Match points saved and squandered by the Big Four

[Breakpointerer]

45-7 ratio now?

 

[jm1980]

45-7 ratio now?

15-3 in matches
47-7 in points

 

[Breakpointerer]

15-3 in matches
47-7 in points

Insane

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Highly reminiscent of the Doha '17 Verdasco win. Monfiasco indeed.

 

[Third Serve]

Was waiting for this bump

 

[Fiero425]

Highly reminiscent of the Doha '17 Verdasco win. Monfiasco indeed.

I think Nole saved 5 or 6 MP's in that one against Verdasco! That's what's so frustrating about the "Big 3!" They've all had these comebacks against players that can't seem to finish! IIRC Feliciano Lopez had Roger on the ropes years ago on clay in an early round of a clay Masters! He literally had a 5-1 lead in a 3rd set TB! At that point in command, he "whiffed" on an overhead at the net! He laughed it off and Roger saved point after point until he got ahead in the TB winning it 10-8! Nadal has come back from the dead more than any of them; allowing nobodies, "also rans" and "never-weres" to take him to the limit all the time!

 

[Mkiske]

15-3 in matches
47-7 in points

Awesome!

 

[Petros Basilica]

Another trophy for the Federer cabinet

 

[Pablo1989]

Very interesting thread, thank you

 

[beard]

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                                  ***FEDERER***        

MP WASTED (22)           

2019 Wimbledon       F    Djokovic       6–7(5), 6–1, 6–7(4), 6–4, 12–13(3) (2MP)!
2019 Madrid          QF   Thiem          6–3, 6–7(11), 4–6                  (2MP)
2018 Wimbledon       QF   Anderson       6–2, 7–6(5), 5–7, 4–6, 11–13       (1MP)
2018 Indian Wells    F    del Potro      4–6, 7–6(8), 6–7(2)                (3MP)
2017 Stuttgart       R16  Haas           6–2, 6–7(8), 4–6                   (1MP)
2017 Dubai           R16  Donskoy        6–3, 6–7(7), 6–7(5)                (3MP)
2016 Stuttgart       SF   Thiem          6–3, 6–7(7), 4–6                   (2MP)
2015 Madrid          R32  Kyrgios        7–6(2), 6–7(5), 6–7(12)            (2MP)
2014 Rome            R32  Chardy         6–1, 3–6, 6–7(6)                   (1MP)
2013 Dubai           SF   Berdych        6–3, 6–7(8), 4–6                   (3MP)
2011 US Open         SF   Djokovic       7–6(7), 6–4, 3–6, 2–6, 5–7         (2MP)
2010 Paris           SF   Monfils        6–7(7), 7–6(1), 6–7(4)             (5MP)!
2010 US Open         SF   Djokovic       7–5, 1–6, 7–5, 2–6, 5–7            (2MP)
2010 Miami           R16  Berdych        4–6, 7–6(3), 6–7(6)                (1MP)
2010 Indian Wells    R32  Baghdatis      7–5, 5–7, 6–7(4)                   (3MP)
2006 Rome            F    Nadal          7–6(0), 6–7(5), 4–6, 6–2, 6–7(5)   (2MP)
2005 Monte Carlo     QF   Gasquet        7–6(1), 2–6, 6–7(8)                (3MP)
2005 Aus Open        SF   Safin          7–5, 4–6, 7–5, 6–7(6), 7–9         (1MP)
2003 Miami           QF   Costa          6–7(4), 6–4, 6–7(7)                (3MP)
2002 Aus Open        R16  Haas           6–7(3), 6–4, 6–3, 4–6, 6–8         (1MP)
2001 Halle           QF   Rafter         6–4, 6–7(6), 6–7(4)                (1MP)
2000 Vienna          SF   Henman         6–2, 6–7(4), 3–6                   (2MP)

MP SAVED (22)
      
