Madrid Masters Prediction League! (Fourth in Series) Try it if u haven't already

VivalaVida

Banned
1. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) vs Andy MURRAY (GBR) - Murray 2/0
2. James BLAKE (USA) vs Roger FEDERER (SUI) - Federer 2/0
3. Rafael NADAL (ESP) vs Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) - Nadal 2/0
4/Roddick (USA) vs Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS) - Roddick 2/1
5. Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) vs Andreas SEPPI (ITA) - Djokovic 2/0
6. Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) - Verdasco 2/1
7. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) vs Giles Simon (FRA) - Ljubicic 2/1
8. Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) - Del Potro in 3
 
THURSDAY'S MATCHES:

1. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) vs Andy MURRAY (GBR) - Murray in 2
2. James BLAKE (USA) vs Roger FEDERER (SUI) - Blake in 3
3. Rafael NADAL (ESP) vs Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) - Nadal in 2
4. Andy Roddick (USA) whatever...vs Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS) - Davydenko in 2
5. Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) vs Andreas SEPPI (ITA) - Djokovic in 2
6. Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) - Verdasco in 3
7. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) vs Giles Simon (FRA) - Simon in 3
8. Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) - Wawrinka in 2
 

aphex

Banned
Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) vs Andy MURRAY (GBR) - Robredo in 2
2. James BLAKE (USA) vs Roger FEDERER (SUI) - Federer in 2
3. Rafael NADAL (ESP) vs Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) - Nadal in 2
4. Tommy HAAS (GER) or Roddick (USA) whatever...vs Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS) - Davydenko in 3
5. Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) vs Andreas SEPPI (ITA) - Djokovic in 2
6. Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) - monaco in 2
7. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) vs Giles Simon (FRA) - Ljubicic in 2
8. Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) - Wawrinka in 3
 

RoddickAce

Hall of Fame
1. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) vs Andy MURRAY (GBR) - Murray: 2-0
2. James BLAKE (USA) vs Roger FEDERER (SUI) - Federer: 2-1
3. Rafael NADAL (ESP) vs Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) - Nadal: 2-0
4. Andy Roddick (USA) vs Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS) - Roddick: 2-1
5. Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) vs Andreas SEPPI (ITA) - Djokovic: 2-0
6. Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) - Verdasco: 2-0
7. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) vs Giles Simon (FRA) - Ljubicic: 2-1
8. Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) - Del Potro: 2-0
 

seffina

G.O.A.T.
1. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) vs Andy MURRAY (GBR) - Robredo in 3
2. James BLAKE (USA) vs Roger FEDERER (SUI) - Federer in 2
3. Rafael NADAL (ESP) vs Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) - Nadal in 2
4. Andy Roddick (USA) vs Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS) - Davydenko in 2
5. Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) vs Andreas SEPPI (ITA) - Djokovic in 2
6. Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) - Verdasco in 3
7. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) vs Giles Simon (FRA) - Simon in 3
8. Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) - Wawrinka in 2

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STANDINGS:
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The Greatness Scale:
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gj011

Banned
THURSDAY'S MATCHES:

1. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) vs Andy MURRAY (GBR) - Murray in 3
2. James BLAKE (USA) vs Roger FEDERER (SUI) - Blake in 3
3. Rafael NADAL (ESP) vs Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) - Nadal in 2
4. Andy Roddick (USA) vs Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS) - Davydenko in 2
5. Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) vs Andreas SEPPI (ITA) - Djokovic in 2
6. Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) - Verdasco in 2
7. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) vs Giles Simon (FRA) - Simon in 2
8. Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) - Del Potro in 3
 

gj011

Banned
1. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) vs Andy MURRAY (GBR) - Robredo in 3
2. James BLAKE (USA) vs Roger FEDERER (SUI) - Federer in 2
3. Rafael NADAL (ESP) vs Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) - Nadal in 2
4. Andy Roddick (USA) vs Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS) - Davydenko in 2
5. Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) vs Andreas SEPPI (ITA) - Djokovic in 2
6. Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) - Verdasco in 3
7. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) vs Giles Simon (FRA) - Simon in 3
8. Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) - Wawrinka in 2

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STANDINGS:
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The Greatness Scale:
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First time ever I got the highest score for the day :) If only Haas won that third set :mad:
 
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Safinator_1

Professional
1. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) vs Andy MURRAY (GBR) - Murray 2/0
2. James BLAKE (USA) vs Roger FEDERER (SUI) - Federer 2/0
3. Rafael NADAL (ESP) vs Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) - Nadal 2/0
4. Roddick (USA) vs Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS) - Davydenko 2/1
5. Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) vs Andreas SEPPI (ITA) - Djokovic 2/0
6. Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) - Verdasco 2/1
7. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) vs Giles Simon (FRA) - Ljubicic 2/0
8. Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) - Wawrinka 2/1
 

