Martin Kližan denied treatment during St. Petersburg final

Fabresque

Professional

Argument with Director is at 5:08 - 6:08

Replay of ankle injury is at 6:15 - 6:33

Extra arguing with umpire and director happens afterwards.

He had requested treatment, physio comes out, assesses the situation and leaves. Kližan is asking the tournament director to get him back out as he needs the treatment. The director tells him it’s the physio’s decision that he will get treatment at the next changeover. Kližan desperately asks the director to get him back as he needs the treatment now. Umpire calls time, and in a fit of rage Kližan throws his bottle of juice and gets a warning for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Thoughts?
 

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.

Argument with Director is at 5:08 - 6:08

Replay of ankle injury is at 6:15 - 6:33

Extra arguing with umpire and director happens afterwards.

He had requested treatment, physio comes out, assesses the situation and leaves. Kližan is asking the tournament director to get him back out as he needs the treatment. The director tells him it’s the physio’s decision that he will get treatment at the next changeover. Kližan desperately asks the director to get him back as he needs the treatment now. Umpire calls time, and in a fit of rage Kližan throws his bottle of juice and gets a warning for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Thoughts?
It was dead even until 3/3 1st set. When Thiem broke, it was just a matter of time.
 

reaper

Legend

Argument with Director is at 5:08 - 6:08

Replay of ankle injury is at 6:15 - 6:33

Extra arguing with umpire and director happens afterwards.

He had requested treatment, physio comes out, assesses the situation and leaves. Kližan is asking the tournament director to get him back out as he needs the treatment. The director tells him it’s the physio’s decision that he will get treatment at the next changeover. Kližan desperately asks the director to get him back as he needs the treatment now. Umpire calls time, and in a fit of rage Kližan throws his bottle of juice and gets a warning for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Thoughts?
The injury is replayed at 6:15 on the video, but I think the incident shown was from his 1/4 final clash. IE He wasn't seeking treatment for an injury he'd just incurred. I don't know the rights or wrongs of whether he had the right to treatment on the spot, but it didn't cost him. He'd been broken several times in the lead up to this incident but then came out and held serve after being denied treatment.
 

prairiegirl

Hall of Fame
He wasn't denied treatment. They said he could have it at the next changeover. I don't understand why that was, but I think Klizan should have received it when he needed it. He wasn't being unreasonable. Too bad about the juice, though.
 

Bartelby

Talk Tennis Guru
Treatment for a pre-existing injury at a changeover is the rule. If it is trauma then the injury can be treated immediately.

If that is more or less the rule, garnered through observation and not the rule book, then Klizan had no chance of his objections being heard.

Players who know this may feign a new injury of sorts.
 

mogo

Rookie
Off topic, but Klizan played a hell of a match against Stan the Man.

I think Thiem wins no matter if he gets treatment or not in this one.
 

Fabresque

Professional
The injury is replayed at 6:15 on the video, but I think the incident shown was from his 1/4 final clash. IE He wasn't seeking treatment for an injury he'd just incurred. I don't know the rights or wrongs of whether he had the right to treatment on the spot, but it didn't cost him. He'd been broken several times in the lead up to this incident but then came out and held serve after being denied treatment.
Ohh, ok I understand. But shouldn’t he still get treatment if he wants it?
 

reaper

Legend
Ohh, ok I understand. But shouldn’t he still get treatment if he wants it?
I don't know what the rule is. I assume what the physio and match officials decided was within the rules, if only because they have no particular reason to go outside them. Is there a difference in the way a player is treated depending on whether they're getting physio at change of ends compared to a medical time out?
 

Goosehead

Legend
kilzan sounds a bit like tarzan..

if he was johnny weissmuller they would've let him have the treatment.

but he is not.

so hard cheese matey.
 
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Goosehead

Legend
Never knew Johnny Weissmuller played tennis. What ranking did he achieve?
tarzan is beyond any mere ranking..

for it is he that can outfight a croc IN the river. (although I do hear he won a few swimming gold medals at 2 Olympic games)
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
tarzan is beyond any mere ranking..

for it is he that can outfight a croc IN the river. (although I do hear he won a few swimming gold medals at 2 Olympic games)
Olympic gold medals? That should make certain players (and their fans) very jealous!
 
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Fabresque

Professional
I don't know what the rule is. I assume what the physio and match officials decided was within the rules, if only because they have no particular reason to go outside them. Is there a difference in the way a player is treated depending on whether they're getting physio at change of ends compared to a medical time out?
No idea, the rules for medical timeouts and such are extremely vague and a situation like this only aggravates the player and causes delays
 
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