Match points saved and squandered by the Big Four

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MP WASTED (20)                        

2018 Wimbledon       QF   Anderson       6–2, 7–6(5), 5–7, 4–6, 11–13      (1MP)
2018 Indian Wells    F    del Potro      4–6, 7–6(8), 6–7(2)               (3MP)
2017 Stuttgart       R16  Haas           6–2, 6–7(8), 4–6                  (1MP)
2017 Dubai           R16  Donskoy        6–3, 6–7(7), 6–7(5)               (3MP)
2016 Stuttgart       SF   Thiem          6–3, 6–7(7), 4–6                  (2MP)
2015 Madrid          R32  Kyrgios        7–6(2), 6–7(5), 6–7(12)           (2MP)
2014 Rome            R32  Chardy         6–1, 3–6, 6–7(6)                  (1MP)
2013 Dubai           SF   Berdych        6–3, 6–7(8), 4–6                  (3MP)
2011 US Open         SF   Djokovic       7–6(7), 6–4, 3–6, 2–6, 5–7        (2MP)
2010 Paris           SF   Monfils        6–7(7), 7–6(1), 6–7(4)            (5MP)!
2010 US Open         SF   Djokovic       7–5, 1–6, 7–5, 2–6, 5–7           (2MP)
2010 Miami           R16  Berdych        4–6, 7–6(3), 6–7(6)               (1MP)
2010 Indian Wells    R32  Baghdatis      7–5, 5–7, 6–7(4)                  (3MP)
2006 Rome            F    Nadal          7–6(0), 6–7(5), 4–6, 6–2, 6–7(5)  (2MP)
2005 Monte Carlo     QF   Gasquet        7–6(1), 2–6, 6–7(8)               (3MP)
2005 Aus Open        SF   Safin          7–5, 4–6, 7–5, 6–7(6), 7–9        (1MP)
2003 Miami           QF   Costa          6–7(4), 6–4, 6–7(7)               (3MP)
2002 Aus Open        R16  Haas           6–7(3), 6–4, 6–3, 4–6, 6–8        (1MP)
2001 Halle           QF   Rafter         6–4, 6–7(6), 6–7(4)               (1MP)
2000 Vienna          SF   Henman         6–2, 6–7(4), 3–6                  (2MP)

MP SAVED (18)                       

2018 Halle           R16  Paire          6–3, 3–6, 7–6(7)                  (2MP)
2017 Miami           QF   Berdych        6–2, 3–6, 7–6(6)                  (2MP)
2016 Wimbledon       QF   Cilic          6–7(4), 4–6, 6–3, 7–6(9), 6–3     (3MP)
2014 London WTF      SF   Wawrinka       4–6, 7–5, 7–6(6)                  (4MP)
2014 Shanghai        R32  Mayer          7–5, 3–6, 7–6(7)                  (5MP)
2014 US Open         QF   Monfils        4–6, 3–6, 6–4, 7–5, 6–2           (2MP)
2011 Madrid          R32  López          7–6(13), 6–7(1), 7–6(7)           (1MP)
2006 Shanghai TMC    RR   Roddick        4–6, 7–6(8), 6–4                  (3MP)
2006 Halle           QF   Rochus         6–7(2), 7–6(9), 7–6(5)            (4MP)
2005 Dubai           R16  Ferrero        4–6, 6–3, 7–6(6)                  (2MP)
2003 Houston TMC     RR   Agassi         6–7(3), 6–3, 7–6(7)               (2MP)
2003 Paris           R16  Verkerk        6–7(3), 7–6(12), 7–6(6)           (4MP)
2003 Cincinnati      R64  Draper         4–6, 6–3, 7–6(10)                 (7MP)!!
2001 Vienna          R32  Massú          4–6, 7–6(8), 6–4                  (3MP)
2001 Miami           R16  Johansson      7–6(3), 5–7, 7–6(7)               (1MP)
2000 Basel           SF   Hewitt         6–4, 5–7, 7–6(6)                  (1MP)
2000 Marseille       QF   Ljubicic       6–2, 3–6, 7–6(5)                  (2MP)
1999 Rotterdam       R32  Raoux          6–7(4), 7–5, 7–6(3)               (2MP)