JoshDragon

Hall of Fame
1. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) vs Andy MURRAY (GBR) - Murray in 3
2. James BLAKE (USA) vs Roger FEDERER (SUI) - Federer in 2
3. Rafael NADAL (ESP) vs Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) - Nadal in 2
4. Andy Roddick (USA) vs Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS) - Davydenko in 2
5. Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) vs Andreas SEPPI (ITA) - Djokovic in 2
6. Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) - Verdasco in 2
7. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) vs Giles Simon (FRA) - Simon in 2
8. Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) - Wawrinka in 3
 

egn

Hall of Fame
1. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) vs Andy MURRAY (GBR) - Robredo in 3
2. James BLAKE (USA) vs Roger FEDERER (SUI) - Federer in 2
3. Rafael NADAL (ESP) vs Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) - Nadal in 2
4. Andy Roddick (USA) vs Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS) - Davydenko in 2
5. Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) vs Andreas SEPPI (ITA) - Djokovic in 2
6. Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) - Verdasco in 3
7. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) vs Giles Simon (FRA) - Simon in 3
8. Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) - Wawrinka in 3
 

oscar_2424

Legend
1. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) vs Andy MURRAY (GBR) - Robredo in 3
2. James BLAKE (USA) vs Roger FEDERER (SUI) - Federer in 2
3. Rafael NADAL (ESP) vs Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) - Nadal in 2
4. Andy Roddick (USA) vs Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS) - Roddick in 3
5. Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) vs Andreas SEPPI (ITA) - Djokovic in 2
6. Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) - Monaco in 3
7. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) vs Giles Simon (FRA) - Simon in 3
8. Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) - del Potro in 3 sets
 

slicekick95

Semi-Pro
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1. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) vs Andy MURRAY (GBR) - Murray in 2
2. James BLAKE (USA) vs Roger FEDERER (SUI) - Federer in 2
3. Rafael NADAL (ESP) vs Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) - Nadal in 2
4. Andy Roddick (USA) vs Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS) - Davydenko in 3
5. Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) vs Andreas SEPPI (ITA) - Djokovic in 2
6. Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) - Monaco in 3
7. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) vs Giles Simon (FRA) - Ljubicic in 3
8. Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) - Wawrinka in 3
 

theduh

Semi-Pro
1. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) vs Andy MURRAY (GBR) - Robredo in 3
2. James BLAKE (USA) vs Roger FEDERER (SUI) - Federer in 2
3. Rafael NADAL (ESP) vs Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) - Nadal in 2
4. Andy Roddick (USA) vs Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS) - Davydenko in 2
5. Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) vs Andreas SEPPI (ITA) - Djokovic in 2
6. Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) - Verdasco in 2
7. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) vs Giles Simon (FRA) - Simon in 3
8. Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) - Wawrinka in 2
 

theduh

Semi-Pro
Oh noes! I can't believe that I'm going down the rankings. Hope i can do well after the clay court season.
 

MizunoMX20

Rookie
1. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) vs Andy MURRAY (GBR) - Robredo in 3
2. James BLAKE (USA) vs Roger FEDERER (SUI) - Federer in 2
3. Rafael NADAL (ESP) vs Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) - Nadal in 2
4. Andy Roddick (USA) vs Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS) - Davydenko in 2
5. Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) vs Andreas SEPPI (ITA) - Djokovic in 2
6. Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) - Monaco in 3
7. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) vs Giles Simon (FRA) - Simon in 3
8. Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) - Wawrinka in 3
 

JayChu

Hall of Fame
MURRAY over ROBREDO in 3
FEDERER over BLAKE in 2
NADAL over KOHLSCHREIBER in 2
RODDICK over DAVYDENKO in 3
DJOKOVIC over SEPPI in 2
VERDASCO over MONACO in 3
SIMON over LJUBICIC in 3
DEL POTRO over WAWRINKA in 3
 

Chelsea_Kiwi

Hall of Fame
THURSDAY'S MATCHES:

1. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) vs Andy MURRAY (GBR) - Murray in 3
2. James BLAKE (USA) vs Roger FEDERER (SUI) - Federer in 2
3. Rafael NADAL (ESP) vs Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) - Nadal in 2
4. Andy Roddick (USA) vs Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS) - Davydenko in 2
5. Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) vs Andreas SEPPI (ITA) - Djokovic in 2
6. Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) - Verdasco in 3
7. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) vs Giles Simon (FRA) - Simon in 3
8. Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) - Wawrinka in 3
 

