Match Stats/Report - Nadal vs Djokovic, French Open final, 2020

wang07

Semi-Pro
Probably one of the weirdest stats I've seen for a game I watched live. I never would have guessed Djoker had more winners, Rafa basically played a perfect match.

Seems like the eye test is wrong once again. :cool:
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
It was a good performance from Djokovic, but Nadal was just too much. Nadal at RG has the highest peak in the history of tennis, so Djokovic losing against a well-playing Nadal at RG is unsurprising. Djokovic was likely beating any other player not named Nadal.

The opening game is the not the whole match, so Djokovic failing in the strategy with 3 drop shots in the beginning game does not represent an analysis of the whole game. Especially when Nadal was breaking Djokovic's serve regardless of his strategy. Nadal broke Djokovic's serve even when he didn't attempt any drop shot, proving it was not a problem of strategy. Nadal was just too good.

Djokovic commited a high number of unforced errors because Nadal forced him too. Let us remember that at RG 2020 new ultra-heavy balls were used. With the aforementioned ultra-heavy balls the playing conditions were extra-slow. Henceforth, Nadal could reach almost all defensive balls. It forced Djokovic, who was playing very aggresively, to always attempt an extra-shot till he failed due to Nadal's impenetrable defense. Due to the ultra-heavy balls and heavily slow playing conditions, Nadal's defense was impassable.
 

Beckerserve

Legend
It was an excellent performance from Djokovic, but Nadal was just too good. Nadal at RG has the highest peak in the history of tennis, so Djokovic losing against a well-playing Nadal at RG is unsurprising. Djokovic was likely beating any other player not named Nadal.

The opening game is the not the whole match, so Djokovic failing in the strategy with 3 drop shots in the beginning game does not represent an analysis of the whole game. Especially when Nadal was breaking Djokovic's serve regardless of his strategy. Nadal broke Djokovic's serve even when he didn't attempt any drop shot, proving it was not a problem of strategy. Nadal was just too good.

Djokovic commited a high number of unforced errors because Nadal forced him too. Let us remember that at RG 2020 new ultra-heavy balls were used. With the aforementioned ultra-heavy balls the playing conditions were extra-slow. Henceforth, Nadal could reach almost all defensive balls. It forced Djokovic, who was playing very aggresively, to always attempt an extra-shot till he failed due to Nadal's impenetrable defense. Due to the ultra-heavy balls and heavily slow playing conditions, Nadal's defense was impassable.
Its why i do not see Djokovic beating Nadal at a Major outside ultra fast Australia. Djokovic does not have the power to hit through Nadal which in his physical state nowadays he would need to do. Nadal will outgrind him on slower surfaces.
Nadal is vulnerable to guys with awesome raw power if they can cut errors out.
 

ElisRF

Hall of Fame
It was a good performance from Djokovic, but Nadal was just too much. Nadal at RG has the highest peak in the history of tennis, so Djokovic losing against a well-playing Nadal at RG is unsurprising. Djokovic was likely beating any other player not named Nadal.

The opening game is the not the whole match, so Djokovic failing in the strategy with 3 drop shots in the beginning game does not represent an analysis of the whole game. Especially when Nadal was breaking Djokovic's serve regardless of his strategy. Nadal broke Djokovic's serve even when he didn't attempt any drop shot, proving it was not a problem of strategy. Nadal was just too good.

Djokovic commited a high number of unforced errors because Nadal forced him too. Let us remember that at RG 2020 new ultra-heavy balls were used. With the aforementioned ultra-heavy balls the playing conditions were extra-slow. Henceforth, Nadal could reach almost all defensive balls. It forced Djokovic, who was playing very aggresively, to always attempt an extra-shot till he failed due to Nadal's impenetrable defense. Due to the ultra-heavy balls and heavily slow playing conditions, Nadal's defense was impassable.
But Roddick pushing Federer in 16-14 in Wimb 2009 on grass in his prime was a mug display yes?
 

MeatTornado

G.O.A.T.
I think it was just desperation tactics. You have to keep your opponent honest with your ground game in the first place before they (dropshots) can actually work as a tactic.

For whatever reason Novak simply knew he wouldn't be able to hang with Nadal from the baseline that day the way he has in the past (even on clay).
Dunno how anyone can say this was a good performance LOL. The three drop shots in the opening game reeked of desperation: Djokovic was cooked from the start.
I don't think it was desperation. If you watch any of his 2020 matches, he was spamming drop shots left and right. It had just become a mindless go-to tactic for him that for some reason he'd gotten away with in the months previous. If anything it came across more like arrogance than desperation, thinking that would also work against Nadal like it did everyone else. He throttled back on them hard after Nadal immediately exposed him in game 1.

Reminded me a bit of the SABR Fed was successfully doing all summer in 2015. He does a couple in the final against Novak, gets immediately exposed and that was basically the end of it. Gimmicks don't work against a player of that caliber in a major final.
 
I don't think it was desperation. If you watch any of his 2020 matches, he was spamming drop shots left and right. It had just become a mindless go-to tactic for him that for some reason he'd gotten away with in the months previous. If anything it came across more like arrogance than desperation, thinking that would also work against Nadal like it did everyone else. He throttled back on them hard after Nadal immediately exposed him in game 1.

Reminded me a bit of the SABR Fed was successfully doing all summer in 2015. He does a couple in the final against Novak, gets immediately exposed and that was basically the end of it. Gimmicks don't work against a player of that caliber in a major final.
Djoe had about 50-50 success on droppers overall (same as SABRerer in fact), wouldn't be a problem if the rest of his game wasn't messy. If anything, he lost the first game on two mug smashes in back-to-back points from deuce, where instead of putting the ball away he hit it back to Nadal, who retook control of the point and squeezed an error. Djokosmash is a meme but we know Joe isn't that bad actually, just misses them a bit more often, and those weren't even misses. Such stuff in the first game certainly indicates he was shook from the outset.
 

GabeT

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic arguably choked. He often does when there is much on the line and there is a grudge match. FO 2012, USO 2013, WTF 19 v Federer WTF 2016 v Murray. It is why i feel he will.never get to Nadal and Federer.
You also thought Novak was through winning slams and would lose the AO.

lucky for Novak your predictions are terrible.
 

Beckerserve

Legend
You also thought Novak was through winning slams and would lose the AO.

lucky for Novak your predictions are terrible.
Nope. I said Djokovic would get 18 at AO. You are confusing my prediction for the final with what i predicted before the event.
 
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