Discussion in 'Strings' started by TW Staff, Nov 8, 2011.
i felt like that the volleys were slow and had no pace but the serve had some spin but no power
I'm a TB user and just got my Lux sample today.
Quick question: why did you string up the Lux at 53 as opposed to your usual 49 with the TB?
If you had it to do again would you drop the tension on the Lux?
I usually do my TB at 54/52 and was wondering if I should go the same with the Lux.
Strung Lux Green today. Very easy stringjob. For any more info look at pvaudio's post. Strung 58/58 in a APDC. Will hit either tomorrow or sunday.
Got my green Lux today gonna string up the BLX 90 sometime this weekend full and have a review done by end of next week at the latest. school -__-
Well, actually this was my first time trying TB down to 49. I was really playtesting two different tensions/strings for the first time. I've been wanting to try TB in the 40s for awhile now and I usually string it in the mid 50s, but I finally got around to stringing one to 49. So it's just strange timing. 53 is closer to what I normally use.
Luxilon Playtest String 2011
Stringing: Definitely an atypical Luxilon offering. This strung up almost as easily as a WeissCANNON or MSV poly. Its profile may have something to do with it, but it has a strange feeling even going through the grommets. It's like a rifled barrel vs. smooth bore. This stuff has zero resistance whatsoever going through grommet holes. For something that trivial it means it's pretty noticeable if I bother to mention it. While doing the crosses, they simply glide across one another. No friction at all. Knots were super easy, and simply typical left fingertip soreness from weaving polyester. Stringing this stuff makes Adrenaline look like PSGD and ALU Rough would be Maxim Touch in comparison. Honestly, it simply wove like an easy poly. Did not feel stiff in the hand, typical coil memory, but zero problems in untangling as it simply didn't get tangled. In my experience, that is not the Luxilon way. Strung at 47/47.
Groundstrokes: I will not waste your time by giving my detailed analysis of every sort of shot that this string produces. I also won't waste your time in telling you how much I think it should be priced at. I definitely won't waste your time in suggesting what type of player would benefit from this string. Why? Let me put it like this with zero hyperbole: this is the worst polyester string I have ever played with. I am playing the best tennis of my life right now, and even during short-court warmup, the strings had that characteristic Luxilon dead feeling. No power, no feel, nothing. Off the baseline, there was no power on any wing. I was working so hard to get the ball over the net that it became tiring just trying to adapt to it. I switched immediately to my normal gut/CoFocus. Instead of balls going into the bottom of the net, they were getting stuck into the net because they were so heavy. That's typical of my groundstrokes these days. With the gut/CoFocus, I can swing out and let the spin do the work for me. With this orange Lux, I could swing my arm off and the ball would do absolutely nothing for me. On both wings, I actually really liked the Spin Cycle string from the previous Wilson/Lux playtest. This should not even have come from the same place, and the Spin Cycle string is just average-good. Cliff-notes: no power, no feel, unpredictable response, no control since the ball doesn't go anywhere.
Serves: I need my serve to be heavy. If it's not moving with pace and spin, then it's not "on". No matter what I tried, this orange stuff couldn't get me anywhere. It seriously feels like stringing ALU at 65lbs: just wooden feeling.
Volleys: Do I have to bother if there's no feel on the groundstrokes?
Durability: Perhaps this is my fault then. Maybe, just maybe, this stuff needs to break in. So, with that said, I will call this my preliminary review. It's not notching, strings are still snapping back, and definitely hasn't gone dead. We'll just see.
If you don't know me by now, I truly feel that it's important to give my 100% honest opinion when it comes to the things I'm passionate about. This string is the reason that I have not once ever recommended a Luxilon offering to one of my stringing clients. I've only strung it if they've specifically requested it (as I do stock it, knowing people will want it) or have brought it to be strung. In a word, this poly is frustrating. It simply makes shots harder to pull off. It's not harsh like ALU nor inherently stiff. It simply feels dead. That's the only way I can describe it. Even strung in the high 47s, this stuff felt dead. My hitting partner even asked me why I wasn't putting the same amount of pace on my shots as I normally do. Trust me, I was trying. As soon as I switched to my go-to setup, I was back. Here is my caveat: I am an all-court player with a large serve. That's it. I don't counter-punch, play defensively, serve and volley or even retrieve. I just play the ball where it is, and put it where I think it needs to be to set up the point. Nothing fancy. With this poly, good luck on a running forehand or backhand. I hate to sound so negative, but I truly did not care for this in the slightest, especially considering I did rather like the white poly we were sent last week to playtest. Kinder cliff-notes: I'll play it again to see if it breaks in. However, if it plays this poorly for 2 hours, then it's not worth any break-in period in the first place.