2020 Aus Open        QF   Sandgren       6–3, 2–6, 2–6, 7–6(8), 6–3         (7MP)!!
2019 Rome            R16  Coric          2–6, 6–4, 7–6(7)                   (2MP)
2019 Madrid          R16  Monfils        6–0, 4–6, 7–6(3)                   (2MP)
2018 Halle           R16  Paire          6–3, 3–6, 7–6(7)                   (2MP)
2017 Miami           QF   Berdych        6–2, 3–6, 7–6(6)                   (2MP)
2016 Wimbledon       QF   Cilic          6–7(4), 4–6, 6–3, 7–6(9), 6–3      (3MP)
2014 London WTF      SF   Wawrinka       4–6, 7–5, 7–6(6)                   (4MP)
2014 Shanghai        R32  Mayer          7–5, 3–6, 7–6(7)                   (5MP)
2014 US Open         QF   Monfils        4–6, 3–6, 6–4, 7–5, 6–2            (2MP)
2011 Madrid          R32  López          7–6(13), 6–7(1), 7–6(7)            (1MP)
2006 Shanghai TMC    RR   Roddick        4–6, 7–6(8), 6–4                   (3MP)
2006 Halle           QF   Rochus         6–7(2), 7–6(9), 7–6(5)             (4MP)
2005 Dubai           R16  Ferrero        4–6, 6–3, 7–6(6)                   (2MP)
2003 Houston TMC     RR   Agassi         6–7(3), 6–3, 7–6(7)                (2MP)
2003 Paris           R16  Verkerk        6–7(3), 7–6(12), 7–6(6)            (4MP)
2003 Cincinnati      R64  Draper         4–6, 6–3, 7–6(10)                  (7MP)!!
2001 Vienna          R32  Massú          4–6, 7–6(8), 6–4                   (3MP)
2001 Miami           R16  Johansson      7–6(3), 5–7, 7–6(7)                (1MP)
2000 Basel           SF   Hewitt         6–4, 5–7, 7–6(6)                   (1MP)
2000 US Open         R128 Wessels        4–6, 4–6, 6–3, 7–5, 3–4 RET        (1MP)
2000 Marseille       QF   Ljubicic       6–2, 3–6, 7–6(5)                   (2MP)
1999 Rotterdam       R32  Raoux          6–7(4), 7–5, 7–6(3)                (2MP)

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                                    ***NADAL***          

MP WASTED (8)

2019 Acapulco        R16  Kyrgios        6–3, 6–7(2), 6–7(6)                (3MP)
2016 Buenos Aires    SF   Thiem          4–6, 6–4, 6–7(4)                   (1MP)
2015 Indian Wells    QF   Raonic         6–4, 6–7(10), 5–7                  (3MP)
2010 Doha            F    Davydenko      6–0, 6–7(8), 4–6                   (2MP)
2005 Cincinnati      R64  Berdych        7–6(4), 2–6, 6–7(3)                (3MP)
2004 Stuttgart       QF   Ferrer         3–6, 7–6(3), 5–7                   (3MP)
2004 Indian Wells    R32  Calleri        4–6, 6–3, 6–7(10)                  (2MP)
2003 Bastad          QF   Lapentti       6–3, 3–6, 6–7(6)                   (5MP)!!

MP SAVED (14)

2019 Tour Finals     RR   Medvedev       6–7(3), 6–3, 7–6(4)                (1MP)
2017 Beijing         R32  Pouille        4–6, 7–6(6), 7–5                   (2MP)
2016 Indian Wells    R16  Zverev         6–7(8), 6–0, 7–5                   (1MP)
2015 Paris           R16  Anderson       4–6, 7–6(6), 6–2                   (1MP)
2014 Rio             SF   Andujar        2–6, 6–3, 7–6(10)                  (2MP)
2010 Tokyo           SF   Troicki        7–6(4), 4–6, 7–6(7)                (2MP)
2010 Cincinnati      R16  Benneteau      5–7, 7–6(6), 6–2                   (1MP)
2009 Paris           R32  Almagro        3–6, 7–6(2), 7–5                   (5MP)
2009 Madrid          SF   Djokovic       3–6, 7–6(5), 7–6(9)                (3MP)
2009 Indian Wells    R16  Nalbandian     3–6, 7–6(5), 6–0                   (5MP)!
2008 Chennai         SF   Moyá           6–7(3), 7–6(8), 7–6(1)             (4MP)
2006 Rome            F    Federer        6–7(0), 7–6(5), 6–4, 2–6, 7–6(5)   (2MP)
2006 Marseille       R32  Rochus         4–6, 6–2, 7–5                      (1MP)
2005 Aus Open        R64  Youzhny        6–1, 4–6, 4–6, 7–5, 6–3            (1MP)

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                                  ***DJOKOVIC***        

MP WASTED (3)          

2018 Queen's         F    Cilic          7–5, 6–7(4), 3–6                   (1MP)
2009 Madrid          SF   Nadal          6–3, 6–7(5), 6–7(9)                (3MP)
2007 Rotterdam       SF   Youzhny        6–3, 6–7(7), 5–7                   (3MP)

MP SAVED (15)          