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MP WASTED (7)

2016 Buenos Aires    SF   Thiem          4–6, 6–4, 6–7(4)                  (1MP)
2015 Indian Wells    QF   Raonic         6–4, 6–7(10), 5–7                 (3MP)
2010 Doha            F    Davydenko      6–0, 6–7(8), 4–6                  (2MP)
2005 Cincinnati      R64  Berdych        7–6(4), 2–6, 6–7(3)               (3MP)
2004 Stuttgart       QF   Ferrer         3–6, 7–6(3), 5–7                  (3MP)
2004 Indian Wells    R32  Calleri        4–6, 6–3, 6–7(10)                 (3MP)
2003 Bastad          QF   Lapentti       6–3, 3–6, 6–7(6)                  (5MP)!!

MP SAVED (13)

2017 Beijing         R32  Pouille        4–6, 7–6(6), 7–5                  (2MP)
2016 Indian Wells    R16  Zverev         6–7(8), 6–0, 7–5                  (1MP)
2015 Paris           R16  Anderson       4–6, 7–6(6), 6–2                  (1MP)
2014 Rio             SF   Andujar        2–6, 6–3, 7–6(10)                 (2MP)
2010 Tokyo           SF   Troicki        7–6(4), 4–6, 7–6(7)               (2MP)
2010 Cincinnati      R16  Benneteau      5–7, 7–6(6), 6–2                  (1MP)
2009 Paris           R32  Almagro        3–6, 7–6(2), 7–5                  (5MP)
2009 Madrid          SF   Djokovic       3–6, 7–6(5), 7–6(9)               (3MP)
2009 Indian Wells    R16  Nalbandian     3–6, 7–6(5), 6–0                  (5MP)!
2008 Chennai         SF   Moyá           6–7(3), 7–6(8), 7–6(1)            (4MP)
2006 Rome            F    Federer        6–7(0), 7–6(5), 6–4, 2–6, 7–6(5)  (2MP)
2006 Marseille       R32  Rochus         4–6, 6–2, 7–5                     (1MP)
2005 Aus Open        R64  Youzhny        6–1, 4–6, 4–6, 7–5, 6–3           (1MP)

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MP WASTED (3)                       

2018 Queen's         F    Cilic          7–5, 6–7(4), 3–6                  (1MP)
2009 Madrid          SF   Nadal          6–3, 6–7(5), 6–7(9)               (3MP)
2007 Rotterdam       SF   Youzhny        6–3, 6–7(7), 5–7                  (3MP)

MP SAVED (12)                       

2017 Doha            SF   Verdasco       4–6, 7–6(7), 6–3                  (5MP)
2015 Montreal        QF   Gulbis         5–7, 7–6(7), 6–1                  (2MP)
2012 Shanghai        F    Murray         5–7, 7–6(11), 6–3                 (5MP)!
2012 Roland Garros   QF   Tsonga         6–1, 5–7, 5–7, 7–6(6), 6–1        (4MP)
2011 London WTF      RR   Berdych        3–6, 6–3, 7–6(3)                  (1MP)
2011 US Open         SF   Federer        6–7(7), 4–6, 6–3, 6–2, 7–5        (2MP)
2010 US Open         SF   Federer        5–7, 6–1, 5–7, 6–2, 7–5           (2MP)
2010 Indian Wells    R32  Kohlschreiber  6–3, 2–6, 7–6(3)                  (3MP)
2009 Basel           SF   Stepanek       6–7(4), 7–5, 6–2                  (3MP)
2009 Halle           R16  Serra          5–7, 7–5, 6–1                     (5MP)
2007 Vienna          QF   Chela          6–3, 5–7, 7–6(2)                  (2MP)
2005 Wimbledon       R64  G.Lopez        3–6, 3–6, 7–6(5), 7–6(3), 6–4     (3MP)

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MP WASTED (5)                       