Just strung my racket with it at 45 pounds will hit and post a review by weekends end.
slices just floated and had no pace on them, so it was easy to get to them
Received the gold color string, color is golden, silkish, pearl.
Feels like a 17 gauge 1.25mm, putting this on the prostaff tour 95 16x19.
I'm an all court player with a one handed backhand and a big forehand. can hit with monster spin but can also flatten it out when need be. can break a co-poly in 2-3hr if I wanted to.
String tension - 57lbs, I prefer to use the same racquet and same tension to test out different strings, this way I get a better feel for how one string compares to another.
Off the bat, this feels like a high quality string. Texture feels nice and smooth while stringing, elasticity is medium to stiff.
Weaving the cross is a pleasure, so easy and smooth! I agree with most of the posts here that this stuff just glides, I'm impressed!
Typically a string this smooth equals excellent spin potential in my experience because of the snap back, we'll see when I take it out for a hit tomorrow. Will report back soon!
Got the Golden Strings today.
Can't wait to string it
Greenish strings came today! Stringing it up soon and will report
oh man, i sure hope the green one plays better than the Gold one. Not looking good for gold one so far.
I love when people use metrics like this to define how good a player they are where there are 5.0-5.5s out there playing full syn gut and not restringing daily. I say that because I know of at least 4, one of whom is a former professional and coaches me.
And yes Fedace, I hope so too. Before I started doing all of my hybrid stuff, I played full poly for years. It's the majority of what I sell and the majority of what I end up playtesting actually (if I decide to add something to the inventory). This golden thing strung like magic, and unless you need to speak softly and use a bigger stick when on the court, it plays terribly. Not kidding when I say it's the worst poly I've used. I once strung TiMo at 63lbs full bed (well, I had it strung since I was a junior at the time) and this stuff played just as terribly at 47 lbs.
Recieved the green set. I'll try to string it up Monday.
OMG the string just came in and i just broke a string, luxilon and tennis warehouse you have perfect timing.
I just strung up the golden string. I'm less than impressed so far...
Hey, maybe this is like BB that is aimed at mass market. Poly that is made cheap so lots of people will be able to afford it. IF i ever this string, i was going to Demo it during a LIVE league match. but now i am having 2nd thoughts...:???:
i received the yellow string and looked long and hard at it. i was unable to see or feel any facets. mine appears to be a round soft monofilament copoly. it was very easy to string up but did have quite a bit of coil memory. i strung it up in my Vantage BC20 using a 1 piece ATW pattern at 52/49.5. normally last few crosses at the throat, the final main and the final cross at the head are hard to weave and pull through due to the hard weaves. with stiff polys, this can cause some raw fingers. this was one of the easiest if not the easiest copolys i've strung.
contrary to the other experiences, i liked this string in general after a 2 hr hitting session so far. in the BC20, it was softer than what i normally prefer given that the BC20 is a very soft racquet w/ an RA rating of 50.
spin production was pretty good for a poly. slightly less than the far stiffer solinco tour bite. but there were plenty of topspin groundstrokes that dropped in when i thought they might be long. depth control and power was very good. slices were good, not super biting after bouncing, but some were the skidding type staying really low after the bounce. i felt the strength of this string was the control and comfort. the ball went where i was aiming it and it wasn't harsh. my shoulder and wrist will immediately complain when it comes to stiff strings. touch and feel were pretty good. i didn't spend much time volleying at the net but the few i hit were ok. i had a few low approach volley attempts and was able to effortlessly place them deep in the corner i was aiming for. in the BC20, i prefer the feel of IonTec; it's a bit crisper and seems to hit a slightly heavier ball w/ more pace while offering a bit more feel. overall, this is the best feeling luxilon string in my experience. depending on the price, i'd consider it in stiffer racquets. i can see this string possibly mating up well in the PS 6.0 85.
i'll keep playing to see how it performs in the tension maintenance department. i don't break poly so i imagine durability won't be an issue.
try it for yourself. don't rely on others impressions. i read the impressions by others and was pleasantly surprised how much i enjoyed the string.