2020 Dubai           SF   Monfils        2–6, 7–6(8), 6–1                   (3MP)
2019 Wimbledon       F    Federer        7–6(5), 1–6, 7–6(4), 4–6, 13–12(3) (2MP)!
2019 Rome            QF   del Potro      4–6, 7–6(6), 6–4                   (2MP)
2017 Doha            SF   Verdasco       4–6, 7–6(7), 6–3                   (5MP)
2015 Montreal        QF   Gulbis         5–7, 7–6(7), 6–1                   (2MP)
2012 Shanghai        F    Murray         5–7, 7–6(11), 6–3                  (5MP)!
2012 Roland Garros   QF   Tsonga         6–1, 5–7, 5–7, 7–6(6), 6–1         (4MP)
2011 London WTF      RR   Berdych        3–6, 6–3, 7–6(3)                   (1MP)
2011 US Open         SF   Federer        6–7(7), 4–6, 6–3, 6–2, 7–5         (2MP)
2010 US Open         SF   Federer        5–7, 6–1, 5–7, 6–2, 7–5            (2MP)
2010 Indian Wells    R32  Kohlschreiber  6–3, 2–6, 7–6(3)                   (3MP)
2009 Basel           SF   Stepanek       6–7(4), 7–5, 6–2                   (3MP)
2009 Halle           R16  Serra          5–7, 7–5, 6–1                      (5MP)
2007 Vienna          QF   Chela          6–3, 5–7, 7–6(2)                   (2MP)
2005 Wimbledon       R64  G.Lopez        3–6, 3–6, 7–6(5), 7–6(3), 6–4      (6MP)!*

* Conflicting sources on this one. Some sources say Djokovic saved 6 MP, some say 3.

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                                   ***MURRAY***          

MP WASTED (5)          

2012 Paris           R16  Janowicz       7–5, 6–7(4), 2–6                   (1MP)
2012 Shanghai        F    Djokovic       7–5, 6–7(11), 3–6                  (5MP)!
2012 Tokyo           SF   Raonic         3–6, 7–6(5), 6–7(4)                (2MP)
2010 Los Angeles     F    Querrey        7–5, 6–7(2), 3–6                   (1MP)
2008 Miami           R64  Ancic          2–6, 6–2, 6–7(7)                   (2MP)

MP SAVED (11)            

2017 Dubai           QF   Kohlschreiber  6–7(4), 7–6(18), 6–1               (7MP)!
2016 London WTF      SF   Raonic         5–7, 7–6(5), 7–6(9)                (1MP)
2015 Cincinnati      R16  Dimitrov       4–6, 7–6(3), 7–5                   (1MP)
2014 Valencia        F    Robredo        3–6, 7–6(7), 7–6(8)                (5MP)
2014 Shenzhen        F    Robredo        5–7, 7–6(9), 6–1                   (5MP)
2014 Cincinnati      R16  Isner          6–7(3), 6–4, 7–6(2)                (2MP)
2013 Miami           F    Ferrer         2–6, 6–4, 7–6(1)                   (1MP)
2007 St. Petersburg  SF   Youzhny        6–2, 5–7, 7–6(1)                   (1MP)
2007 Miami           R16  Mathieu        2–6, 7–5, 6–3                      (2MP)
2007 Indian Wells    QF   Haas           3–6, 6–3, 7–6(8)                   (2MP)
2006 Newport         R32  Mello          6–1, 1–6, 7–6(5)                   (5MP)

Slams are most important, make goat the goat...No?

Let's see...
Wasted:
Novak...0
Rafa...0
Murray...0
Roger...6




Real goat he is...

 

[Fiero425]

Slams are most important, make goat the goat...No?

Let's see...
Wasted:
Novak...0
Rafa...0
Murray...0
Roger...6




Real goat he is...

I didn't watch it, but most consider that '13 FO a missed opportunity; being called on either touching or going over the net when close to winning the match!

 

[beard]

I didn't watch it, but most consider that '13 FO a missed opportunity; being called on either touching or going over the net when close to winning the match!

You know what match point is?

 

[Lew II]

THE epicness.

@MichaelNadal

 

[MichaelNadal]

THE epicness.

@MichaelNadal

 

[BGod]

15-3 is pure insanity when you look even closer at the 3. Two happened way before he hit his stride.

With those saved I wish there was a tally of consecutive MPs. Novak has had at least three double MPs to save and a triple. That's pretty different from saving MPs one by one.

 

[Biotic]

The most impressive were those 4 he saved back in 2012 vs Tsonga at RG.

That was unbelievable, and still is.

Felt bad for Tsonga, but surely not for French tennis federation president Gachassin. His demeanor just made it sweeter.

 

[N01E]

The most impressive were those 4 he saved back in 2012 vs Tsonga at RG.

That was unbelievable, and still is.

Felt bad for Tsonga, but surely not for French tennis federation president Gachassin. His demeanor just made it sweeter.

The best part was when the stadium became near empty after the 4th set tb. Couldn't get any worse for Jo.