2012 Paris           R16  Janowicz       7–5, 6–7(4), 2–6                  (1MP)
2012 Shanghai        F    Djokovic       7–5, 6–7(11), 3–6                 (5MP)!
2012 Tokyo           SF   Raonic         3–6, 7–6(5), 6–7(4)               (2MP)
2010 Los Angeles     F    Querrey        7–5, 6–7(2), 3–6                  (1MP)
2008 Miami           R64  Ancic          2–6, 6–2, 6–7(7)                  (2MP)

MP SAVED (11)                         

2017 Dubai           QF   Kohlschreiber  6–7(4), 7–6(18), 6–1              (7MP)!
2016 London WTF      SF   Raonic         5–7, 7–6(5), 7–6(9)               (1MP)
2014 Valencia        F    Robredo        3–6, 7–6(7), 7–6(8)               (5MP)
2014 Shenzhen        F    Robredo        5–7, 7–6(9), 6–1                  (5MP)
2014 Cincinnati      QF   Isner          6–7(3), 6–4, 7–6(2)               (2MP)
2013 Miami           F    Ferrer         2–6, 6–4, 7–6(1)                  (1MP)
2007 St. Petersburg  SF   Youzhny        6–2, 5–7, 7–6(1)                  (1MP)
2007 Miami           R16  Mathieu        2–6, 7–5, 6–3                     (2MP)
2007 Indian Wells    QF   Haas           3–6, 6–3, 7–6(8)                  (2MP)
2006 Newport         R32  Mello          6–1, 1–6, 7–6(5)                  (5MP)
 
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Observations:

FEDERER:
  • Match Won while saving Match point/Match Lost while having Match point: 18-20
  • Matchpoints Saved/Wasted: 50-42
  • Matches Won/Lost in GS: 2-4
  • Lost 1 Match with 4 MP or more (5MP)
  • Saved 6 Matches with 4 MP or more (7MP, 4MP, 4MP, 5MP, 4MP)
  • Wasted Match Points twice against: Djokovic, Berdych, Haas
  • WTF?! Match Point moment: Saving 7 MP against Scott Draper
  • WTF?! Match Point moment 2: Losing twice with 2 MP against Djokovic in a GS Semifinal

NADAL:
  • Match Won while saving Match point/Match Lost while having Match point: 13-7
  • Matchpoints Saved/Wasted: 30-20
  • Lost 1 Match with 4MP or more (5MP)
  • Saved 3 Matches with 4 MP or more (4MP, 5MP, 5MP)

DJOKOVIC:
  • Match Won while saving Match point/Match Lost while having Match point: 12-3
  • Matchpoints Saved/Wasted: 37-7
  • Matches Won/Lost in GS: 2-0
  • Saved 4 Matches with 4 MP or more (5MP, 4MP, 5MP, 5MP)
  • Saved Match Point twice against: Federer
  • WTF?! Match Point moment: Saving 5 MP in a final against Murray
  • WTF?! Match Point moment 2: Saving 2 MP twice against Federer in a GS semifinal

MURRAY:
  • Match Won while saving Match point/Match Lost while having Match point: 11-5
  • Matchpoints Saved/Wasted: 32-11
  • Saved 3 Matches with 5 MP or more (7MP, 5MP, 5MP, 5MP)
  • Saved Match Point Twice against: Robredo
  • Wasted match points three tournaments in a row (2012 Tokyo, 2012 Shanghai, 2012 Paris)
  • WTF?! Match Point moment: Losing 2 Finals with Match Points

MISC:
  • Berdych (Federer/Nadal), Raonic (Nadal/Murray), and Thiem (Nadal/Federer) have saved MP against two members of the Big 4.
  • Youzhny (Nadal/Murray) and Kohlschreiber (Djokovic/Murray) has wasted MP against two members of the Big 4
  • Federer has wasted MP against both Nadal and Djokovic
  • Federer (Chardy #25), Nadal (Calleri #16, Thiem #19) and Murray (Janowicz #15, Querrey #17) have wasted MP to players whose highest rank is outside top 10
  • Only Murray has not saved MP against a #1 Player (highest Ferrer #3)
 
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  • MURRAY:Wasted match points three tournaments in a row (2012 Tokyo, 2012 Shanghai, 2012 Paris)
    Some really interesting cases as this one, all 3 matches in a row where Andy wasted MP came after he won first GS trophy. Shows how difficult it is to deal with success without previous experience .Then now is more clear why many fedfans hate Berdych so passionately.LOL
 
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#4
Wow...never realized Federer lost so many.

