Male-Female NTRP rating equivalency

Discussion in 'Adult League & Tournament Talk' started by bluetrain4, Oct 28, 2007.

  1. bluetrain4

    bluetrain4 Legend

    Feb 2, 2007
    A 4.0 man would beat a 4.0 woman pretty badly.

    So, what does the difference in rating have to be for men and women to have a competitive match.

    I'm a lower tier 4.5 (meaning I beat about 30-35% of other 4.5s and lose 65-70%) and beat a solid 4.5 woman 6-1, 6-0.

    I also play with a woman who is a former D1 player, played No. 1 at a mid-tier Big 10 school and was ranked top 100 in the NCAAs. She doesn't play a ton, so I benefit from that, but we trade sets. She beat me 6-3, 6-3, but I beat her 6-4 the next time we played. I've also won 6-2, and she's won 6-2.

    I actually think that overall she's better than me, but I really have an advantage on serve where she says she has a lot of trouble. She seems to have the upper hand when we get into longer points. She's very aggressive and I always tell her that if she was just a little bit more patient before going for her shots, she'd beat me all the time.

    Anyway, she must be at least a 5.5.

    So, a 1.0 difference in ratings will produce a decent match between men and women?

    And by decent I don't even necessarily mean a super close score. Just that there is solid play on both sides, both players can take control of a point and not be totally overwhelmed by the other.
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2007
  2. KFwinds

    KFwinds Professional

    Mar 2, 2004
    Yeah, the difference is about 1.0

    I'm a computer-rated 3.5 (although I win most of my 3.5 men's matches, and often beat 4.0's in practice) and there are a few women at my club that I practice with on occasion. One is a 3.5, and she struggles to get a few games from me per set, and the other is a 4.5 (a former teaching pro) who I can also beat but the sets are usually close. She does occasionally take a set from me at 7-5 or 6-4.
  3. WBF

    WBF Hall of Fame

    Jul 18, 2007
    Somewhere in NY
    Heh. I remember our coach at the university was all about equality.

    She had the #1 girls player play a non-starting male. It was over in half an hour. Her plan backfired. Very amusing.
  4. goober

    goober Legend

    Jun 9, 2004
    I think at the lower levels the difference is not that great. At 2.5-3.0 the difference is .5 at the most and in many cases many matches would be close in the same levels. Once you start going higher levels the differences become greater because higher levels 4.0 and above men have better serves and physical ability/fitness becomes more important.
  5. cak

    cak Professional

    Feb 23, 2004
    I agree with goober. At our club, our 3.0 women's team played our 3.0 men's team in a fun practice match. The men won the match something like 4 courts to 2. So the men were better, but not uniformly, and there were no wipe outs. You get to 3.5, and I can't imagine one court of our 3.5 ladies holding close to the 3.5 men. I'd guess a team of 4.0 women would be able to win a few courts off our 3.5 men's team. I'd guess it would take at least 5.0 women to win a few courts off our 4.0 men's team.
  6. raiden031

    raiden031 Legend

    Aug 31, 2006
    I often play against a 3.5 woman who plays #1 singles usually and wins probably 90% of her USTA matches. I usually beat her 6-1, 6-2. Occasionally she might win 4 games off me in a set if she's really on, but even more often I will win a bagel set. I have improved from probably strong 3.0 to weaker 3.5 since I started playing her. I'd say its a good 0.5 difference, but I know it starts to widen once you hit the higher levels.

    I one time played 6 games against a former D1 female player (not ranked or anything), and we each won 3 games. The only thing that I thought was good about her game was that she had good technique. But she didn't really have any weapons so I think we would've had competitive matches, unless of course she was rusty from not playing for a while or something. I wish I could've had a chance to play with her again since then.
  7. Eviscerator

    Eviscerator Banned

    Apr 15, 2006
    S. Florida
    Couldn't have said it better myself.
  8. kevhen

    kevhen Hall of Fame

    Feb 20, 2004
    Auckland, New Zealand
    At the higher levels the differences become more. I am also a weaker tier 4.5 who has played against ranked D1 women. They usually win the sets but sometimes I can win a set. I know I could beat the weaker D1 players on the local university team which are 5.0-5.5 women's level, about 2 level higher than me would be a good match.

    A 3.5 men is equal to a 4.0 woman in my opinion. A 4.5 woman will beat a 3.5 man. So at the lower levels it is about 1 level in difference.

    At the lowest levels like 2.5, men and women are basically even. Speed and power don't matter if you can't keep the ball in the court.

    At the highest levels, a pro women is like a 5.5-6.0 male so that is 2-3 levels difference.
  9. amarone

    amarone Semi-Pro

    Feb 18, 2004
    I am 3.5, my wife 4.0. I win easily - 6-1, 6-2 would be typical and I fairly often bagel a set. I have occasionally been 4.0 and she has occasionally been 4.5, so we are both on the boundary of the next level, so there is probably close to an exact 0.5 difference between us. Hence I would disagree that a 3.5 man is equal to a 4.0 woman. I think it is closer to a 3.5 man equals a 4.5 woman.

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