbs in a DR 98 with the Luxilon 1.25, I need to go up to 66-67 lbs so it can be playable until it breaks. This gut is very powerful IMO. I think the power level is on par with BT7 maybe even more powerful.

Another thing with the Luxilon gut is that the strings seem to stay in place like a hybrid does but in a full bed.

It's a really great gut!
 

hurworld

Hall of Fame
full bed, I easily have over 30 hours on the 1.25 and there's BARELY any notching. I don't know if this stuff would ever break. It has the most spin of all the natural gut's ive tried. I think the spin could rival some poly's but of course you'd have to string it tighter. The 1.30 version i found to be a bit stiff for a NG, but great control and great spin also.

I'm about to cut mine out though because I didn't string it tight enough. I did 62 lbs in a DR 98 with the Luxilon 1.25, I need to go up to 66-67 lbs so it can be playable until it breaks. This gut is very powerful IMO. I think the power level is on par with BT7 maybe even more powerful.

Another thing with the Luxilon gut is that the strings seem to stay in place like a hybrid does but in a full bed.

It's a really great gut!
Did you pre-stretch or ask your stringer to pre-stretch the NG string?
 

aaron_h27

Professional
I have been testing the old wilson gut and I think I do prefer the luxilon. It is a bit stiffer but you can swing out more. I may return the 10 packs of old wilson I have and just use Luxilon. Unless someone would like to buy them up! Haha
 

comeback

Hall of Fame
full bed, I easily have over 30 hours on the 1.25 and there's BARELY any notching. I don't know if this stuff would ever break. It has the most spin of all the natural gut's ive tried. I think the spin could rival some poly's but of course you'd have to string it tighter. The 1.30 version i found to be a bit stiff for a NG, but great control and great spin also.

I'm about to cut mine out though because I didn't string it tight enough. I did 62 lbs in a DR 98 with the Luxilon 1.25, I need to go up to 66-67 lbs so it can be playable until it breaks. This gut is very powerful IMO. I think the power level is on par with BT7 maybe even more powerful.

Another thing with the Luxilon gut is that the strings seem to stay in place like a hybrid does but in a full bed.

It's a really great gut!
hey Aaron, i also use Lux NG 125 in my mains but use Ashaway ZX pro17 in the crosses..i get great durability and spin..But i never tried Lux NG full bed...i wonder if the spin is even better with Lux NG in a full bed?
 

aaron_h27

Professional
hey Aaron, i also use Lux NG 125 in my mains but use Ashaway ZX pro17 in the crosses..i get great durability and spin..But i never tried Lux NG full bed...i wonder if the spin is even better with Lux NG in a full bed?
possibly, but to compensate for the power you'll have to string it a lot tighter which will make the sweetspot smaller, everything is a trade off i guess

Sounds interesting!

Is the stringbed locked up, or do the strings move around during a hitting session?
The strings stay in place like a hybrid for me (snapback), with the old wilson gut the strings move around more and i have to adjust them
 

aaron_h27

Professional
I agree with the OP, this was my post in the other natural gut thread regarding luxilon gut vs old wilson NG

Ok cool played with Luxilon gut 1.30 today after hitting with the old wilson gut 1.30 (pre-bt7) for about a month.

in my opinion the luxilon gut is a better gut. It's lower powered which i actually like because i don't have to string it super tight & offers more access to spin than the old wilson. It is a bit more powerful than a multi but still controllable. the wilson hits a bit softer but has to be strung tighter so in a way the softness is about the same as you can go 3-4 lbs lower with the luxilon. Luxilon gut is more of a modern playing natural gut, where as someone who hits flat may prefer the old wilson. Luxilon gut is perfect for me because i am primarily a baseliner, i don't like to string super tight and i don't want to use poly. Great string. The Luxilon gut just gives you that extra confidence to swing out as compared to the old wilson. I played a match today and had much more groundstroke winners compared to normal. This is a keeper for me.
 

comeback

Hall of Fame
I agree with the OP, this was my post in the other natural gut thread regarding luxilon gut vs old wilson NG

Ok cool played with Luxilon gut 1.30 today after hitting with the old wilson gut 1.30 (pre-bt7) for about a month.

in my opinion the luxilon gut is a better gut. It's lower powered which i actually like because i don't have to string it super tight & offers more access to spin than the old wilson. It is a bit more powerful than a multi but still controllable. the wilson hits a bit softer but has to be strung tighter so in a way the softness is about the same as you can go 3-4 lbs lower with the luxilon. Luxilon gut is more of a modern playing natural gut, where as someone who hits flat may prefer the old wilson. Luxilon gut is perfect for me because i am primarily a baseliner, i don't like to string super tight and i don't want to use poly. Great string. The Luxilon gut just gives you that extra confidence to swing out as compared to the old wilson. I played a match today and had much more groundstroke winners compared to normal. This is a keeper for me.
Great Aaron, you said in a previous post you strung 62lbs but next time will do 66-67...is that still the case?..also do you string the crosses lower? ps..my racket is an spin effect open pattern 16x15 Wilson Steam105s
 
I hit with lux NG 16 for the first time today and it’s my favorite gut currently on the market. I’ve been using Babolat VS touch religiously for years, and the new coating has taken away a lot of the feel and plushness for me. The Lux felt lively, super responsive, crisp, and like everything I’ve been missing from VS touch since BT7. I just made a bulk lux order and don’t think I’ll be switching back anytime soon! I string with gut mains and alu rough crosses.


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aaron_h27

Professional
Great Aaron, you said in a previous post you strung 62lbs but next time will do 66-67...is that still the case?..also do you string the crosses lower? ps..my racket is an spin effect open pattern 16x15 Wilson Steam105s
I was speaking about the 1.25 gauge when i mentioned that, but I am currently using the 1.30 version now at 58 lbs.

I haven't tried stringing the crosses lower as i've been switching strings a lot, but now that im sold on the luxilon gut 1.30 i will try lowering my crosses 2 lbs in the future and see what it does.

since your racket has a very open pattern you definitely want to get the 1.30 version and perhaps string it in the 60s to tame the power of that.
 

dnguyen

Hall of Fame
I hit with lux NG 16 for the first time today and it’s my favorite gut currently on the market. I’ve been using Babolat VS touch religiously for years, and the new coating has taken away a lot of the feel and plushness for me. The Lux felt lively, super responsive, crisp, and like everything I’ve been missing from VS touch since BT7. I just made a bulk lux order and don’t think I’ll be switching back anytime soon! I string with gut mains and alu rough crosses.


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Can you tell us which one has more power? VS or Lux?
 
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