I will never forget those Murray/Robredo matches in Shenzhen and Valencia.

Shenzhen: Robredo was up 7-5, 6-6 (6-2) and I went to cook breakfast. When I came back Murray was ahead 5-1 in the 3rd set. I was stunned.

Valencia: One of the best 3 set matches Ive seen. reminded me a lot of Djokovic/Nadal from Madrid. Robredo blew match points in the 2nd set, but didnt tank the 3rd set like Shenzhen. The MP rally that Murray won on was one of the better match points Ive ever seen.
 
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MP WASTED (17)                               

2017 Dubai           R16  Donskoy        6–3, 6–7(7), 6–7(5)               (3MP)
2016 Stuttgart       SF   Thiem          6–3, 6–7(7), 4–6                  (2MP)
2015 Madrid          R32  Kyrgios        7–6(2), 6–7(5), 6–7(12)           (2MP)
2014 Rome            R32  Chardy         6–1, 3–6, 6–7(6)                  (1MP)
2013 Dubai           SF   Berdych        6–3, 6–7(8), 4–6                  (3MP)
2011 US Open         SF   Djokovic       7–6(7), 6–4, 3–6, 2–6, 5–7        (2MP)
2010 Paris           SF   Monfils        6–7(7), 7–6(1), 6–7(4)            (5MP)!
2010 US Open         SF   Djokovic       7–5, 1–6, 7–5, 2–6, 5–7           (2MP)
2010 Miami           R16  Berdych        4–6, 7–6(3), 6–7(6)               (1MP)
2010 Indian Wells    R32  Baghdatis      7–5, 5–7, 6–7(4)                  (3MP)
2006 Rome            F    Nadal          7–6(0), 6–7(5), 4–6, 6–2, 6–7(5)  (2MP)
2005 Monte Carlo     QF   Gasquet        7–6(1), 2–6, 6–7(8)               (3MP)
2005 Aus Open        SF   Safin          7–5, 4–6, 7–5, 6–7(6), 7–9        (1MP)
2003 Miami           QF   Costa          6–7(4), 6–4, 6–7(7)               (3MP)
2002 Aus Open        R16  Haas           6–7(3), 6–4, 6–3, 4–6, 6–8        (1MP)
2001 Halle           QF   Rafter         6–4, 6–7(6), 6–7(4)               (1MP)
2000 Vienna          SF   Henman         6–2, 6–7(4), 3–6                  (2MP)

MP SAVED (17)                             

2017 Miami           QF   Berdych        6–2, 3–6, 7–6(6)                  (2MP)
2016 Wimbledon       QF   Cilic          6–7(4), 4–6, 6–3, 7–6(9), 6–3     (3MP)
2014 London WTF      SF   Wawrinka       4–6, 7–5, 7–6(6)                  (4MP)
2014 Shanghai        R32  Mayer          7–5, 3–6, 7–6(7)                  (5MP)
2014 US Open         QF   Monfils        4–6, 3–6, 6–4, 7–5, 6–2           (2MP)
2011 Madrid          R32  López          7–6(13), 6–7(1), 7–6(7)           (1MP)
2006 Shanghai TMC    RR   Roddick        4–6, 7–6(8), 6–4                  (3MP)
2006 Halle           QF   Rochus         6–7(2), 7–6(9), 7–6(5)            (4MP)
2005 Dubai           R16  Ferrero        4–6, 6–3, 7–6(6)                  (2MP)
2003 Houston TMC     RR   Agassi         6–7(3), 6–3, 7–6(7)               (2MP)
2003 Paris           R16  Verkerk        6–7(3), 7–6(12), 7–6(6)           (4MP)
2003 Cincinnati      R64  Draper         4–6, 6–3, 7–6(10)                 (7MP)!!
2001 Vienna          R32  Massú          4–6, 7–6(8), 6–4                  (3MP)
2001 Miami           R16  Johansson      7–6(3), 5–7, 7–6(7)               (1MP)
2000 Basel           SF   Hewitt         6–4, 5–7, 7–6(6)                  (2MP)
2000 Marseille       QF   Ljubicic       6–2, 3–6, 7–6(5)                  (2MP)
1999 Rotterdam       R32  Raoux          6–7(4), 7–5, 7–6(3)               (2MP)