Love Game

Talk Tennis Guru
Thursday - Part 1


Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) vs Andy MURRAY (GBR)
Robredo in 3
Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI)
Del Potro in 3
James BLAKE (USA) vs Roger FEDERER (SUI)
Federer in 2
Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) vs Andreas SEPPI (ITA)
Djokovic in 2
Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP)
Monaco in 3

 

Chelsea_Kiwi

Hall of Fame
Thursday - Part 1


Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) vs Andy MURRAY (GBR)
Robredo in 3
Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI)
Del Potro in 3
James BLAKE (USA) vs Roger FEDERER (SUI)
Federer in 2
Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) vs Andreas SEPPI (ITA)
Djokovic in 2
Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP)
Monaco in 3


Do you realise you haven't done all the matches?
 

shadows

Legend
1. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) vs Andy MURRAY (GBR) - Murray in 3
2. James BLAKE (USA) vs Roger FEDERER (SUI) - Federer in 2
3. Rafael NADAL (ESP) vs Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) - Nadal in 2
4. Andy Roddick (USA) vs Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS) - Davydenko in 3
5. Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) vs Andreas SEPPI (ITA) - Djokovic in 2
6. Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) - Verdasco in 3
7. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) vs Giles Simon (FRA) - Lubo in 3
8. Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) - Wawrinka in 3
 

aphex

Banned
1. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) vs Andy MURRAY (GBR) - robredo in 2
2. James BLAKE (USA) vs Roger FEDERER (SUI) - Federer in 2
3. Rafael NADAL (ESP) vs Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) - Nadal in 2
4. Andy Roddick (USA) vs Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS) - roddick in 3
5. Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) vs Andreas SEPPI (ITA) - Djokovic in 2
6. Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) - Monaco in 3
7. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) vs Giles Simon (FRA) - Ljubicic in 2
8. Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) - Wawrinka in 2
 

FlamEnemY

Hall of Fame
1. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) vs Andy MURRAY (GBR) - Murray in 3
2. James BLAKE (USA) vs Roger FEDERER (SUI) - Federer in 2
3. Rafael NADAL (ESP) vs Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) - Nadal in 2
4. Andy Roddick (USA) vs Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS) - Davydenko in 2
5. Novak DJOKOVIC (SRB) vs Andreas SEPPI (ITA) - Djokovic in 2
6. Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) - Monaco in 3
7. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) vs Giles Simon (FRA) - Lubo in 3
8. Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) vs Stanislas WAWRINKA (SUI) - Wawrinka in 3
The bolded matches are taking place atm, so they shouldn't be counted. The rest are yet to be played.
 

Love Game

Talk Tennis Guru
Thursday -- Part 2

Rafael NADAL (ESP) vs Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER)
Nadal in 2
Andy Roddick (USA) vs Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS)
Roddick in 2.
Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) vs Giles Simon (FRA)
Ljubicic in 3.
 

seffina

G.O.A.T.
Hmm... I don't know. I think the match should just be dropped and not counted towards scores. The Nadal one wouldn't matter anyways as I'm sure everyone probably picked Nadal in two.

lol yeah i know just wondering if this will kill my lead :p
Why would it? It'll affect everyone equally.

Also, if it was go count, then obviously Love's predictions wouldn't count since she made them after the W/O were announced. In that case the policy should be changed to all of your predictions before the first match starts.
 
I agree and hope so since I've counted the previous retirements that way. Whoever was won match in however many sets had been played when the retirement occurred.

Yeah, its best to apply common sense in these circumstances.

Yet again, i stand in close proximity of first place lol .. fed up of second now! I need an outstanding day's play to really cement a charge for first place.
 
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I don't think it should count. Also would you make it 2 or 3 sets victory?

It shouldn't really be counted as they didn't get a chance to even step on to court, saying that Nadal's w/o victory proveskind of irrelvant anyway, no one dared to believe he'd lose a set.
 

seffina

G.O.A.T.
Yeah, its best to apply common sense in these circumstances.

Yet again, i stand in close proximity of first place lol .. fed up of second now! I need an outstanding day's play to really cement a charge for first place.
I'm having a bad day, so I'll probably drop a lot today. :( Hope I can make up some ground. And good lord that last sentence I posted in the quoted text makes no sense at all.

