Mark my words, Andy Murray will win the 2009 French Open

Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
Nadal 92% chance of winning

Fed 4%

Murray 2%

Djokovic 2%

Rest of Field 0%

Just hold the award ceremony and lets get on with the grass court season...
 

vndesu

Hall of Fame
cant we just get along and wait instead of spending all this time fighting?
lol
id like to see how much nadal would dominate, but then i wanna see upsets during the tournament.
just wait jeez xD
 

Kaptain Karl

Hall Of Fame
75% ... Nadal

10% ... Federer
8% ... Verdasco, Ferrer, Tsonga
5% ... Djoker, Simon, Murray
2% ... Everybody else

- KK

It is definitely higher than 75%.
Psst, Nadal_Freak. Look up there ^^. The name posting those numbers is mine. It's my opinion.

Why are you so bent out of shape about what other people think? This is just an InterNet forum; it's no big deal....

If Nadal wins the French Open *both* you and I will have been correct. (Pretty cool, huh?)

- KK



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Nadal_Freak

Banned
Psst, Nadal_Freak. Look up there ^^. The name posting those numbers is mine. It's my opinion.

Why are you so bent out of shape about what other people think? This is just an InterNet forum; it's no big deal....

If Nadal wins the French Open *both* you and I will have been correct. (Pretty cool, huh?)

- KK
I don't agree with you but I'm not bent out of shape about it. just take a look at Nadal's winning percentage on clay and he's never lost on at RG. 4/4 He didn't even lose a set last year and his form looks even better this year on hardcourts.
 

cknobman

Legend
Fed breaking racquet: 80%
Roddick verbally abusing umpire: 90%
Nadal picking his butt: 100%
Djokovic retiring due to insert random reason: 75%
Roddick going out 1st round: 65%

Fed making finals: 80%
Nadal winning: 90%
Murray making SF: 70%

TW poster argue this until their fingers hurt: 99%
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
Fed breaking racquet: 80%
Roddick verbally abusing umpire: 90%
Nadal picking his butt: 100%
Djokovic retiring due to insert random reason: 75%
Roddick going out 1st round: 65%

Fed making finals: 80%
Nadal winning: 90%
Murray making SF: 70%

TW poster argue this until their fingers hurt: 99%


LOL :) Nice one CK.

I'm liking your Murray 70%, but if I'm honest I think you're being too generous.
 

Kaptain Karl

Hall Of Fame
Fed breaking racquet: 80%
Roddick verbally abusing umpire: 90%
The first is probably a better "bet" than the second ... cuz Roddick doesnt' usually get that many opportunities (matches) to flame the Ump.

Nadal picking his butt: 100%
Djokovic retiring due to insert random reason: 75%
Roddick going out 1st round: 65%
These are fun.

TW poster argue this until their fingers hurt: 99%
So true...!

- KK



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Cyan

Hall of Fame
What makes you think Tsonga and Verdasco are better claycourters than Djokovic? And not only that, but they have not proven themselves capable of winning a major championship though Tsonga appears to be strong enough to pull it off. He did win the Paris Masters last year in style.

Exactly. Nole is better on clay than Tsonga and Verdasco.
 

theduh

Semi-Pro
Fed breaking racquet: 80%
Roddick verbally abusing umpire: 90%
Nadal picking his butt: 100%
Djokovic retiring due to insert random reason: 75%
Roddick going out 1st round: 65%

Fed making finals: 80%
Nadal winning: 90%
Murray making SF: 70%

TW poster argue this until their fingers hurt: 99%

LOL! You should have used the Master Card tagline. TW posters getting annoyed by this forum -> Priceless!
 