 

[Biotic]

The best part was when the stadium became near empty after the 4th set tb. Couldn't get any worse for Jo.

Yup. He was left for dead.

 

[beard]

The most impressive were those 4 he saved back in 2012 vs Tsonga at RG.

That was unbelievable, and still is.

Felt bad for Tsonga, but surely not for French tennis federation president Gachassin. His demeanor just made it sweeter.

And in next match Novak revanche Federer for 2011 rg

 

[mwym]

15-3 in matches
47-7 in points

I just wonder at which exact numbers achieved Djokovic will not be compared to other players any more. Is it 30-3 in matches and 70-7 in points?

Which difference in quantity is sufficient for all to become aware it is actually different quality aka - 'something else'?

Watching but not seeing, seeing but not grasping. Which brings the question - why only 'eye test' to comprehend beyond simple comparisons of absolute and relative numbers? We humans have mind.

Therefore, what prevents a 'mind test'?

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

I just wonder at which exact numbers achieved Djokovic will not be compared to other players any more. Is it 30-3 in matches and 70-7 in points?

Match points saved is the only mental strength metric that exists or has any significance at all whatsoever? Really?

 

[Deleted member 629564]

Federer 2020 Aus Open        QF   Sandgren       6–3, 2–6, 2–6, 7–6(8), 6–3         (7MP)!!
Federer 2003 Cincinnati      R64  Draper         4–6, 6–3, 7–6(10)                  (7MP)!!
Murray  2017 Dubai           QF   Kohlschreiber  6–7(4), 7–6(18), 6–1               (7MP)!

Looks like 7 matchpoints is the limit.
No more.

 

[jm1980]

Murray makes an appearance!

Comes back from 0-2 down and saves 1 MP (on serve) to win against Nishioka

 

[Standaa]

Muri GOAT

 

[NoleFam]

Wow. I couldn't watch the match but go Murray!

 

[Mark-Touch]

Murray makes an appearance!

Comes back from 0-2 down and saves 1 MP (on serve) to win against Nishioka

Yes yes, we know.
But it will all be in vain.

 

[Mkiske]

Murray, awesome!

 

[Sunny014]

Nice Stats.

 

[Tennis_Freak99]

Noice, May-July 2019 was a busy period for this thread. Incredible

 

[Third Serve]

Bumping this before anyone else gets the chance

 

[N01E]

Bumping this before anyone else gets the chance

few seconds too late

 

[Gonzo_style]

U can always count on Fred to keep this thread alive

 

[wang07]

Fed has now squandered MPs in 15 different tournaments, 23 matches total. quite unbelievable

 

[Mkiske]

It's not possible! Again, Federer?

 

[-NN-]

It's not possible! Again, Federer?

Tell me it ain't so! He didn't, did he?

No...

 

[MichaelNadal]

Fed has now squandered MPs in 15 different tournaments, 23 matches total. quite unbelievable

 

[I Am Finnish]

Fed has now squandered MPs in 15 different tournaments, 23 matches total. quite unbelievable

He is the goat for a reason

 

[Deleted member 629564]

This is amazing thread, added to Watched list.

 

[Sephiroth]

Bumping this before anyone else gets the chance

The OP made this thread in beginning of 2017, feel like he's jinxed your boy lol

 

[jm1980]

The OP made this thread in beginning of 2017, feel like he's jinxed your boy lol

This used to be a reply on some other thread, so it's existed in some fashion for a while

 

[Sudacafan]

Fed is not the unanimous GOAT because he just doesn’t want to.

 

[SonnyT]

Thiem is the Wasting King. He wasted Fed twice, and Rafa once!

He's the only one to waste multiple members of the Big 4.

 

[Sudacafan]

Can we add to the trivia: first player squandering a MP in the first tournament after a recess of more than one year?

 

[SonnyT]

There should be a sell-by date of 40. Anything he does after that date should not count against him!

 

[ForehandRF]

Can we add to the trivia: first player squandering a MP in the first tournament after a recess of more than one year?

It's not like Fed could have done any better on that point though.

 

[Sudacafan]

It's not like Fed could have done any better on that point though.

OK, but it will always happen to him.

 

[ForehandRF]

OK, but it will always happen to him.

True, but it's better to happen in smaller tournaments and not against the elite players

 

[Sudacafan]

True, but it's better to happen in smaller tournaments and not against the elite players

What a relief! If he loses MPs in a Wimbledon final against any of the other two Big Three members, I may kill myself.

 

[ForehandRF]

What a relief! If he loses MPs in a Wimbledon final against any of the other two Big Three members, I may kill myself.

Lol

 

[Pheasant]

Match point squandered by Federer. ARRRGGGGHHH!