Masterclass in fluidity

LarougeNY

Professional
Great Great vids shooter. Thanks alot, he looks like he uses a lot of wrist in that forehand, and his footwork is really off when he's just hitting around, nothing compared to a match.
He does fool around quite a bit.
 
At least I'm not the only one who thinks Roger uses the wrist in the forehand. There was a big debate about this in another thread.

Superb videos though.
 

thejackal

Hall of Fame
Great Great vids shooter. Thanks alot, he looks like he uses a lot of wrist in that forehand, and his footwork is really off when he's just hitting around, nothing compared to a match.
He does fool around quite a bit.
i disagree about the footwork. on the closeups especially you can see how light he is on his feet. being on your toes is supposed to be about finesse, not jerkiness,
 
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lordmanji

Guest
marco, thanks alot for the vids.

federer looks so effortless large part due to his technique but i think also to his low string tension.
 

kevhen

Hall of Fame
Amazing to just watch him watch every single ball in to the point of contact. I don't feel comfortable turning my head but he turns his head as the ball is moving in. Amazing. He is very flat-footed in warmups but then he is just working on his swing and getting use to the clay surface.
 

LarougeNY

Professional
i disagree about the footwork. on the closeups especially you can see how light he is on his feet. being on your toes is supposed to be about finesse, not jerkiness,
He hit a lot of his shots of the back foot and off balance. Like someone else said, he's flat footed in practice then when he starts playing more seriously you see his "Masterclass Fluidity)
 

es-0

Rookie
Doesn't Federer use an "extreme" eastern, between Eastern and Sem-Western?

Like your knuckle on the bevel between those two?
 

sapient007

Semi-Pro
some of the vids you can actually see him change fh grip and swing path. my guess is that his shot selection is soo deep that he's not really locked into any particular grip.
 

tricky

Hall of Fame
One thing I love about Fed's practice sessions is how much "bouncing" he does with his feet. Even though he's standing too upright, he's doing mini split-steps well before his partner hits him a ball. It's like he's drilling into his mind to keep his feet light.

Sometimes his footwork looks like an instruction video on cheesy hip hop moves from the late 80s. I'm sure he does a mean running man. ;)
 

ShooterMcMarco

Hall of Fame
no problemo

One thing I love about Fed's practice sessions is how much "bouncing" he does with his feet. Even though he's standing too upright, he's doing mini split-steps well before his partner hits him a ball. It's like he's drilling into his mind to keep his feet light.
I also noticed that too, that he stands upright and looks a little lazy. Seems like he gets bored out there too, hehe
 

Swissv2

Hall of Fame
The second video is golden, because the guy is comparing his racquet size to Federers, and it is very close.
 

tricky

Hall of Fame
Somebody mentioned that Roddick has beaten Federer a few times during practice. (i.e. yes, Federer does practice sometimes with pros.) Straight sets and all that. And Wallace brought up that watching Federer in practice, it really surprises you how often he sprays shots.
 

ShooterMcMarco

Hall of Fame
Guess he saves his best stuff for matches. What surprises me is that the way he practices isn't really how he plays in a match. It's almost like he arms every shot, he still has the shoulder turn but not much legs like in matches.
 

tricky

Hall of Fame
Federer's swing mechanics are such that he produces an incredible amount of racquet head speed from just the arm (his wrist hot wires the kinetic chain), and without much effort. He doesn't need a lot of leg drive or torso rotation to make the racquet fly. It's the same with Nadal whose mechanics are similar to Fed's. Accuracy is a different issue, of course. And in fact, you could argue that his 2003 leap coincideded with the development of his footwork and posture. The lower he got, the lighter he moved, the less shanky his strokes got. But the upside of those strokes were always there.

It's more apparent with the really, really early footage of Fed. His footwork wasn't great, and he kinda stood up in his strokes. But his FH was like a torpedo that often went long.
 

MTXR

Professional
Is there some plugin I am missing? I only have sound, the picture shows up only a split second and then I just get sound.It also process forever.
 

Ross K

Legend
I also noticed that too, that he stands upright
Yes, he really does, doesn't he? Having recently been studying up his bh style, I've been very surprised to observe how frequently he has this upright and generally very simple looking bher technique. Okay, tricky says this was more prevalent in the past and he's now using more leg drive, knee bend, torso rotation, etc... but... I dunno... I wouldn't mind being able to do his 'armer' shot!
 

MTXR

Professional
it plays for a split second and then it goes into a loading screen, and i can notice on my d/l meter that i am accessing the content but it won't play. Sigh..
can anyone upload to youtube?
 

PED

Legend
thx for putting it on the temporary page, I couldn't get it to load either on the l'equipe page. Nice videos! I really liked clip 2 near the end when they showed the camera view with Fed hitting face on. His forehand is SO clean and the sound of contact is like a rifle shot.

did anyone else notice the "FedEx" sponsor signs pasted all over R. Garros in the background...kinda ironic :)
 

bluescreen

Hall of Fame
wow, nice vids. thanks for posting. might not be the best footwork from rog, but still some great analysis of his shots.
 
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