Maestronians be honest :)

#1
How do you really feel/what do you expect and are you truly satisfied if he loses?



Too many threads I don't have time for all that. #TellMe :D

 
#4
How do you really feel/what do you expect and are you truly satisfied if he loses?



Too many threads I don't have time for all that. #TellMe :D

No, this time I won't be satisfited with just the semi. Fed proved he can trust in his talent and can defeat Rafa in 2017. If he is the goat, he should beat Rafa even at RG. Rafa is slow now and no bad matchup now and Fed improved fitness, so no fitness edge.

And Fed is supposed to be more talented and more technical, so without fitness and mental and techincal edge Rafa should lose even at RG.

So, if I truly believe Fed is the goat, I expect him to win this, no excuses. I'm sick of Fed fans being weak and going half there. I'm willing to risk it all, life is too damn short. I totally expect Fed to win this.

Age, matchup fitness, clay god, most is just noise and mental, Fed has the shots and the fitness to do it.

So, yeah if Fed doesn't win, I will start to doubt his goat status, so be it. I'm totally ready for backlash if he loses. At least I'm willing to risk it, this is what champions should do and I know Fed feels the same.
 
#7
If it's a straight forward loss , nah not one bit regretful.

If it's pure and proper beat down , okay We still made the semis after 3 years no big deal.


If Fraud somehow , somehow creates millions of genuine chances and then bottles it in his vintage style then I might end up having severe anger management issues for next 2-3 days.
 
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#9
No, this time I won't be satisfited with just the semi. Fed proved he can trust in his talent and can defeat Rafa in 2017. If he is the goat, he should beat Rafa even at RG. Rafa is slow now and no bad matchup now and Fed improved fitness, so no fitness edge.

And Fed is supposed to be more talented and more technical, so without fitness and mental and techincal edge Rafa should lose even at RG.

So, if I truly believe Fed is the goat, I expect him to win this, no excuses. I'm sick of Fed fans being weak and going half there. I'm willing to risk it all, life is too damn short. I totally expect Fed to win this.

Age, matchup fitness, clay god, most is just noise and mental, Fed has the shots and the fitness to do it.

So, yeah if Fed doesn't win, I will start to doubt his goat status, so be it. I'm totally ready for backlash if he loses. At least I'm willing to risk it, this is what champions should do and I know Fed feels the same.
Dude, you are so full of crap lol
 
#15
You’re posting on a message board, bro—you’re not risking anything.
Because in real life I don't care what people think about me neither my friends because I know more about my life than them. But here I know people know more about tennis than myself, so their opinion matters to me and I care more emotionally about it, so it's a risk for me.

I would rather break my leg than admit Lew is right, that is the biggest fear in life to admit that someone like Lew knows something more than I know.

Risk is because I'm very emotionally invested. It's subjective, maybe you don't see it, but maybe something that is risky for you, it's casual for me.

Don't know why, but even approaching women is easier than to live in a world when Lew is right. :).
 
#16
If it's a straight forward loss , nah not one bit regretful.

If it's pure and proper beat down , okay We still made the semis after 3 years no big deal.


If Fraud somehow , somehow creates millions of genuine chances and then bottles it in his vintage style. I might end up having severe anger management issues for next 2-3 days.
This. If he ends up actually generating an actual chance of victory from nothing and then channels his inner Dimitrov, well that's just plain inconsiderate.

Even though they would be a sign of unexpected competitiveness, I am NOT looking forward to any tiebreaks.
 
#19
Every Fed defeat hurts. But I can console myself for Fed reaching SF and losing only to King of Clay. Even if he creates opportunities, it is going to be difficult for him to convert them into victory against Rafa on Clay.
 
#20
Won't be happy/satisfied with Fed losing to Nadal, don't see how that will ever change.

I expect a relatively straightforward Nadal win, probably in 4 sets. Similar to most of their FO meetings.
I believe Fed is technically superior, so he should win. If not, I'm wrong and maybe he isn't the goat.
 
