Masters vs. YEC

[Backspin1183]

Only at RG. Not on clay in general.

RG is the biggest clay court tournament.

 

[Lleytonstation]

RG is the biggest clay court tournament.

But not the only Clay tourney.

 

[Backspin1183]

But not the only Clay tourney.

The tournament Thiem wants to win the most.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Between Masters 1000 and WTF.

So you got:
Laver Cup > Slams > WTF > Olympic gold > Masters 1000 > ATP 500 > ATP 250

Correct?

 

[Lleytonstation]

The tournament Thiem wants to win the most.

Used to. Now he realizes he has better chances at AO and USO.

 

[Beckerserve]

Similar? Which one is harder to win?

Obviously there are different levels of draw throughout all the masters. But in order for the top guys to win they have to win 5 matches and can't lose.

Meanwhile, YEC you can lose and only win 4 matches and still win the title. But you will be playing better competition.

Rome Masters draw for Djoker on the way to the final:
caruso: 87
krajonivic: 29
koepfer: 97
ruud: 34
Rafa: 2

Average rank: 50

YEC draw for Tsits:
Rafa: 2 (loss)
Med: 4
Zverev: 7
Fed: 3
Thiem: 5

Average rank: 4

Now he lost one match and only won 4, but the caliber of players is much higher.

No debate here. All players agree it is M1000. Many have openly stated that.

 

[Backspin1183]

Used to. Now he realizes he has better chances at AO and USO.

Because of Nadal.

 

[lucky13]

1- you have 9 chances every year to win a masters but only one chance to win the WTF.
2- there are so many different conditions with masters (2 different surfaces, indoors, outdoor houses, etc.) so there is a greater chance that someone would suit you.
3- there is tougher competition at WTF and you can not skip top10 opponents no matter what.
4. 1300-1500p > 1000p

considering all this the hardest thing would be to win all 10 !!! the ultimate challenge. do not think there is, and will ever be a player, who can handle it ... but wait .. ojjj wait again !!!

Spoiler

unbellibelelebelll

 

[Beckerserve]

Where do you have Olympic gold?

Again players are clear. Olympic Gold on a par with Majors. Ask Murray ask Djokovic ask del Potro all of whom have said so. Puzzles me why arm chair fans seek to query what the actual players think.

 

[lucky13]

Again players are clear. Olympic Gold on a par with Majors. Ask Murray ask Djokovic ask del Potro all of whom have said so. Puzzles me why arm chair fans seek to query what the actual players think.

GS>WTF>=OG>M

 

[MeatTornado]

Shocking to see this issue divided among party lines.

Shocking I tell you!

 

[Lleytonstation]

Shocking to see this issue divided among party lines.

Shocking I tell you!

Well I gave Rafa fans a chance to make it clear.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Shocking to see this issue divided among party lines.

Shocking I tell you!

Guess @MasterZeb is the only true Rafa fan here.

 

[FRV3]

Again players are clear. Olympic Gold on a par with Majors. Ask Murray ask Djokovic ask del Potro all of whom have said so. Puzzles me why arm chair fans seek to query what the actual players think.

Woah woah woah. It's on par as far as their desire goes, but surely a BO3 tournament that isn't representative of the true field and comes along every 4 years must bear less weight for a legacy? I tell ya. I'm headed straight for the top.

 

[Hitman]

So you got:
Laver Cup > Slams > WTF > Olympic gold > Masters 1000 > ATP 500 > ATP 250

Correct?

LOL - Yeah why not?

But certainly WTF above Masters as per the original question.

 

[JaoSousa]

Soderling, Murray, Ferrer, Djokovic, Nadal

Woah

 

[r2473]

Depends on who is really trying to win at any particular event. The fact that the Big 3 haven’t won YEC for several years now is telling.

In the early 2000’s, nobody was trying at YEC. It was hard to even get the players to come. Somehow they convinced Fed to try and give it some respectability. Still, the Big 3 obviously don’t try too hard to win it these days.

 

[Deleted member 748597]

The YEC.

 

[MasterZeb]

Guess @MasterZeb is the only true Rafa fan here.

Massive. I have 3 pairs of his match worn briefs.

 

[Lleytonstation]

The YEC.

The best. I know.

 

[DSH]

Ask Dimitrov!