Madrid Masters QF: [1] Carlos Alcaraz vs. [13] Alexander Zverev

Who is your pick to win?

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dking68 said:
Yup same. I still see Sinner having the edge over him if he develops a more potent serve. I’m surprised a guy of his size has achieved so much. Sinner will overpower him when he comes into his own
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Sinner is years light away of achieving what alcaraz has achieved, open your eyes man, height? You really give so much importance to that? Watch how this guy is playing! Very few in history have delivered such level
 
Slicehand said:
Sinner is years light away of achieving what alcaraz has achieved, open your eyes man, height? You really give so much importance to that? Watch how this guy is playing! Very few in history have delivered such level
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I don’t think he’s that far away actually. I think the glass ceiling is going to break very soon and when it breaks, it’s gonna break big. Cahill has been doing an excellent job, I just see Sinner having a bigger game. He may not have the variety, but his game is bigger IMO especially on a fast surface
 
Slicehand said:
If you dont see the player alcaraz is im assuming you havnt watched a lot of tennis in your life
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He lost a clay final. To Norrie. I'm not blind to Alcaraz's talent but he's not Big 3 scary and never will be. There are players talking about saying he's some mythical returner but these players are not exactly swimming in talent themselves so ofcourse they would say that, Like I saw someone mention a Dan Evan's comment on him.

If in 5 years and he's swept 10+ slams then I'll gladly hang my head in defeat and accept that I was wrong but I really really don't see it yet.
 
Djokovic2011 said:
Very disappointing match. Alcaraz was great but Zverev's forehand was atrocious.
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Paire level FH today

with the next genies Alcaraz looks crazy good but peak top 3 ATGs he aint yet as Rusuovori a second level version of Sinner was close to straight setting him.
Norrie would never beat the ATG 3 even in their current low injured level would have issues. Either way prefer to watch Raz than many others due to power, passion, speed and variety
 
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Sampras-Bruguera 1993 said:
Never seen a generation regress as they head into their supposed peak years like that loser gen of Zverev, Med, tstsipas. LOL. Somehow someway they managed to get worse from their early 20s. Damndest thing I’ve ever seen
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I don’t want to get down on Zverev because it’s very hard to come back from that bad of an injury, when he was on the upswing in slams at least.
 
Terenigma said:
He lost a clay final. To Norrie. I'm not blind to Alcaraz's talent but he's not Big 3 scary and never will be. There are players talking about saying he's some mythical returner but these players are not exactly swimming in talent themselves so ofcourse they would say that, Like I saw someone mention a Dan Evan's comment on him.

If in 5 years and he's swept 10+ slams then I'll gladly hang my head in defeat and accept that I was wrong but I really really don't see it yet.
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His success is dependent on how well Sinner develops his serve. If Sinner had even gotten 10% more serves in that QF match they had last year, I can guarantee you he would’ve been slam less and Sinner instead would’ve lifted the trophy.
 
Until his mind doesnt follow the strokes no matter how hard he hits that ball man, he will overpower a lot of players, but moment of truth in big matches require more than just power, idont dislike sinner, i just see clearly the reason why he is "underachieving" i too think it will improve eventually, but carlos head in the big moments is the real game changer, also how many options he has, the moment sinner cant overpower someone, he rarely wins
 
Terenigma said:
He lost a clay final. To Norrie. I'm not blind to Alcaraz's talent but he's not Big 3 scary and never will be. There are players talking about saying he's some mythical returner but these players are not exactly swimming in talent themselves so ofcourse they would say that, Like I saw someone mention a Dan Evan's comment on him.

If in 5 years and he's swept 10+ slams then I'll gladly hang my head in defeat and accept that I was wrong but I really really don't see it yet.
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Lol did you watch that match?? He almost won just walking at the end xD, you probably didnt watch it, if not you wouldnt mention it
 
Terenigma said:
He lost a clay final. To Norrie. I'm not blind to Alcaraz's talent but he's not Big 3 scary and never will be. There are players talking about saying he's some mythical returner but these players are not exactly swimming in talent themselves so ofcourse they would say that, Like I saw someone mention a Dan Evan's comment on him.

