Madrid final 2025: Ruud - Draper

Ruud - Draper; who blinks first?

  • Ruud in straights

    Votes: 4 8.5%
  • Draper in straights

    Votes: 16 34.0%
  • Ruud in three

    Votes: 14 29.8%
  • Draper in three

    Votes: 13 27.7%

  • Total voters
    47

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Ruud won't face a Cerundolo consumed and petrified by the inherent pressure of a high stake match here, he'll have to up his level considerably to trouble Draper, or pray for a massive Draper's meltdown but I don't foresee such an outcome. IMO Jack's FH can really bully Casper's BH here.
 
This could be a make or break match for Ruud’s career. He is on his favorite surface. He is not facing Sinner or Alcaraz. It is his best chance to win a big tournament. Draper is playing well, but if Ruud can’t beat him on clay, it probably puts an end to Ruud’s dreams of winning multiple big titles in the future.
 
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This could be a make or break match for Ruud’s career. He is on his favorite surface. He is not facing Sinner or Alcaraz. It is his best chance to win a big tournament. Draper is playing well, but if Ruud can’t beat him on clay, it probably puts ann end to Ruud’s dreams of winning multiple big titles in the future.

Ruud has been struggling - really struggling - for a long time. He realised he has mental issues and worked on it. And he has managed to turn things around, and is starting to enjoy playing matches again. I think he is super happy to reach a final and knows Draper is the biggest in-form player on the tour at the moment. Win or lose, Madrid has been a HUGE step forward for Ruud.

Draper looks incredibly strong and should be a real contender everywhere the way he is playing now.
 
Draper heavily favoured here:unsure:. Sure, he won IW, but lost R1 Miami. This is clay and he lost to Davidovich-Fokina R3 at Monte Carlo. Cant see why he should be such a big fav vs Ruud on clay. Although Casper often struggles vs this kind of player on HC, he usually handles them well on clay.
 
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Casper is my guy but Draper is next level right now at this current event. He might lose a set but he’s not losing the title.
Ruud’s chance; win a set and make it a physical battle. He has excellent wheels.

Agree Draper has been on a different level en route.

Odds: Draper; 1.42. Ruud; 2.40
 
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2016 I can understand as Djokovic, Murray and Wawrinka were in their peaks. But 2017 onwards is when it changed back to Fedal and we saw the change.

2017 was not a bad year by any means. Federer and Nadal were playing at a high level and Wawrinka, Dmitrov, Thiem and Cilic played better than the 2018-23 worthless generation.
 
2017 was not a bad year by any means. Federer and Nadal were playing at a high level and Wawrinka, Dmitrov, Thiem and Cilic played better than the 2018-23 worthless generation.

And there we have it. The double standards. You might as well just say in every thread - "Look, I cannot stomach Djokovic winning the slam race, he has ruined tennis for me, my idol Federer should have won, and I am not going to hide behind double standards to justify my pain."

At least you get credit for owning it and being honest.
 
Man, even in this match thread you cannot get over Djokovic overtaking Federer.

At least show some balance and include 2017, but of course you won't.

Is that poster not a Djokovic fan?

They keep using the phrase "our Djokovic/Nole". Legitimately had me fooled if that's not the case.
 
Is that poster not a Djokovic fan?

They keep using the phrase "our Djokovic/Nole". Legitimately had me fooled if that's not the case.

He has Djokovic on his mind a lot, but he's no Djokovic fan.

He's a hardcore Federer fan, who username is a troll account name to mock Djokovic unable to get that 13 slam back in 2018. The irony is, that really didn't work out so well.

Now, I get it with the threads in GPPD, but why bring your frustrations into a match final thread that has nothing to do with Djokovic? It's showing how hard it is to cope for some. He basically is resenting Ruud for being unable to stop Djokovic's rampage into the record books.

This could be the biggest win of Ruud's career, and that guy deserves a big title, he just has to go out an earn it, but Draper will be very hard to stop.
 
Draper joins Murray as 1 of 2 British finalists in Madrid (Murray played back to back finals 2015-16). Ruud makes his 3rd Masters final and 2nd on clay (most recently 2024 Monte Carlo). Draper is looking for a 2nd Masters title in just 2 months and 1st on clay. Ruud is looking for his maiden Masters title and thus avoid the fate of fellow former top #10ers Nishikori and Raonic who never managed to land one. Nishikori came close at 2014 Madrid but was forced to retire when up a set against Nadal.
 
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He has Djokovic on his mind a lot, but he's no Djokovic fan.

He's a hardcore Federer fan, who username is a troll account name to mock Djokovic unable to get that 13 slam back in 2018. The irony is, that really didn't work out so well.

Now, I get it with the threads in GPPD, but why bring your frustrations into a match final thread that has nothing to do with Djokovic? It's showing how hard it is to cope for some. He basically is resenting Ruud for being unable to stop Djokovic's rampage into the record books.

This could be the biggest win of Ruud's career, and that guy deserves a big title, he just has to go out an earn it, but Draper will be very hard to stop.
Why is there no action taken against such members ? They are not violating any rules on the board then the rules need to be changed.
 
And there we have it. The double standards. You might as well just say in every thread - "Look, I cannot stomach Djokovic winning the slam race, he has ruined tennis for me, my idol Federer should have won, and I am not going to hide behind double standards to justify my pain."

At least you get credit for owning it and being honest.

If the answer does not work in Djokovic’s favor, you are always upset.

Nothing changes
 
If the answer does not work in Djokovic’s favor, you are always upset.

Nothing changes

Yeah, the thing upsetting me is not that you decided to bring your bitterness for Djokovic into a match thread that has nothing to do with him.
 
Yeah, the thing upsetting me is not that you decided to bring your bitterness for Djokovic into a match thread that has nothing to do with him.

Please read the thread . I mentioned weak 2018-23 generation and didn’t mention Djokovic . You seemed guilty and defensive
 
Please read the thread . I mentioned weak 2018-23 generation and didn’t mention Djokovic . You seemed guilty and defensive

You know exactly what you are doing, because constantly crapping on that time frame to help you deal with the reality that Djokovic overtook Federer is what you have been doing.

But come on man, at least keep your bitterness out of big final match threads in which he doesn't play. It's sad that you have allowed Djokovic to do this much emotional damage to you, while the guy who you are hurting for is enjoying a billionaire lifestyle and couldn't care less. Let it go dude, its been over for years now.
 
I am very excited. Two relatively overlooked but nevertheless strong players finally squaring off. There are no real stakes or slam implications. It’s just a battle of wills.

Who will establish themselves as a key part of their era?
 
Emotionally uninvolved I expect Draper to win the 1st set, then let´s see who the stronger player is on the day.
 
Draper looks set to be on top of the game or thereabout for the foreseeable future. Excellent player, but I guess most of us expected that of him. Just need to see how he fares at slams, but he looks solid.
 
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