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RFtennis

Guest
Might be a bit hard for Murray when Nadal is playing the tournament
 

Hope

New User
You guys talk as if form is permanent. Roger Federer did not lose a match on grass for 5 years and lost at Wimbledon. Nadal has over-achieved this last year - remember the time he did not go beyond the quarterfinal between the French (apart from Wimbledon) one year and Monte Carlo the next? . Did anyone notice how he kept missing his forehand against Del Potro in Miami? And don't forget those knees.
I will take Mats Wilander's word for it (said in jest perhaps at the US Open 2008). Roger Federer will win the French this year.
As for Murray, he could do better than last year, but has anyone ever known a British winner? I haven't -they are not taught to win - we saw what happened in Melbourne. I say max 4th round.
 
I admire the OP's courage...
Please let someone else win the FO and have Nadal beaten in a nerve wrecking 5 set final. Let it be Roger or Andy Murray...
I shall dream for that moment. Who is with me?
 
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Deleted member 3771

Guest
I'll let the TAB mark your words. How much money are you dropping on it since you're so confident?

The amount you drop on it will determine how much you REALLY believe this will happen.

Its a very Australian thing to do too to punt and drop a few $$ on the underdog. You're going to be rich if you're confident enough to to back Murray as soon as possible.

So update the thread and let us know how much you will be willing to lose, hahah :). If the answer is nothing then its not a very bold prediction then is it.


Make us look bad? hahahahahahaha
It is un-australian to not go for the underdog
and 2. I am one person who is voicing there opinion. I am not making you look bad at all. You make yourself look bad by saying something like that!
 

thejoe

Hall of Fame
Ok, hows this. I am playing in a tournament at the moment and if i win my round today i will get like 130 bucks or something along those lines. I will put half on Andy to win if I win.

You don't like the thread, dont comment. You sir are a troll, and I do not see the need why you have to comment. Leave it alone.

You'll be wasting your money.
 

egn

Hall of Fame
If Murray wins I will be happy to see someone challenge Nadal on clay but that happiness will be replaced with depression because these very forums will be flodded with millions of threads on why Andy Murray is GOAT.
 
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Deleted member 3771

Guest
Pricey there are the odds on the FO futures at the sportstab now:

NADAL Rafael 1.40
FEDERER Roger 7.00
DJOKOVIC Novak 15.00
MURRAY Andy 15.00
DEL POTRO Juan Martin 21.00
VERDASCO Fernando 21.00
GONZALEZ Fernando 26.00
MONFILS Gael 26.00
ALMAGRO Nicolas 34.00
FERRER David 34.00
NALBANDIAN David 34.00

If you bet $65 on Murray to win the FO now you'll end up with a whopping $975!! :shock:





pricey_aus said:
Originally Posted by pricey_aus View Post
Ok, hows this. I am playing in a tournament at the moment and if i win my round today i will get like 130 bucks or something along those lines. I will put half on Andy to win if I win.

You don't like the thread, dont comment. You sir are a troll, and I do not see the need why you have to comment. Leave it alone.


You'll be wasting your money.
 

deltox

Hall of Fame
Pricey there are the odds on the FO futures at the sportstab now:

NADAL Rafael 1.40
FEDERER Roger 7.00
DJOKOVIC Novak 15.00
MURRAY Andy 15.00
DEL POTRO Juan Martin 21.00
VERDASCO Fernando 21.00
GONZALEZ Fernando 26.00
MONFILS Gael 26.00
ALMAGRO Nicolas 34.00
FERRER David 34.00
NALBANDIAN David 34.00

If you bet $65 on Murray to win the FO now you'll end up with a whopping $975!! :shock:

where is davy? he was gonna be back before the french i thought id bet on him for 20.00 if he had bad odds lol
 
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Deleted member 3771

Guest
Davydenko is $81.00(odds may vary in other places). not bad- but where is he now, hes only played 3 matches all year.