If in 5 years and he's swept 10+ slams then I'll gladly hang my head in defeat and accept that I was wrong but I really really don't see it yet.
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10+ slams is light work bro. Rune and Sinner will be getting enough runner up plates to open up a restaurant.
 
Terenigma said:
He lost a clay final. To Norrie. I'm not blind to Alcaraz's talent but he's not Big 3 scary and never will be. There are players talking about saying he's some mythical returner but these players are not exactly swimming in talent themselves so ofcourse they would say that, Like I saw someone mention a Dan Evan's comment on him.

If in 5 years and he's swept 10+ slams then I'll gladly hang my head in defeat and accept that I was wrong but I really really don't see it yet.
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Maybe you could have mentioned that Alcaraz was injured from the second set onwards against Norrie, even a blind person could see that.
 
Terenigma said:
He lost a clay final. To Norrie. I'm not blind to Alcaraz's talent but he's not Big 3 scary and never will be. There are players talking about saying he's some mythical returner but these players are not exactly swimming in talent themselves so ofcourse they would say that, Like I saw someone mention a Dan Evan's comment on him.

If in 5 years and he's swept 10+ slams then I'll gladly hang my head in defeat and accept that I was wrong but I really really don't see it yet.
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He was clearly injured against Norrie. He is like 25-2 this season, that's absurdly good.
 
Sinner appears to be the only one to challenge Carlos in the future. It’s gonna be a bad tour. Clearly the previous gen is done. They’re a lost cause. Maybe djokovic for a year or two will stop him but that’s it
 
Trip said:
I'm inclined to think so as well, but it's encouraging hearing someone else echo it. I often wonder about a peak Thiem as well, or is that still a level below prime Fed/Wawa?
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Surely you jest. Peak clay Fed beats Alcaraz easily. Watch Rome 2006 final.
 
Terenigma said:
Despite this beat down I still just don't see this mighty unbeatable monster in Alcaraz that everyone else seems to see. He's going to win more slams for sure but I still think he's beatable. Hell, Karen might even beat him next round.
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There hasn't ever been an unbeatable player. ATGs at their absolute peaks have lost. These guys play sport. Even the great ones lose sometimes.
 
BeatlesFan said:
You desperately need to join us at #ABZ and such predictions will not continue to occur. ;)
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I'm full #ABZ, still with Zverev you sometimes don't know. If he has a good day where he serves great, he finds some good groundstrokes as well, he can be tough to beat, unfortunately.
I do like your enthuasiasm in recruiting new members though!
 
dking68 said:
Would Alcaraz have won a slam if Sinner had served better in their QF match at the USO?
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Doesnt work that way, its like if i say, would sinner have taken the second set had alcaraz not sent a couple of backhands into the net, its nosense man, he couldnt close that match because alcaraz stayed in there when he was playing worse and ended up playing amazing, whats his excuse agaisnt djokovic at wimbledon? And against med at miami final? You should realise its nosense what you are saying, how would alcaraz do with isners serve? How would hurckaz do if he had better forehand? Its the same, why should sinner have a better serve? Its clearly not one of his atributes, why do you even give for granted what would happen then? Just pure nosense, anyway good luck with your logic, ill go with the things that actually happened
 
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Zverev got his tailed whooped today and that forehand was atrocious. Some were were barely halfway up the net. His window of becoming a Slam champ is getting narrower and narrower and he already fears Alcaraz.
 
Slicehand said:
It’s crazy how easily people forget how crazy peak fed was
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It’s almost unbelievable anyone would mention Alcaraz in the same breath as Fed, even on clay. Carlos will never face anyone with the variety of Roger or the ability to effortlessly hit any shot.
 
Krish0608 said:
Carlos is who Zverev thinks he is
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