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MP WASTED (7)

2016 Buenos Aires    SF   Thiem          4–6, 6–4, 6–7(4)                  (1MP)
2015 Indian Wells    QF   Raonic         6–4, 6–7(10), 5–7                 (3MP)
2010 Doha            F    Davydenko      6–0, 6–7(8), 4–6                  (2MP)
2005 Cincinnati      R64  Berdych        7–6(4), 2–6, 6–7(3)               (3MP)
2004 Stuttgart       QF   Ferrer         3–6, 7–6(3), 5–7                  (3MP)
2004 Indian Wells    R32  Calleri        4–6, 6–3, 6–7(10)                 (3MP)
2003 Bastad          QF   Lapentti       6–3, 3–6, 6–7(6)                  (5MP)!!

MP SAVED (12)

2016 Indian Wells    R16  Zverev         6–7(8), 6–0, 7–5                  (1MP)
2015 Paris           R16  Anderson       4–6, 7–6(6), 6–2                  (1MP)
2014 Rio             SF   Andujar        2–6, 6–3, 7–6(10)                 (2MP)
2010 Tokyo           SF   Troicki        7–6(4), 4–6, 7–6(7)               (2MP)
2010 Cincinnati      R16  Benneteau      5–7, 7–6(6), 6–2                  (1MP)
2009 Paris           R32  Almagro        3–6, 7–6(2), 7–5                  (5MP)
2009 Madrid          SF   Djokovic       3–6, 7–6(5), 7–6(9)               (3MP)
2009 Indian Wells    R16  Nalbandian     3–6, 7–6(5), 6–0                  (5MP)!
2008 Chennai         SF   Moyá           6–7(3), 7–6(8), 7–6(1)            (4MP)
2006 Rome            F    Federer        6–7(0), 7–6(5), 6–4, 2–6, 7–6(5)  (2MP)
2006 Marseille       R32  Rochus         4–6, 6–2, 7–5                     (1MP)
2005 Aus Open        R64  Youzhny        6–1, 4–6, 4–6, 7–5, 6–3           (1MP)

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MP WASTED (2)                             

2009 Madrid          SF   Nadal          6–3, 6–7(5), 6–7(9)               (3MP)
2007 Rotterdam       SF   Youzhny        6–3, 6–7(7), 5–7                  (3MP)

MP SAVED (12)                             

2017 Doha            SF   Verdasco       4–6, 7–6(7), 6–3                  (5MP)
2015 Montreal        QF   Gulbis         5–7, 7–6(7), 6–1                  (2MP)
2012 Shanghai        F    Murray         5–7, 7–6(11), 6–3                 (5MP)!
2012 Roland Garros   QF   Tsonga         6–1, 5–7, 5–7, 7–6(6), 6–1        (4MP)
2011 London WTF      RR   Berdych        3–6, 6–3, 7–6(3)                  (1MP)
2011 US Open         SF   Federer        6–7(7), 4–6, 6–3, 6–2, 7–5        (2MP)
2010 US Open         SF   Federer        5–7, 6–1, 5–7, 6–2, 7–5           (2MP)
2010 Indian Wells    R32  Kohlschreiber  6–3, 2–6, 7–6(3)                  (3MP)
2009 Basel           SF   Stepanek       6–7(4), 7–5, 6–2                  (3MP)
2009 Halle           R16  Serra          5–7, 7–5, 6–1                     (5MP)
2007 Vienna          QF   Chela          6–3, 5–7, 7–6(2)                  (2MP)
2005 Wimbledon       R64  G.Lopez        3–6, 3–6, 7–6(5), 7–6(3), 6–4     (3MP)

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MP WASTED (5)                             