Full list is here:

NADAL Rafael 1.40 $
FEDERER Roger 7.00 $
DJOKOVIC Novak 15.00 $
MURRAY Andy 15.00 $
DEL POTRO Juan Martin 21.00 $
VERDASCO Fernando 21.00 $
GONZALEZ Fernando 26.00 $
MONFILS Gael 26.00 $
ALMAGRO Nicolas 34.00 $
FERRER David 34.00 $
NALBANDIAN David 34.00 $
TSONGA Jo-Wilfred 67.00 $
DAVYDENKO Nikolay 81.00
ROBREDO Tommy 81.00 $
SIMON Gilles 81.00 $
GASQUET Richard 101.00 $
CILIC Marin 126.00 $
WAWRINKA Stanislas 126.00 $
BERDYCH Tomas 151.00 $
FERRERO Juan Carlos 151.00 $
ANDREEV Igor 201.00 $
CHARDY Jeremy 201.00 $
GULBIS Ernests 201.00 $
MONACO Juan 201.00 $
ACASUSO Jose 251.00 $
ANCIC Mario 251.00 $
BAGHDATIS Marcos 251.00 $
BLAKE James 251.00 $
HEWITT Lleyton 251.00 $
MATHIEU Paul-Henri 251.00 $
RODDICK Andy 251.00 $
SAFIN Marat 251.00 $
STEPANEK Radek 251.00 $
BELLUCCI Thomaz 501.00 $
CANAS Guillermo 501.00 $
CHELA Juan Ignacio 501.00 $
HAAS Tommy 501.00 $
KOHLSCHREIBER Philipp 501.00 $
SODERLING Robin 501.00 $
TROCIKI Viktor 501.00 $
YOUZHNY Mikhail 501.00 $
BENNETEAU Julien 1001.00 $
BOLELLI Simone 1001.00 $
CALLERI Agustin 1001.00 $
CLEMENT Arnaud 1001.00 $
DARCIS Steve 1001.00 $
FISH Mardy 1001.00 $
FOGNINI Fabio 1001.00 $
GICQUEL Marc 1001.00 $
GIL Frederico 1001.00 $
GINEPRI Robby 1001.00 $
GRANOLLERS Marcel 1001.00 $
HANESCU Victor 1001.00 $
HERNYCH Jan 1001.00 $
KARLOVIC Ivo 1001.00 $
KIEFER Nicolas 1001.00 $
KUNITSYN Igor 1001.00 $
LJUBICIC Ivan 1001.00 $
LOPEZ Feliciano 1001.00 $
MASSU Nicolas 1001.00 $
MELZER Jurgen 1001.00 $
MONTANES Albert 1001.00 $
NIEMINEN Jarkko 1001.00 $
NISHIKORI Kei 1001.00 $
QUERREY Sam 1001.00 $
SANTORO Fabrice 1001.00 $
SCHWANK Eduardo 1001.00 $
SEPPI Andreas 1001.00 $
SERRA Florent 1001.00 $
STARACE Potito 1001.00 $
TIPSAREVIC Janko 1001.00 $
TURSUNOV Dmitry 1001.00 $
VLIEGEN Kristof 1001.00 $
ANDERSON Kevin 2001.00 $
ANDUJAR Pablo 2001.00 $
BECKER Benjamin 2001.00 $
CAPDEVILLE Paul 2001.00 $
DABUL Brian 2001.00 $
DANCEVIC Frank 2001.00 $
DANIEL Marcos 2001.00 $
DELIC Amer 2001.00 $
DEVILDER Nicolas 2001.00 $
GABASHVILI Teimuraz 2001.00 $
GARCIA-LOPEZ Guillermo 2001.00 $
GIMENO-TRAVER Daniel 2001.00 $
GOLUBEV Andrey 2001.00 $
GREMELMAYR Denis 2001.00 $
HERNANDEZ Oscar 2001.00 $
HORNA Luis 2001.00 $
ISTOMIN Denis 2001.00 $
JUNQUEIRA Diego 2001.00 $
KARANUSIC Roko 2001.00 $
KENDRICK Robert 2001.00 $
LAPENTTI Nicolas 2001.00 $
LLODRA Michael 2001.00 $
LU Yen-Hsun 2001.00 $
MAHUT Nicolas 2001.00 $
MALISSE Xavier 2001.00 $
MARTIN Alberto 2001.00 $
MULLER Gilles 2001.00 $
NAVARRO Ivan 2001.00 $
ODESNIK Wayne 2001.00 $
PETZSCHNER Philipp 2001.00 $
PHAU Bjorn 2001.00 $
REYNOLDS Bobby 2001.00 $
ROCHUS Christophe 2001.00 $
ROITMAN Sergio 2001.00 $
SCHUETTLER Rainer 2001.00 $
SELA Dudi 2001.00 $
SPADEA Vincent 2001.00 $
STAKHOVSKY Sergiy 2001.00 $
VASSALLO ARGUELLO Martin 2001.00 $
ZVEREV Mischa 2001.00 $

