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That’s what we’ve been talking about.Match point squandered by Federer. ARRRGGGGHHH!
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That’s what we’ve been talking about.Match point squandered by Federer. ARRRGGGGHHH!
https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/cet4ja
Apparently we have two new additions, 2001 Paris 2R vs Jiri Novak and 2002 Rotterdam QF vs Nicolas Escude (1 MP missed both times). Could anyone pull any older sources on that?
I was able to find this report on the 2001 Novak match, and I'm now comfortable adding it to the list:I saw this post but couldn't find sources corroborating that Fed had MP in these matches. I'm hesitant to add them to the list until I can find more sources. I even tried looking into Swiss and German sources
I was able to find a report on the Escude match, which says he was down 3-5 in the TB but won 3 straight points (for 6-5). But it doesn't say if Fed had a MP at 7-6 or 8-7.
Thanks! What a relief!I think I finally cracked the mystery. The sources claiming Federer had a match point against Escude in their 2002 Rotterdam match all trace back to Simon Graf, a Swiss journalist. According to Simon himself (source), the match point came at 6-5 in the second set tiebreaker.
However, this is contradicted by all other independent sources:
On Friday, the 25-year-old trailed 3-5 in the second-set tiebreak before reeling off three straight points and holding on to knot the contest. (source)
Mené 5-3 dans le tie-break, il [Escude] a réussi un petit miracle pour égaliser à une manche partout. (source)
There were several mini breaks before Escude levelled the match by clinching the tiebreak 10-8 on his fourth set point. (source)
The facts are:
1. Federer led 5-3
2. Escude won 3 points in a row after that
3. Escude converted on his 4th set point
4. Tiebreaker ended 10-8
There is only one possible sequence of points that respects these conditions. Simon's version that Federer had one match point at 6-5 (or at any score, really) contradicts bullet points 2 and 3 (since Escude would have had a maximum of 3 set points)
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The German version of the swissinfo.ch article on the match also claims Federer was two points away from winning (source):
Federer war in einer Neuauflage des letztjährigen Finals im Tiebreak des zweiten Satzes zwei Gewinnpunkte von einer gelungenen Revanche entfernt.
Unless some new evidence comes to light, it's safe to say Federer did NOT have a match point in this match.
Yup. Nadal saved a MP to win the final.Well, it will be updated soon, so might as well bump now.
Yes, that's why I commented when both had MPs. It was quite difficult for that match not to appear here afterwards.Yup. Nadal saved a MP to win the final.
He handed it to Shapo then took it back actually.Save #16 for Nadal with today's win over Shapo.
Yup. 16-8.Save #16 for Nadal with today's win over Shapo.
Tiafoe gave this match away to an old man who didn't do much but stay in points until the NG'r blew it with UFE or ambitious shot making! LOSER!A Murray update, 2 MP saved against Tiafoe in the 3rd set tiebreaker (both on Murray's own serve) in Antwerp
Tiafoe gave this match away to an old man who didn't do much but stay in points until the NG'r blew it with UFE or ambitious shot making! LOSER!![]()
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Lol...didn't do much? Only took Tiafoe to THREE breakers and had leads in ALL of them at some point!!Tiafoe gave this match away to an old man who didn't do much but stay in points until the NG'r blew it with UFE or ambitious shot making! LOSER!![]()
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Tiafoe was serving for 1st set w/ MP's and couldn't do it! It was a pathetic performance! Murray really didn't do anything special besides attack the net a couple times!Lol...didn't do much? Only took Tiafoe to THREE breakers and had leads in ALL of them at some point!!![]()
Andy was quite far from the net when he hit this one!Tiafoe was serving for 1st set w/ MP's and couldn't do it! It was a pathetic performance! Murray really didn't do anything special besides attack the net a couple times!![]()
Poor thing had 7 Match Points and couldn't close on a "Lucky Loser," Dom Koepfer in Paris today! WHO? I think Murray's been playing too much, getting too many free passes into events! It should stop just to save the old fool from himself playing that ridiculous defensive style which got him put under the knife in the first place! What an idiot!Murray, Murray...![]()
I just watched the 3rd set! I'm not sure, but I may have heard Murray was up a set and a break in the 2nd, but still allowed this to happen again!@jm1980 , please update general summary in first post of the thread. With the 7 MP wasted in this match, Murray sets the Big Four record for the quantity of MP squandered in the same match, breaking the prior record of 5 MP jointly held by Federer, Nadal and himself. Those 7 MP came in two different games: the first two MP when Murray served for the match at 5-4 40-15 in the third set, and 5 MP later in the tiebreaker. Koepfer only needed his first MP to close the match. Final score Koepfer wins 6/4 5/7 7/6(11/9).
Nope, Murray had lost the first set of the match, and he was never a break up in the third set.I just watched the 3rd set! I'm not sure, but I may have heard Murray was up a set and a break in the 2nd, but still allowed this to happen again!![]()
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I may have been thinking of the other Brit; Evans was up a set and a break allowig Bublik to come back and defeat him in 3 sets!Nope, Murray had lost the first set of the match, and he was never a break up in the third set.
I corrected above where I said that Murray served for the match, it was actually Koepfer who was serving in those first 2 MP.
MUR 1-2 KOE | Andy Murray - Dominik Koepfer
www.flashscore.com
MUR 1-2 KOE | Andy Murray - Dominik Koepfer
www.flashscore.com
I just looked at the list in the first post of this thread, and Paris 2012Puts even 2012 Shanghai in the shade and I never ever thought that possible!!!![]()
Unfreaking believable. Going to watch highlights now for sure.@jm1980 , please update general summary in first post of the thread.
With the 7 MP wasted in this match, Murray sets the Big Four record for the quantity of MP squandered in the same match, breaking the prior record of 5 MP jointly held by Federer, Nadal and himself.
Those 7 MP came in two different games: the first two MP when Koepfer served 4/5 15/40 in the third set, and 5 MP later in the tiebreaker.
Koepfer only needed his first MP to close the match. Final score Koepfer wins 6/4 5/7 7/6(11/9).
That makes it even worse. Sometimes players get aced or have no play on the ball and end up in this thread. Here however, he was in a rally in every single match point:Unfreaking believable. Going to watch highlights now for sure.
Very reminiscent of the Kyrgios-Gasquet match to me.That makes it even worse. Sometimes players get aced or have no play on the ball and end up in this thread. Here however, he was in a rally in every single match point:
Nadal saves four match points in third set tiebreaker after wasting two in the second set against Goffin
[/QUOTUpdate very quickly, tks
I hope he wasn't satisfied! He was just about eliminated on clay by someone like Goffin with no real weapons! Truly pathetic for someone with his ego!Nadal saves four match points in third set tiebreaker after wasting two in the second set against Goffin
Great thread.Nadal saves four match points in third set tiebreaker after wasting two in the second set against Goffin