Man bets 40k on Kyrgios to win AO
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I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
Isnt he injuried atm?
SinjinCooper
Hall of Fame
Yes, but that's no higher than fourth on the list of reasons why he has no shot to win. Talent, focus, and stamina being his three primary shortcomings relative to the real contenders.
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
I agree with the rest of the post, but not that. Talent is the only reason Kyrgios is spoken of. Its been the only thing that anyone could hold on to so far.
Deon Sanders
Legend
And its a horrible thing to hold on to
Everyone in the top 500 has "talent" whatever that means
Hitting a couple goofy shots for winners and ignoring all the goofy shots that missed is like claiming you are a winner at the casino the one time you made 50 bucks on slots after spending 500 bucks
EloQuent
Legend
Kyrgios has beaten top players and lost/tanked to nobodies. That's why people say he has talent, just lacks motivation
Deon Sanders
Legend
I mean what exactly is this "talent"
And how exactly is he the most "talented" always
Thats not a measure of anything at all really. Its a nice catchphrase though
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
All anyone has to do is watch his matches vs Federer. He pushed Fed to the limit. Matches could have went either way. Can't compare him to players down in the hundreds. Its not even close.
Matthew Lee
Professional
Yep...it's a nice catchphrase. But if you can see all the shots he can pull off, all of the skills he has, like his raw power/pace, powerful serves, decent movement, knack for good feel/touch/drop shots/slices/lobs, and most importantly, the shots he does for fun like tweeners and faking shots, etc., you can't deny the "talent" he has. Sure, every player can do what he does, or attempt to, but they can't seem to do it as fluidly, nonchalantly, as often, as Kyrgios does.
Or, maybe his weapons are up there with the top guys.
Matthew Lee
Professional
You could also look it up, too...
Deon Sanders
Legend
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
Oh the Donskoy bit
. Upsets happen from time to time. Nadal has had a few at Wimbledon that come to mind.
Deon Sanders
Legend
Oh the Donskoy bit
So losing = more talent than winning these days
Im just trying to keep up with all the talent that is out there floating around
Did I mention talent
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
Just take a look at his record vs the Big 3. He's capable of big things more so than any of the players ranked in the hundreds. Common sense really.
EloQuent
Legend
What is a measure then? If you can't recognize that he has talent, I'm not sure how to help you.
Deon Sanders
Legend
Wins and losses
You know. The entire basis of the sport.
Does Jack Sock have as much talent? Im sure you would say no. He does have a masters 1000 title and a WTF semi and thats what matters
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
You ''there is no such thing as talent'' guys are a joke.
You're like flat-earthers...Just because YOU cant see it means its not there right?
Guys like Kyrgios, Fed, Safin, even Gulbis can roll out of bed and hit shots that guys like Mike Russell, with all his hard work and dedication, cannot come close to hitting with any regularity or at all even in practice.
Just like you could never dream of being as good as Russell, even if you put in even more time and effort than he does. Or how I wouldn't be able to play piano like Mozart even if I practiced for 100 years longer.
Talent. Its a thing.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Don't even try. This topic has been beaten to death here. I think some people's hatred of Nick blinds them to the reality of his talent and if a tennis fan can't see his talent, that's their loss. If someone can't see in 5 minutes that Nick has about 50 times the talent of someone like Raonic, then their knowledge of tennis is quite limited.
Talent does not mean Nick will ever win any big title in his life. Leconte and Mecir were both insanely talented but never broke through to win a slam. When you have Annacone, Henman, Rafter, Becker and Wilander all saying that Kyrgios is the second most talented player (after Fed) of the last 20 years, that speaks volumes. Those guys know more than any of us will ever know about tennis. But Nick haters won't acknowledge those voices of reason and just point out his lack of results.
The Nick haters get their knickers in a twist when anyone dares point out his outrageous talent and inevitably (and correctly) respond, "yeah, well, check back when he wins a slam." Again: massive talent does not always translate into results on court
EloQuent
Legend
Kyrgios has a M1000 Final (and a couple of SFs) and a 500 win. Couple of 250s too. QFs in slams. You have to win against other players to get that far. Speaking of wins, he has wins against all big 3.
And yes, Sock is talented too.
Deon Sanders
Legend
EloQuent
Legend
Yeah exactly. Just watch the guy, or listen to people who know what they are seeing.
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Deleted member 733170
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He’s a modern day pantomime villain, just a bit more dull and predictable.
Deon Sanders
Legend
Matthew Lee
Professional
Ok of all the things you've said bs or not this one had me cracking
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
This guy think he has guts betting 40k on Kyrgios?
I just put $50 on Tomas Berdych.
Game, set, match. Point, Scott. Game over. End of game
I just put $50 on Tomas Berdych.
Game, set, match. Point, Scott. Game over. End of game
Slightly D1
Professional
The problem with Kyrgios is that one “bad” call can lead him to losing a game and then the set and then next thing you know he is down 1-2 and tanks. He can talk about being motivated or caring or playing his best tennis but none of that matters once he’s in the middle of a match.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
This guy think he has guts betting 40k on Kyrgios?
I just put $50 on Tomas Berdych.
Game, set, match. Point, Scott. Game over. End of game
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
3 out of 4! Not bad buddy. You keep trying. You'll get it right someday.
D
Deleted member 756486
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This poor guy is probably suicidal.
Goosehead
Legend
lol..reminds me of a drama series I liked as a kid in the mid 1980s called 'big deal' ..
closing credits had £5/£10 notes being washed down a kerb into a drain in heavy rain.
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
Shocked again Fed was at 3.25 lmao
Matthew Lee
Professional
reading through this thread was gold; loved it all