where is davy? he was gonna be back before the french i thought id bet on him for 20.00 if he had bad odds lol
 

deltox

Hall of Fame
Davydenko is $81.00(odds may vary in other places). not bad- but where is he now, hes only played 3 matches all year.

Full list is here:

NADAL Rafael 1.40 $
FEDERER Roger 7.00 $
DJOKOVIC Novak 15.00 $
MURRAY Andy 15.00 $
DEL POTRO Juan Martin 21.00 $
VERDASCO Fernando 21.00 $
GONZALEZ Fernando 26.00 $
MONFILS Gael 26.00 $
ALMAGRO Nicolas 34.00 $
FERRER David 34.00 $
NALBANDIAN David 34.00 $
TSONGA Jo-Wilfred 67.00 $
DAVYDENKO Nikolay 81.00
ROBREDO Tommy 81.00 $
SIMON Gilles 81.00 $
GASQUET Richard 101.00 $
CILIC Marin 126.00 $
WAWRINKA Stanislas 126.00 $
BERDYCH Tomas 151.00 $
FERRERO Juan Carlos 151.00 $
ANDREEV Igor 201.00 $
CHARDY Jeremy 201.00 $
GULBIS Ernests 201.00 $
MONACO Juan 201.00 $
ACASUSO Jose 251.00 $
ANCIC Mario 251.00 $
BAGHDATIS Marcos 251.00 $
BLAKE James 251.00 $
HEWITT Lleyton 251.00 $
MATHIEU Paul-Henri 251.00 $
RODDICK Andy 251.00 $
SAFIN Marat 251.00 $
STEPANEK Radek 251.00 $
BELLUCCI Thomaz 501.00 $
CANAS Guillermo 501.00 $
CHELA Juan Ignacio 501.00 $
HAAS Tommy 501.00 $
KOHLSCHREIBER Philipp 501.00 $
SODERLING Robin 501.00 $
TROCIKI Viktor 501.00 $
YOUZHNY Mikhail 501.00 $
BENNETEAU Julien 1001.00 $
BOLELLI Simone 1001.00 $
CALLERI Agustin 1001.00 $
CLEMENT Arnaud 1001.00 $
DARCIS Steve 1001.00 $
FISH Mardy 1001.00 $
FOGNINI Fabio 1001.00 $
GICQUEL Marc 1001.00 $
GIL Frederico 1001.00 $
GINEPRI Robby 1001.00 $
GRANOLLERS Marcel 1001.00 $
HANESCU Victor 1001.00 $
HERNYCH Jan 1001.00 $
KARLOVIC Ivo 1001.00 $
KIEFER Nicolas 1001.00 $
KUNITSYN Igor 1001.00 $
LJUBICIC Ivan 1001.00 $
LOPEZ Feliciano 1001.00 $
MASSU Nicolas 1001.00 $
MELZER Jurgen 1001.00 $
MONTANES Albert 1001.00 $
NIEMINEN Jarkko 1001.00 $
NISHIKORI Kei 1001.00 $
QUERREY Sam 1001.00 $
SANTORO Fabrice 1001.00 $
SCHWANK Eduardo 1001.00 $
SEPPI Andreas 1001.00 $
SERRA Florent 1001.00 $
STARACE Potito 1001.00 $
TIPSAREVIC Janko 1001.00 $
TURSUNOV Dmitry 1001.00 $
VLIEGEN Kristof 1001.00 $
ANDERSON Kevin 2001.00 $
ANDUJAR Pablo 2001.00 $
BECKER Benjamin 2001.00 $
CAPDEVILLE Paul 2001.00 $
DABUL Brian 2001.00 $
DANCEVIC Frank 2001.00 $
DANIEL Marcos 2001.00 $
DELIC Amer 2001.00 $
DEVILDER Nicolas 2001.00 $
GABASHVILI Teimuraz 2001.00 $
GARCIA-LOPEZ Guillermo 2001.00 $
GIMENO-TRAVER Daniel 2001.00 $
GOLUBEV Andrey 2001.00 $
GREMELMAYR Denis 2001.00 $
HERNANDEZ Oscar 2001.00 $
HORNA Luis 2001.00 $
ISTOMIN Denis 2001.00 $
JUNQUEIRA Diego 2001.00 $
KARANUSIC Roko 2001.00 $
KENDRICK Robert 2001.00 $
LAPENTTI Nicolas 2001.00 $
LLODRA Michael 2001.00 $
LU Yen-Hsun 2001.00 $
MAHUT Nicolas 2001.00 $
MALISSE Xavier 2001.00 $
MARTIN Alberto 2001.00 $
MULLER Gilles 2001.00 $
NAVARRO Ivan 2001.00 $
ODESNIK Wayne 2001.00 $
PETZSCHNER Philipp 2001.00 $
PHAU Bjorn 2001.00 $
REYNOLDS Bobby 2001.00 $
ROCHUS Christophe 2001.00 $
ROITMAN Sergio 2001.00 $
SCHUETTLER Rainer 2001.00 $
SELA Dudi 2001.00 $
SPADEA Vincent 2001.00 $
STAKHOVSKY Sergiy 2001.00 $
VASSALLO ARGUELLO Martin 2001.00 $
ZVEREV Mischa 2001.00 $

