Martina Navratilova Diagnosed with throat and breast cancer

stringertom

Bionic Poster
just awful...first Chris, now Martina. I recalled she had breast cancer earlier and beat it. Fingers crossed. Larynx cancer is unusual for a non-smoker...did not know HPV could cause it as well. Awful all around.
Even before Evert’s diagnosis, Chrissie lost her younger sister Jeanne nearly three years ago to the same ovarian cancer. And before Jeanne’s death, it’s been 5 years since Jana Novotná lost her battle with cancer
 

Bambooman

Hall of Fame
im surprised considering her diet & fitness, esp the throat cancer.. i guess cancer is more hereditary than anything else, and if you have a propensity for it, no preventable

Diet and fitness for throat cancer? Probably not quite the prevention you seem to think.
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
Since when is giving encouragement "cruel"? Since when?
"if anyone can beat cancer, it's Martina" is a lame comment suggesting that Martina can beat this because she beat most other tennis players. Wuh??? One of Sontag's points is that this is cruel in that it places an undue burden on the patient to "fight," whatever the hell that means here, when they might just want to be more passive and simply enjoy the time left to them, which some sadly characterize as feckless surrender.
 
I think a statement if anyone can beat it is, it is her, is not due to her beating other tennis players. It is some obstacles she beat in her life already, being gay at a time it was taboo and having the courage to come out (something even a very courageous person like King was not willing to do around the same time, and even had a husband to mask it). Defecting which was a gigantic risk to take, I can't imagine how terrifying that was and what a relief to get through it with no real repurcussions in the end.
 

Bambooman

Hall of Fame
the main causes of throat cancer are tobacco and alcohol.. that sounds diet/fitness related to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You can have a good diet and be into fitness while still smoking and drinking.

You know what else causes throat cancer? HPV.
 

BumElbow

Professional
"if anyone can beat cancer, it's Martina" is a lame comment suggesting that Martina can beat this because she beat most other tennis players. Wuh??? One of Sontag's points is that this is cruel in that it places an undue burden on the patient to "fight," whatever the hell that means here, when they might just want to be more passive and simply enjoy the time left to them, which some sadly characterize as feckless surrender.
Martina's statement was positive that she was going to do her best to beat these health issues. Words of encouragement are not the problem here. It is your negativity that is "lame."
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
It says throat, could be esophagus. There are other causes of throat cancer besides alcohol and tobacco.
Oesophagal cancer is far worse than throat cancer for survival rates, but oesophagal cancer also tends to be caused by long-term smoking and spirit alcohol use. The actor, John Thaw, was one such victim, famous for Inspector Morse.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
"if anyone can beat cancer, it's Martina" is a lame comment suggesting that Martina can beat this because she beat most other tennis players. Wuh??? One of Sontag's points is that this is cruel in that it places an undue burden on the patient to "fight," whatever the hell that means here, when they might just want to be more passive and simply enjoy the time left to them, which some sadly characterize as feckless surrender.

Yeah it is just a comforting thing people say.

Like "Everything works out for the good."
 
Oesophagal cancer is far worse than throat cancer for survival rates, but oesophagal cancer also tends to be caused by long-term smoking and spirit alcohol use. The actor, John Thaw, was one such victim, famous for Inspector Morse.
Again, those two aren't the only things that cause esophageal cancer. Long standing acid reflux disease causes distal esophageal cancer.
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
i would count on her beating it, its stage 1 cancer
That's what the press said about her throat cancer, which at least indicates that it isn't a case of stage 4 breast cancer spread to throat.

I didn't see the press say what stage her breast cancer was. If they are both stage 1, her chances are very good.
 

jrepac

Hall of Fame
That's what the press said about her throat cancer, which at least indicates that it isn't a case of stage 4 breast cancer spread to throat.

I didn't see the press say what stage her breast cancer was. If they are both stage 1, her chances are very good.
I read that as well. Let's hope it works out that way for her.
 
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