2012 Paris           R16  Janowicz       7–5, 6–7(4), 2–6                  (1MP)
2012 Shanghai        F    Djokovic       7–5, 6–7(11), 3–6                 (5MP)!
2012 Tokyo           SF   Raonic         3–6, 7–6(5), 6–7(4)               (2MP)
2010 Los Angeles     F    Querrey        7–5, 6–7(2), 3–6                  (1MP)
2008 Miami           R64  Ancic          2–6, 6–2, 6–7(7)                  (2MP)

MP SAVED (11)                               

2017 Dubai           QF   Kohlschreiber  6–7(4), 7–6(18), 6–1              (7MP)!
2016 London WTF      SF   Raonic         5–7, 7–6(5), 7–6(9)               (1MP)
2014 Valencia        F    Robredo        3–6, 7–6(7), 7–6(8)               (5MP)
2014 Shenzhen        F    Robredo        5–7, 7–6(9), 6–1                  (5MP)
2014 Cincinnati      QF   Isner          6–7(3), 6–4, 7–6(2)               (2MP)
2013 Miami           F    Ferrer         2–6, 6–4, 7–6(1)                  (1MP)
2007 St. Petersburg  SF   Youzhny        6–2, 5–7, 7–6(1)                  (1MP)
2007 Miami           R16  Mathieu        2–6, 7–5, 6–3                     (2MP)
2007 Indian Wells    QF   Haas           3–6, 6–3, 7–6(8)                  (2MP)
2006 Newport         R32  Mello          6–1, 1–6, 7–6(5)                  (5MP)

Dude, great work!
 
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Observations:

FEDERER:
  • Match Won while saving Match point/Match Lost while having Match point: 17-17
  • Matchpoints Saved/Wasted: 49-37
  • Matches Won/Lost in GS: 2-4
  • Lost 1 Match with 4 MP or more (5MP)
  • Saved 6 Matches with 4 MP or more (7MP, 4MP, 4MP, 5MP, 4MP)
  • Wasted Match Points twice against: Djokovic, Berdych
  • WTF?! Match Point moment: Saving 7 MP against Scott Draper
  • WTF?! Match Point moment 2: Losing twice with 2 MP against Djokovic in a GS Semifinal

NADAL:
  • Match Won while saving Match point/Match Lost while having Match point: 12-7
  • Matchpoints Saved/Wasted: 28-20
  • Lost 1 Match with 4MP or more (5MP)
  • Saved 3 Matches with 4 MP or more (4MP, 5MP, 5MP)

DJOKOVIC:
  • Match Won while saving Match point/Match Lost while having Match point: 12-2
  • Matchpoints Saved/Wasted: 37-6
  • Matches Won/Lost in GS: 2-0
  • Saved 4 Matches with 4 MP or more (5MP, 4MP, 5MP, 5MP)
  • Saved Match Point twice against: Federer
  • WTF?! Match Point moment: Saving 5 MP in a final against Murray
  • WTF?! Match Point moment 2: Saving 2 MP twice against Federer in a GS semifinal

MURRAY:
  • Match Won while saving Match point/Match Lost while having Match point: 11-5
  • Matchpoints Saved/Wasted: 32-11
  • Saved 3 Matches with 5 MP or more (7MP, 5MP, 5MP, 5MP)
  • Saved Match Point Twice against: Robredo
  • Wasted match points three tournaments in a row (2012 Tokyo, 2012 Shanghai, 2012 Paris)
  • WTF?! Match Point moment: Losing 2 Finals with Match Points

MISC:
  • Berdych (Federer/Nadal), Raonic (Nadal/Murray), and Thiem (Nadal/Federer) have saved MP against two members of the Big 4.
  • Youzhny (Nadal/Murray) and Kohlschreiber (Djokovic/Murray) has wasted MP against two members of the Big 4
  • Federer has wasted MP against both Nadal and Djokovic
  • Federer (Chardy #25), Nadal (Calleri #16, Thiem #19) and Murray (Janowicz #15, Querrey #17) have wasted MP to players whose highest rank is outside top 10
  • Only Murray has not saved MP against a #1 Player (highest Ferrer #3)
Fantastic work!!!!!
 