#22
I'm not a maestronian but this French Open is now so perfectly poised that I will be happy regardless of who wins. On the men's side it has been the most enjoyable major in a long, long time.

As a fan of the clay game it has been a joy to watch Roger ply his trade the last two weeks. I've missed him on clay.

Federer has such a high tennis IQ. Watching him figure opponents out on a surface that demands so much in terms of point construction has been a highlight for me.

At the start of the event I think I had Djokovic favourite, with Federer 2nd favourite, then Nadal. After the Nishikori match, I have Nadal and Djokovic as co-favourites and Federer 2nd. But that doesn't come anywhere close to describing how dangerous Federer potentially is (far more so than any normal "2nd favourite").

Really, anyone from Thiem, Zverev, Federer, Nadal or Djokovic could win and I would find it significant, and a great way to end the tourney.
 
#23
If Fed loses I will be a bit disappointed but whatev. I'd probably root for Nadal against Djoker in the final the way I'm feeling now.

If Fed wins it will be amazing.
Depends on how he does it. If he goes down without a fight I will be mad. He needs to grind and extend points and grunt. Sort of like AO 17 mentality, I will do anything even if I can't walk for three months. No this BS of trying to be healthy for grass. It's now or never, Rafa has this kind of mentality.
 
#24
I'm not a maestronian but this French Open is now so perfectly poised that I will be happy regardless of who wins. On the men's side it has been the most enjoyable major in a long, long time.

As a fan of the clay game it has been a joy to watch Roger ply his trade the last two weeks. I've missed him on clay.

Federer has such a high tennis IQ. Watching him figure opponents out on a surface that demands so much in terms of point construction has been a highlight for me.

At the start of the event I think I had Djokovic favourite, with Federer 2nd favourite, then Nadal. After the Nishikori match, I have Nadal and Djokovic as co-favourites and Federer 2nd. But that doesn't come anywhere close to describing how dangerous Federer potentially is (far more so than any normal "2nd favourite").

Really, anyone from Thiem, Zverev, Federer, Nadal or Djokovic could win and I would find it significant, and a great way to end the tourney.
Yeah, Fed is dangerous, because of his IQ. Usually fitness was his problem so he thought he needed to go for too much to win early. But now I think he can hang out with Rafa even on clay, because Rafa declined a bit and Fed worked more on his fitness since his injury, plus he is rested too.

Think about it, grinding surfaces are now favoured for old Federer, because he worked on his fitness and backhand baseline game. 2 AO wins and RG semi versus 1 W and 0 USO semi.
 

Firstservingman

Talk Tennis Guru
#25
Depends on how he does it. If he goes down without a fight I will be mad. He needs to grind and extend points and grunt. Sort of like AO 17 mentality, I will do anything even if I can't walk for three months. No this BS of trying to be healthy for grass. It's now or never, Rafa has this kind of mentality.
Fed's gonna make him earn it.
 
#26
I'm not a maestronian but this French Open is now so perfectly poised that I will be happy regardless of who wins. On the men's side it has been the most enjoyable major in a long, long time.

As a fan of the clay game it has been a joy to watch Roger ply his trade the last two weeks. I've missed him on clay.

Federer has such a high tennis IQ. Watching him figure opponents out on a surface that demands so much in terms of point construction has been a highlight for me.

At the start of the event I think I had Djokovic favourite, with Federer 2nd favourite, then Nadal. After the Nishikori match, I have Nadal and Djokovic as co-favourites and Federer 2nd. But that doesn't come anywhere close to describing how dangerous Federer potentially is (far more so than any normal "2nd favourite").

Really, anyone from Thiem, Zverev, Federer, Nadal or Djokovic could win and I would find it significant, and a great way to end the tourney.
Before the tournament you had Nadal 3rd favorite?

 
#30
How about V-Brigadeers trying to turn this into a NUFF SAID-situation? Lol, ridiculous.

On clay Rafa is favourite 99.9% and that's just how it is.

