Match Analysis Wimbledon 2017 - Federer vs Berdych

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  1. tennis_balla

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    Hey guys, sharing with you a match analysis we did for the semifinal match between Roger Federer and Tomas Berdych. We were involved with one of the sports tv channels here in Czech Republic which has exclusive rights to broadcast Wimbledon and they wanted analysis done for certain matches along with on-air studio discussions.

    When you click on the link, change it to English on the top right. There are 3 options at the bottom.
    Statistics, Player Comparison and Protocol. Statistics shows you of course all the statistics from the match.

    Player Comparison is our software which along with the match video, you choose what you want to see from the match. For example, let's say you want to see all Aces that were hit. You choose that, click generate and make sure you have "Mark Points" checked to see where they happened on the graph. Click on a dot and click replay point and it will replay that point for you. The efficiency graph and hexagon shows how productive the players were during the match. In the efficiency graph, dark green shows time between points, and light green is point time duration.

    Here is the link, enjoy. Any questions just let me know.
    http://break2win.com/Match.aspx?match_id=1454398
     
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  2. sureshs

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    What is meant by Player Hexagon?

    Are the stats compiled by humans or automatically with Playsight etc?
     
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    Compiled manually. Computers cannot tell the difference between a forced and unforced error for example, and software such as Playsight is not 100% accurate.

    Player Hexagon is a quick summary of everything in the data. The further away from centre the better. Efficiency graph shows how points were won, by winner, forced or unforced error and is calculated +2 points for a winner (on the graph), +1 point for a forced error to opponent, -1 for own forced error and -2 for own unforced error.
     
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  4. sureshs

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    How do you get the Mental part of the Hexagon from the stats?
     
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    I didn't see either of Fed's match's, Berdyk or Cilic.
    I'll bet B and C went for more winners, missed a whole lot more shots, but hit harder balls with more speed and topspin.
    Fed hit more accurately, got more in, and probably got close to the same number of winners.
    I do have the match's on video, but have been watching the Tour and whatever motocross is on TV.
     
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    Yikes. On my iphone i couldnt get it to switch to english. Maybe its a cookies deal.
     
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    It works for me, in Safari you just have to zoom in and press and hold the Czech language flag and a javascript notice will pop up at the bottom of your screen, cancel it and you can then choose English as both language options will appear at once. Hope that helped.
     
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    Balla, can you confirm a stat for me? I always thought "total winners" included those from service. Another coach just told me that was incorrect and that winner total didn't include aces....looking at your stats makes me think I was right, but would like to be more sure....thanks
     
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    Winners are off groundstrokes, volleys etc. Aces are aces. Aces don't count in the winners column. At least thats how I always say it but I might be wrong as well.
     
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    As a general rule when "statting" Aces and winners are kept separate.
     
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  11. sureshs

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    5263 is correct. Total winners is not the same as winners.

    MatchPro software:

    Total winners Number of winners including return winners and aces won by a player

    http://mymatchpro.com/stats.html
     
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    Yes, and the way I came up with my position was by counting totals including aces and it always seemed to add up to the total winner number. Thanks for the reference.

    To me this sort of leads to a misleading number because of the large number of winners coming from good servers.
     
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