he has been injured and im hoping he comes back strong but its unlikely. but 20.00 wins over 1600.00
 

egn

Hall of Fame
I would have expected Marat Safin to have higher odds than Andy Roddick though..he made a french open semifinal once.
 

Ronny

Hall of Fame
murray will not make it through past the 3rd round imo....just not good enough on clay compared to the other players.
 

Breaker

Legend
murray will not make it through past the 3rd round imo....just not good enough on clay compared to the other players.

Last year he lost to one of the best clay courters in Almagro, there are only three or four players at or above Almagro's level on clay so last year's Roland Garros isn't that great an indication of how he'll do. The only way is to see how he does in the warm up tournaments then pray to avoid Almagro in his section.
 

nhat8121

Semi-Pro
people that starts threads like this should put something up...like

I will not start up any threads until the next slam if Murray doesn't win the French Open...mark my words

else, what's the point, really? mark your words? your words don't mean ****
 

crazylevity

Hall of Fame
What I don't understand is, hasn't Murray been training in Spain since young? Doesn't that mean he has (at least) decent grounding on clay? Why is it that he has been rubbish at clay tournaments thus far?
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
What I don't understand is, hasn't Murray been training in Spain since young? Doesn't that mean he has (at least) decent grounding on clay? Why is it that he has been rubbish at clay tournaments thus far?


He went to sanchez-casal at the age of 15 and made a couple of CH finals as a kid on the surface. I heard an interview with the BBC a couple of days ago where he says he once 'played very well' on clay and believes he can do so again. He says the reason he's been so poor is that he's not invested enough time on the dirt to move well. Also says the key is to train his butt off on clay under Alex C's guidance so he can move as well on the dirt as he does on hard.