Rafa might get hit by a meteorite or something. He would not be healthy if so happened, of course.
I'm guessing he probably wouldn't be alive either. :p
 
#33
Couldn’t give a damn!!! It’s great! We get 2 days to dream stupid dreams before Rafa smashes them to pieces!

He made it there on clay at 37 and that really is enough.
Besides, Rafa fans gloating might be short lived. Djokovic will surely await and he’s chasing all 4 again...

What would there be to gloat about anyway?
 
#35
Yeah, Fed is dangerous, because of his IQ. Usually fitness was his problem so he thought he needed to go for too much to win early. But now I think he can hang out with Rafa even on clay, because Rafa declined a bit and Fed worked more on his fitness since his injury, plus he is rested too.

Think about it, grinding surfaces are now favoured for old Federer, because he worked on his fitness and backhand baseline game. 2 AO wins and RG semi versus 1 W and 0 USO semi.
Fed? Grind?
Not possible. Attack as much as possible, short points, regardless of outcome. Anything else will see him worn down.
He cannot beat these guys with grinding. He tried for a while in the Stan match and was beaten up.
 
#38
Not a Maestronian but behind Fed on this occasion as I've really liked the way he's approach the clay season and the moments of magic produced at RG, whadda player

Only 2 result outcomes might sting a bit (for fans and maybe for him):

- Complete blowout with bakery products. If you're losing in 3, no 6-0 or 6-1 sets
- Conversely: having loads of chances or even having a lead but losing in 5 or something
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
#41
If it's a straight forward loss , nah not one bit regretful.

If it's pure and proper beat down , okay We still made the semis after 3 years no big deal.


If Fraud somehow , somehow creates millions of genuine chances and then bottles it in his vintage style then I might end up having severe anger management issues for next 2-3 days.
This is the right answer. It depends how the match goes.
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
#42
I'm not a maestronian but this French Open is now so perfectly poised that I will be happy regardless of who wins. On the men's side it has been the most enjoyable major in a long, long time.

As a fan of the clay game it has been a joy to watch Roger ply his trade the last two weeks. I've missed him on clay.

Federer has such a high tennis IQ. Watching him figure opponents out on a surface that demands so much in terms of point construction has been a highlight for me.

At the start of the event I think I had Djokovic favourite, with Federer 2nd favourite, then Nadal. After the Nishikori match, I have Nadal and Djokovic as co-favourites and Federer 2nd. But that doesn't come anywhere close to describing how dangerous Federer potentially is (far more so than any normal "2nd favourite").

Really, anyone from Thiem, Zverev, Federer, Nadal or Djokovic could win and I would find it significant, and a great way to end the tourney.
WOW! I was honestly with you until this, but this is like 1000 bridges too far. :-D Please tell me this is a mistype or something.
 
#46
Ok, I never got you Americans why you love wrestling? What's the point, if it's fake? Can you explain the mentality behind watching it?

We can say it's scripted but defiant acts do happen and the risk of injury is very very real. These guys are in the hurt business.
 

Pheasant

Hall of Fame
#48
Fed is a 100/1 underdog here. Let’s not forget that 2005-2007 Fed only managed a set from Nadal at RG each time. This Fed is substantially slower and doesn’t hit running forehand bomb shots. The only thing that is better is that Fed has a newer racket, which has reduced his backhand shanks against Nadal, due to the substantially larger sweet spot.

Fed winning a set will be a victory to me. Of course, it’s always sad to see your favorite player lose. But this matchup is nearly impossible for Fed. Clay has been terrible for 37+ year olds in the Open Era. I saw Lendl’s game crumble on clay in his early 30s, after being a clay monster. Actually, I believe Gimeno from the early 1970s is the last player to make a RG semi at 37+ years old.

Fed will need to use this modern racket to hit monstrous back hand bombs like he did at 2017 IW. If he does this, then he can take a set. If he doesn’t, then it will be a beat down similar to the 2008 RG final. And a beat down will have me disappointed after the match.

With that being said, a RG semi has been a dream run. I didn’t see this one coming at all. What a feeling! I see Fed playing this event next year, because of his huge success this year.
 
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