Madrid 2017 R3: Rafael Nadal vs Nick Kyrgios

Nick or Rafa?


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    69
Nick be like

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I actually think Rafa played better than Kyrgios in general at Wimbledon, especially the last 3 sets but Kyrgios played the big points better and that was the difference. If Kyrgios serves well it will always be a close contest no matter who you are, it comes down to taking those few opportunities you get.
Erm... you see, the problem is that Kyrgios serve is somewhat neutralized by the clay surface. That seems to be one factor why he couldn't hurt Rafa when compared to Grass which is a faster surface.
 
What a prediction! Keep up the good work! ;) Nadal's cumbersome movement? :confused:

P.S. I thought Kyrgios would do better vs Nadal than he did.

yeah, there was only one guy out there with cumbersome movement

at this point many here just want to be the first to predict the first clay court loss for Nadal...so just keep picking him to lose and if he does you're finally right :)
 
Woah....didn't expect such a beatdown. Couldn't watch it because it was pretty late at night and just watched th highlights. Rafa waw extremely sharm especially the ROS. Kyrgios was pretty average but it hardly mattered in the end. If Nadal can keep up this form, I think he'll beat Djokovic in SF and clinch the title.

Btw if Rafa wins today's match he'll be #1 in the race :)
 
Hehe
Nick is playing doubles too, he cant be that injured.
Yeah. I know match was a big let down for many (not for me) and it looked to me at times that Kyrgios is not putting as much effort. But if you see the 6th game of second set (the only game which he won in second set) you would not feel there was any lack of efforts from Kyrgios. Also there was a rally with multiple drops which Kyrgios ended up winning. I think Kyrgios approach towards the match had lot to do with the level Rafa was playing. He hit as series of breathtaking down the line forehand winners which landed right in the corner and no player in the world would have reached. So many of his winners were just around the lines. It becomes difficult for opposite player to keep morale high when one is playing like that.
 
Woah....didn't expect such a beatdown. Couldn't watch it because it was pretty late at night and just watched th highlights. Rafa waw extremely sharm especially the ROS. Kyrgios was pretty average but it hardly mattered in the end. If Nadal can keep up this form, I think he'll beat Djokovic in SF and clinch the title.
That's an extremely mild way to put it (least we 'forget' that Djokovic first has to win against Nishikori, which at this point isn't exactly set-in-stone):
I think Rafa will no less than butcher Djok, should both indeed manage to reach the semifinal.

Btw if Rafa wins today's match he'll be #1 in the race :)
Yep, and it's very much deserved, to see how well he's been doing right from the start of this season.

Him reaching no less than four finals on HC should have been a clear sign of things to come, that surface being his 'worst', and having done zilch on it the past couple of years.
Rafa is BACK - to at least 90% of his abilities - and I've been calling this for a couple of months already now. ;)

This season is panning out to become very, very interesting in regards to who will end up as the YE #1.
 
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Come on, don't be delusional. Nick wasn't playing anywhere near his best, i.e. the way he did vs Federer in Miami for instance but even if he did I'm not sure he would have defeated Nadal. Anyways we'll never know. The question now is can Goffin or Djokovic/Nishikori beat Nadal on clay?

But was Nick clowning around? Some of you are so disappointed that that Rafa gave him a Master Class that you are scratching looking for mitigating circumstances to make excuses for Nick.
 
Erm... you see, the problem is that Kyrgios serve is somewhat neutralized by the clay surface. That seems to be one factor why he couldn't hurt Rafa when compared to Grass which is a faster surface.

Sorry, but there was nothing on his serve, regardless of the clay. The guy could hit 22 aces against Fed on this very same court. He can hit 130/140s regularly, didn't see that yesterday.
 
It looked that way. He tends to give up if he feels he is not healthy. He's had this hip issue since the US Open last year.

I first noticed it at 1-2 nick serving 15 all. He hit a backhand into the net, turned and winced and grabbed his hip. After that point, he played well and gave effort, but he kept shaking his head even when he was winning points and generalling moping around the court even after he broke back. His hip was definitely an issue. Maybe he didn't call the trainer because he knows the trainer can't do anything about it, but why is he still playing doubles. Is he? Weird. Forget the no coach. He absolutely needs a physio. I mean what top athlete just leaves his body to chance in that way? Sure we know he doesn't have discipline for doing drills and what not, but his body is his equipment, and I don't even think he knows or has someone counseling him on how to rehabilitate an injury and prevent future ones. You just knew he was going to have issues with that posture. If he doesn't address it, he will end up like Raonic, the glass golem.
 
But was Nick clowning around? Some of you are so disappointed that that Rafa gave him a Master Class that you are scratching looking for mitigating circumstances to make excuses for Nick.

Yes, I would say Nick was partially clowning around. He admitted in his post match interview that he wasn't really ready for this match and didn't practice much due to his grandfather's death. With that said, if you step on the court you are fit to play so his excuses are BS. It's his job as a professional tennis player to get himself ready and to give his best in every match. He unfortunately hasn't received that memo. Nadal played very well though and even if Nick gave it his all and played well, I doubt he would have defeated Nadal on clay.
 
I didn't have time to post today, but I read some of the thread last night before the match and was surprised so many people were picking Kyrgios. I'm a fan of his and was hoping he would win but wasn't expecting it. Rafa is the King of Clay and he's unbeaten on the surface this season. A player would need a perfect preparation to have a chance of beating him, and attending your grandfather's funeral on the other side of the world hardly qualifies as that. I know Rafa wasn't looking good against Fognini but he did enough to get through, and Kyrgios wasn't looking great against Baghdatis either.

What I'm really disappointed about is that it wasn't even a competitive match. I was hoping for another match like the one vs Fed in Miami but it was not to be. I do think he gave up early in that first set. If he hadn't, I think he still would have lost but the scoreline would have been more respectable.

ETA: This makes it even more likely Rafa will win as Kyrgios has lost to the winner in every tournament this year after the Aus Open.
 
Yes, I would say Nick was partially clowning around. He admitted in his post match interview that he wasn't really ready for this match and didn't practice much due to his grandfather's death. With that said, if you step on the court you are fit to play so his excuses are BS. It's his job as a professional tennis player to get himself ready and to give his best in every match. He unfortunately hasn't received that memo. Nadal played very well though and even if Nick gave it his all and played well, I doubt he would have defeated Nadal on clay.

You gotta admire Nadal's work ethics, though. No matter what the scoreline says, he goes on with his business, dead serious. His attitude on the court should really be inspiring the likes of Kyrgios and Tomic.
 
Just noticed the poll results with Kyrgios being the overwhelming favorite before the start of the match... Over Rafa... On clay...

What kind of forum is this actually?:confused::(
 
You gotta admire Nadal's work ethics, though. No matter what the scoreline says, he goes on with his business, dead serious. His attitude on the court should really be inspiring the likes of Kyrgios and Tomic.
Most definitely, and I think that may well be one of the main reasons why Fed apparently likes Nadal as much as he does, despite being his main party-pooper on - at least - the clay. :)
 
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