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#15
I knew Rogi would be at the top of list for most losses when having match points among the big 4. That and not converting break points are the 2 biggest stats that make him lose more often than not.
 
#17
Djokovic is not just a great front runner. He also hardly ever fails when the finish line is so close.

Federer probably holds the record for both MP saving and squandering. Not surprising because of such a long career while he hardly ever loses convincingly.
 
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Djokovic is not just a great front runner. He also hardly ever fails when the finish line is so close.

Federer probably holds the record for both MP saving and squandering. Not surprising because of such a long career while he hardly ever loses convincingly.
Djokovic and Nadal are unreal front-runners. The only 2 guys I feel utterly hopeless/helpless against when they have even the slimmest of leads.

That's what made Australian Open final even more shocking to me.
 
#19
Wow...never realized Federer lost so many.

I will never forget those Murray/Robredo matches in Shenzhen and Valencia.


Shenzhen: Robredo was up 7-5, 6-6 (6-2) and I went to cook breakfast. When I came back Murray was ahead 5-1 in the 3rd set. I was stunned.

Valencia: One of the best 3 set matches Ive seen. reminded me a lot of Djokovic/Nadal from Madrid. Robredo blew match points in the 2nd set, but didnt tank the 3rd set like Shenzhen. The MP rally that Murray won on was one of the better match points Ive ever seen.
Agree with this 100% Both of those matches were outstanding tennis. There was so many highlight points and the Valencia match was probably one of the top matches all year, probably ignored due to the opponent but i remember it being so good!
 
#26
Shows how hard he is to beat.
Does it? He has the lowest matches% won of the Big 3. Career %points won might be interesting by surface cause I think he might have a higher% of points won but lower% of matches won compared to Djokovic.


In any case, Murray and especially Djokovic are quite something else in this stat. For Murray probably due to having a few huge "scores" against lesser players, while Djokovic, when he's on, has been ridiculously clutch in MP situations.
 
#29
Depends on how you value it. Fed is the hardest ATG to beat in straight sets and his MP mugging is a part of it.
I think generally Federer just wins because he wins way more points than the opponent, and when the points go 50/50 that Federer actually gets tight and is more likely to choke than Djokovic and Nadal.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
#31
Wow...never realized Federer lost so many.

I will never forget those Murray/Robredo matches in Shenzhen and Valencia.

Shenzhen: Robredo was up 7-5, 6-6 (6-2) and I went to cook breakfast. When I came back Murray was ahead 5-1 in the 3rd set. I was stunned.

Valencia: One of the best 3 set matches Ive seen. reminded me a lot of Djokovic/Nadal from Madrid. Robredo blew match points in the 2nd set, but didnt tank the 3rd set like Shenzhen. The MP rally that Murray won on was one of the better match points Ive ever seen.
Awesome match that one, I remember it fairly well. I'm sure Robredo does too:

 
#32
I think generally Federer just wins because he wins way more points than the opponent, and when the points go 50/50 that Federer actually gets tight and is more likely to choke than Djokovic and Nadal.
Yeah, he's also the leader of losing matching while winning the majority of the points.
RAFA started choking in different situations, though like having a losing record in 5 setters since 2010 while Fed has a winning one.
 
#34
Yeah, he's also the leader of losing matching while winning the majority of the points.
RAFA started choking in different situations, though like having a losing record in 5 setters since 2010 while Fed has a winning one.
Yeah, people often just talk about choking like it's this one thing, though basically every player can have different choking patterns.
 

Fiero425

Hall of Fame
#42
First time after having championship points.
In past eras, the top players really couldn't care less about the event; mostly used to get in some extra practice time before Wimbledon! IIRC, Borg never actually played at Queens which was the only event btwn him winning the FO 6 times and the Wimbledon titles he hogged for 5+ years! It wasn't uncommon for Connors to drop his 1st or 2nd match, not wanting to get involved in some grass court war and get injured! That was damn likely with most of the top players with how choppy and slippery the surface was before being homogenized the last decade or so! I'm thrilled Nole actually did this well; I'll take it! :rolleyes: :p ;)
 
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