Margaret Court

thrust

Hall of Fame
Margaret Court definitely underperformed at Wimbledon and not because of any pregnancy (she had her first child in 1972). She won the singles title at Wimbledon three times, which is the same amount as Chris Evert, but with Court's skill at the net, she might have been expected to win Wimbledon at least six times, like Billie Jean King or Martina Navratilova. Even Louise Brough, who could suffer from nerves, won four Wimbledon singles titles.
FYI, Court found out she was pregnant during the 71 Wimbledon, though her child was born in 72. Something had to be wrong with Court to lose to Goolagong by such a score. For me it is interesting that in the two Wimbledon finals they played, Court beat King in both. Also, Court like Rosewall, had a serious Hay Fever problem which affected their stamina some years more than others. Still, 3 Wimbledon wins is not all that bad.
 

BTURNER

Legend
FYI, Court found out she was pregnant during the 71 Wimbledon, though her child was born in 72. Something had to be wrong with Court to lose to Goolagong by such a score. For me it is interesting that in the two Wimbledon finals they played, Court beat King in both. Also, Court like Rosewall, had a serious Hay Fever problem which affected their stamina some years more than others. Still, 3 Wimbledon wins is not all that bad.
Its pretty bad for an GOAT candidate with a big s/v attacking game! Personally. I think you make a lot of excuses here, and they are not the ones I have read that Margaret talks about. She has talked about not feeling especially comfortable in the austere almost stuffy- with-tradition atmosphere on Centre Court. And that is the reason I am going with.
 

Dan Lobb

G.O.A.T.
Its pretty bad for an GOAT candidate with a big s/v attacking game! Personally. I think you make a lot of excuses here, and they are not the ones I have read that Margaret talks about. She has talked about not feeling especially comfortable in the austere almost stuffy- with-tradition atmosphere on Centre Court. And that is the reason I am going with.
Rosewall didn't talk much about his hay fever, either, even though it probably cost him the 1970 singles title.

Aussies did not talk about hay fever, maybe it seemed like a weak excuse....but it was real, and could cost a major title.
 
FYI, Court found out she was pregnant during the 71 Wimbledon, though her child was born in 72. Something had to be wrong with Court to lose to Goolagong by such a score. For me it is interesting that in the two Wimbledon finals they played, Court beat King in both. Also, Court like Rosewall, had a serious Hay Fever problem which affected their stamina some years more than others. Still, 3 Wimbledon wins is not all that bad.
I did stats on the 71 final a while back(never posted them because I didn't want the thread to turn into a political thread and then get deleted)

The score is a bit misleading, there were 142 points played which averages out to 8.3 points per game. That's the highest average @krosero has come across in his large database of stats, I believe. For comparison the 86 W final(a 76, 63 score) had 132 points, which averages to 6 points a game. Around 6 points is generally the average for most matches.

It's been a while since I've watched it, but I gave Court 23 unforced errors, Goolagong 13. Not bad numbers for women's tennis of the 70s. Court was 1/9 on break points, Goolagong 5/16. I'll try to find out what the numbers were by set.
 
Its pretty bad for an GOAT candidate with a big s/v attacking game! Personally. I think you make a lot of excuses here, and they are not the ones I have read that Margaret talks about. She has talked about not feeling especially comfortable in the austere almost stuffy- with-tradition atmosphere on Centre Court. And that is the reason I am going with.
Strange how certain players dislike the atmosphere in certain tournaments - i.e. Borg loved the reverential atmosphere of Wimbledon, but hated the boisterous crowds at the US Open.
 

krosero

Legend
The score is a bit misleading, there were 142 points played which averages out to 8.3 points per game. That's the highest average @krosero has come across in his large database of stats, I believe. For comparison the 86 W final(a 76, 63 score) had 132 points, which averages to 6 points a game. Around 6 points is generally the average for most matches.
Yes, and it's almost still true. I know of one higher now, a 1927 international team match on clay, Tilden d. Borotra 6-0, 6-3, with an average of 8.73 points per game.

6.4 is the most typical average, in the database we've put together.
 
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