I'm confused. Is this a different play test format? In the past, all comments and reviews were to be held back until the end of the play test period, so as not to influence others in the sample. No instructions were issued, but that is the usual protocol.
yeah, usually they provide specific instructions not to share comments. i assumed the lack of instructions meant that we were free to share comments and impressions.
my point is that if you signed up and received a sample, you should string it up and test it for yourself. don't be influenced by a few negative reviews because you might experience something completely different.
TW, is anyone Moderating here? Please chime in.
I believe for this test, all you need to do is fill out the survey found on the sticker.
I played with it for two hours today, and it broke. A real disappointment. I'll post a full review of it tomorrow..
Yeah guys, this thread is for our feedback only. You need to actually visit the link on the package. For the gold, it is:
Broke in 2 hours ?? That is less than RPM blast. and i thought RPM broke easily........TW,,,I am still Waiting for the STring,,,guys.
I will string it full bed and use it in a LIVE match........Gimme a break here..
Just completed the survey. My thoughts echoed PVAudio's thoughts. String was underpowered, and touch shots were dismal to be nice. In the end however, if they could update this making it a little softer and more powerful, i could see myself using the string, but i dont think id pay the luxilon price for this. It for sure isn't up there with alu power
What happened here ? Luxilon produced a Fail. This is not like them. I really can't think of one string that is bad or awful in Luxilon lineup. Sure, some strings are better than other in their catalogue. I can't think of One poly that is a Fail like this. this is not like them
I don't even like Luxilon poly and I agree. They're very tension temperamental, but even ALU has a very unique feeling to it. Ace does as well, TiMo is just strange and Fluoro I think is the odd man out since it doesn't really feel like a Luxilon string. Regardless, as long as you string at the proper tension, they do generate power. I do not like the feel as they just feel lifeless, but they do generate plenty of power. Their newer offerings i.e. Savage and Adrenaline are fairly generic feeling, but they aren't actually terrible strings. I do not like them, much like I do not like MSV CoFocus Hex even though my go-to string is MSV CoFocus. But they still are playable for the right person. This gold stuff just felt like some garbage you'd buy on e Bay for no money. Seriously, it just felt cheaply made. Strung up wonderfully, played worse than even the worst 1st gen polys e.g. Super Smash.
Different people have different opinions
I just strung mine today at 51lbs (Gold), had a little coil memory but nothing to severe. The string itself feels similar to BB Original. Didn't get a chance to hit with it today, it's going to rain tomorrow in So Cal, but I'm looking forward to hitting with it soon.
Here's some pictures so I don't leave you guys hanging.
Yay I got mine today! It's green/yellow; I haven't strung it yet, as all my frames are strung already.
I tried out the greenish string today, here is my opinion:
This string is very lively and powerful. I enjoyed it at net. Serves had nice pop and kick when i needed it. For me the only downside was that from the baseline it was a little too powerful. I had trouble controlling shots, which isn't a huge problem for me, since I like to be at net. Overall, a very nice string. The only thing it needs in my opinion is something to tone it down.
I thought the string was alright. The shots and serves had ok spin but not enough steam behind it. Most of the shots had no pace on them and just floated. I rate it a 4/10 thats just my opinion
Hit with green string tonight...
Racquet: dunlop 4d 300 tour leaded to 343/340 Sw
Tension m: 55 x: 53
Power is pretty good it is quite lively for a poly elastic like... Control was less impressive partly because of slightly lower spin production than I'm used to. That said it was manageable I just need more time with it to feel comfortable swinging out. Overall I enjoyed this string and would probably test a couple more sets if it does become available...
Luxilon is a subcompany of wilson.
no he knows that, he just thought it was for the 2nd wilson playtest.