We'll see how he does - I think he can maybe make a semi on the dirt this year.

I tell you what though, Murray becoming a threat on clay would really set the cat among the pigeons.
 
He went to sanchez-casal at the age of 15 and made a couple of CH finals as a kid on the surface. I heard an interview with the BBC a couple of days ago where he says he once 'played very well' on clay and believes he can do so again. He says the reason he's been so poor is that he's not invested enough time on the dirt to move well. Also says the key is to train his butt off on clay under Alex C's guidance so he can move as well on the dirt as he does on hard.

We'll see how he does - I think he can maybe make a semi on the dirt this year.

I tell you what though, Murray becoming a threat on clay would really set the cat among the pigeons.

Its not just his movement his serve that he relies on isn't effective on clay, he has a poor topspin forehand and he backhand is too flat and has no margin for error.
 

miyagi

Professional
He went to sanchez-casal at the age of 15 and made a couple of CH finals as a kid on the surface. I heard an interview with the BBC a couple of days ago where he says he once 'played very well' on clay and believes he can do so again. He says the reason he's been so poor is that he's not invested enough time on the dirt to move well. Also says the key is to train his butt off on clay under Alex C's guidance so he can move as well on the dirt as he does on hard.

We'll see how he does - I think he can maybe make a semi on the dirt this year.

I tell you what though, Murray becoming a threat on clay would really set the cat among the pigeons.

why?

10 chars
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
why?

10 chars

Because up until now Murray has been labelled a hardcourt specialist who won't threaten on natural surfaces. Becoming a threat on the other surfaces would give him a genuine chance of being world number 1 one day. If he can't produce on the natural surfaces then he's probably gone about as far as he can.

That's why it would set the cat among the pigeons - it would give credence to the view that Murray can challenge for the number 1 slot.

For clarity, I'm not saying he will be a threat on clay. What I am saying is that if he did develop his game and became a threat on clay, then it would change the dynamic at the top of the men's game.
 
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GameSampras

Banned
And who said Murray sucks on clay? :). Hell he made it further than Fed did only losing to Nadal at Monte Carlo. Hell Murray may have even won Monte Carlo if Nadal wasnt in it. Not bad for a "crappy clay court player." His clay game is already improving. Murray will be a big big threat in a few years on all surfaces no doubt. I think we have Nadal's rival improving right before our eyes
 

cknobman

Legend
Murray dosnt stand a chance against Nadal on clay and it was just proven two days ago.

As a matter of fact I think everyone is severely underestimating Novak. He is a very different player this time versus last year, some for the negative but mostly for the positive. He has in a way "come down to earth" and learned to respect his opponents more. Maybe his game is off a little but its clear he still has what it takes to be a top contender.

An out of form Novak fared much better against Nadal on clay than a "on fire" Murray. Novak is the only person to have taken a set off Nadal at Monte Carlo in over 2 years.
 

vtmike

Banned
And who said Murray sucks on clay? :). Hell he made it further than Fed did only losing to Nadal at Monte Carlo. Hell Murray may have even won Monte Carlo if Nadal wasnt in it. Not bad for a "crappy clay court player." His clay game is already improving. Murray will be a big big threat in a few years on all surfaces no doubt. I think we have Nadal's rival improving right before our eyes

Why because Nadal spanked Murray in straight sets?? :-?
 
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nikdom

Guest
people that starts threads like this should put something up...like

I will not start up any threads until the next slam if Murray doesn't win the French Open...mark my words

else, what's the point, really? mark your words? your words don't mean ****

Hehe.... Amen to that
 
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nikdom

Guest
I have a problem with the odds on federer vs the odds on djokovic. Djokovic probably has a better chance as of now. Of course we shall see how Rome and hamburg go.
 
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