It shouldn't really be counted as they didn't get a chance to even step on to court, saying that Nadal's w/o victory proveskind of irrelvant anyway, no one dared to believe he'd lose a set.
Exactly. The Roddick/Davydenko match obviously could have hurt or helped people, but it's not a prediction if the match didn't even happen!
 

seffina

G.O.A.T.
Are we the only people who picked Roddick?:)
edit: nope, other people actually picked Roddick too O_O

Do you guys really? I guess we can have people vote on it then if there's a disagreement. I have no problem not getting the prediction right, I just don't think in the future it'll work out well. Sometimes w/o happen before play has started and some have made predictions and others haven't. Then would we really count those people who made the predictions? It's up to everyone.
 

shadows

Legend
I think W/O should be void personally, there's no tennis been played, it's just unlucky happenstance that's decided things. As mentioned it also creates some logistical problems
 

RoddickAce

Hall of Fame
Do you guys really? I guess we can have people vote on it then if there's a disagreement. I have no problem not getting the prediction right, I just don't think in the future it'll work out well. Sometimes w/o happen before play has started and some have made predictions and others haven't. Then would we really count those people who made the predictions? It's up to everyone.

I don't really mind, it's only two points anyway since the "set number" was wrong anyway.
 

aphex

Banned
i have another idea for future leagues...

i think now there's too much weight placed on the earlier rounds just because
there are too many games...

i think there should be a progressive weighting scale as the tournament advances...

what does everyone think?
 

seffina

G.O.A.T.
i have another idea for future leagues...

i think now there's too much weight placed on the earlier rounds just because
there are too many games...

i think there should be a progressive weighting scale as the tournament advances...

what does everyone think?

We discussed this during the first one, I believe, and it was decided that it's not any harder (and is actually easier) to pick the later matches than the early matches. But I'm willing to go along with 10/6 for the final and 8/4 for the semis or something like that.
 

Chelsea_Kiwi

Hall of Fame
I think W/O should be void personally, there's no tennis been played, it's just unlucky happenstance that's decided things. As mentioned it also creates some logistical problems
Seconded though will this apply for retirements like half-way during a match regardless of who is leading?
 
I'm having a bad day, so I'll probably drop a lot today. :( Hope I can make up some ground. And good lord that last sentence I posted in the quoted text makes no sense at all.


Exactly. The Roddick/Davydenko match obviously could have hurt or helped people, but it's not a prediction if the match didn't even happen!

Yup. Who's to say he would've won anyway? Davydenko is much the better play on clay court, considering his movement, consistency and track record on the surface.
 
We discussed this during the first one, I believe, and it was decided that it's not any harder (and is actually easier) to pick the later matches than the early matches. But I'm willing to go along with 10/6 for the final and 8/4 for the semis or something like that.

I really can't see why increasing the points won for correctly predicting matches in latter stages of tournaments is necessary or fair.

Take this tournament for instance: Predicting the winning of a final on clay between Nadal and Federer or Nadal and Djokovic is in no way deservant of 10/6 points, especially when your comparing that to getting 5/2 points from predicting the outcome of a Wawrinka v Del Potro match. Its just not reflectant on a player's knowledge and intuitive understanding of the game.

My point is any Tom, Dick and Harry can tell the Semi final's are almost certainly going to be contested between Nadal, Federer, Murray and Djokovic... with the possibility of Verdasco or Del Potro causing a not all that suprising upset. Its the matches between the player's ranked outside the top 10 that people struggle with.
 

seffina

G.O.A.T.
I know and I'm fine with the current system as well. As I said, I'm not against it either. Doesn't make a difference to me. However, I do agree what you say is fairer. In the draw challenge and such, you get more points for the later rounds because you're making predictions before the tourny starts. So if you make it all the way and still have those players, it's worth the extra points. Here, we make them hours before the match after we've seen them play and adapt to the surface.

*rudely pokes seffi to do a quick tally <3

Just a sec. I actually have to start teaching a class soon (as a TA) and have to turn in my syllabus before 4:30.
 
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seffina

G.O.A.T.
ooh intense, what kind of class!
It's just an intro to geology lab. Nothing too exciting. Apparently I don't know enough for more.

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shadows

Legend
It's just an intro to geology lab. Nothing too exciting. Apparently I don't know enough for more.

geology eh, neat! Is teaching the chosen career path then? ^^


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it's getting close up there, though safinator has a good gap! Maybe time to try for a few upsets.
 

shadows

Legend
No, no interest in really teaching. The TAing helps pay for the grad school. I want to go work for the big stinking oil companies instead. :)

Haha, fair enough =p

Any form of plan sounds good to me anyway, I'm entirely clueless as to what to do once I graduate in a month or so xD
 
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