Just strung up green stuff. I'll play with it tomorrow.
Luxilon Green String Playtest 2011
Seeing as pvaudio got the gold string, and did his typical review, I took the honor to do the same for the green string.
Stringing: This was very annoying to string. Kinks would not come out while weaving the crosses, and blocked holes needed plenty of encouragement. I strung it at 52 lbs, and on a klippermate, it took plenty of time.
Ground Strokes Let me say straight up that if I could restring it again, I would string it a little bit tighter, because it was a very powerful stringbed. And that would be okay if the string naturally provided spin. But it didn't, and i hit with a western forehand. To really get bite on the ball, I needed to go all out on my shots. But when I went all out on the those shots, I hit outright winners. It similar to beast xp in the sense that the harder you swing, the better results you get. On the backhand side, which is a lot flatter than my forehand, I got great results. There was nice power, and control for when I wanted to pull the trigger.
Serves: Serves had power, but I couldn't really control them, due to the lack of spin. They landed slightly long most of the time, and I couldn't get a lot of kick on them. One of my best kick serves went about shoulder high. I usually hit them a lot higher. All in all, nothing really special.
Volleys: This is where I loved these strings. There was tremendous feel. I play doubles every weekend, so I know good feel from bad. These had a nice, solid feel, where putting away volleys was second nature. I also had nice touch, and hit some angles that I thought were impossible. I felt very comfortable at net, something that I greatly appreciated. Very good string for a doubles player, or a serve and volleyer.
Verdict: I don't like giving strings a rating. A rating is subjective to the play tester. Instead, I like to see if I would recommend the string. For this "Green String" it's a sad story. I would not recommend it. I think that if a rough version was made, it would be worth another test. Also, knowing that Luxilon strings are overpriced, I would not consider buying it.
Let me know what you all think!! Questions encouraged!
^^ that's the gold string...
Actually... I got a set of the green string. It looks yellow with a slight green tint. Plus it says on the package which one it is...
It looks very similar to the gold in the pictures but he's right, it's the greenish one.
love the pure storm
Yeah, I just compared the colors in photoshop. It's just that the white balances are different. I exaggerated mine towards blue in my photos to get more detail about the ridges, and his is shifted further towards red (likely due to the 300T's color). His string's color definitely has a higher color temp aka greener.
Yeah. Its the green, as the package says. It is a pretty nasty color. Nothing goes well with it.
pvaudio - how did I do on the review?
A man after my own heart! If that's a good thing, I don't know lol :lol:
Are they for sure gonna release these strings or is this playtest going to decide if they release them or go back to the drawing board?
does anybody know what the special offer is??
Got my gold setup so I'm looking forward to stringing up and testing.
Alrighty, here are my thoughts of the string.
I played for about 4 hours this weekend on hard courts with Wilson US Open balls. There was slight humidity also.
Stringing: Overall I didn't like it at all, the string kinked and was very slick between my fingers. Of course I was using a Gamma X-2 stringer so that could have had some effect to it. Strung it at 45 pounds one piece.
Ground strokes: My first impression was, this string is super low powered. Defensively my forehands and backhands landed short and with not much spin(I use a semi-western grip). I felt like I really needed to punch through the ball to get aggressive pace on the ball, but when I did it was pin point accuracy and very enjoyable. Backhands had awesome control and I was able to comfortably gauge how much depth I wanted on my shots.
Spin wise the string is very curious. It doesn't impart much spin but enough to be noticeable and controllable.
Serve: Not too impressive, the spin on my kick were eh as well as the power and pace. Nothing incredible here.
Return of Serve: The best part of this string for me was that it took pace off of serves and I was able to gauge where the ball could go. Not bad at all.
Volleys: Eh, the downside of this string for me was here. The feel of the string was like that of WeissCannon Scorpion...just when it goes dead. Not very enjoyable in touch shots either, the feel just wasn't there for me.
Overall this string is ok, nothing special but nothing too terrible. I am assuming that Luxilon is trying to move into a more control low powered string, so if you can rip the ball and know how to gauge your power you might enjoy this string. I would give this string a 6.5 out of 10. Just not my cup of tea.
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