Matching strings to rackets

toby55555

Hall of Fame
With my last string order was enclosed a large advert from Tecnifibre:
'Choose your string according to the weight of your racket'

Rackets -300g
Light & easy to swing
But 43% less power, 18% more shocks

Solution: Mulitifilament
100-400% elasticity for max power and shock absorption

Rackets +300g
Powerful & stable
But require a good technical level and advanced physical skills

Solution: Poly Monofilament
Controls power and spin

This seems like a load of nonsense to me but I hesitate to argue with one of the leading manufacturers of strings, the ATP official string no less.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
I think its probably good advice. How many recreational elbows have been ruined by poly strings in light stiff frames. I think Technifibre is telling the average joe blow to wise up. Either learn better technique and hit with a heavier racket before you take on poly strings or live with light easy swinging rackets but be sensible about your string choice. Most lady rec players with Babolat PD Lite's don't need poly strings in their rackets, not matter how much they want to be like the pros. A soft multi will boost their game far more.
 

toby55555

Hall of Fame
Well I have a 315g racket strung with multifilamen around 56lbs. Does this mean I'm not getting as much control as I should and would be better off with a lighter racket. No way I'm going to use poly as I used to have a sensitive elbow.
I'm suspicious that a lighter racket would hurt my elbow even if strung with multifilament. They tend to be head heavy to get the power.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
I think there's some merit to Tecnifibre's advertising but it stops short. They have a cutoff by weight when you should go from multi to poly strings. The string bed will deflect so far depending on the incoming ball speed, racket speed and the DT or string bed stiffness. But all strings do not deflect at a constant rate. For instance, if the string bed has a stiffness of 34 that does not mean it will deflect 0.5 cm at 17 kg. And if the stringbed deflects 1 cm when a static 34 kg force is applied how does it react with the dynamic collision of .005 sec?
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
With my last string order was enclosed a large advert from Tecnifibre:
'Choose your string according to the weight of your racket'

Rackets -300g
Light & easy to swing
But 43% less power, 18% more shocks

Solution: Mulitifilament
100-400% elasticity for max power and shock absorption

Rackets +300g
Powerful & stable
But require a good technical level and advanced physical skills

Solution: Poly Monofilament
Controls power and spin

This seems like a load of nonsense to me but I hesitate to argue with one of the leading manufacturers of strings, the ATP official string no less.
Add:

380g+

Solution: Kevlar Hybrid
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Well I have a 315g racket strung with multifilamen around 56lbs. Does this mean I'm not getting as much control as I should and would be better off with a lighter racket. No way I'm going to use poly as I used to have a sensitive elbow.
I'm suspicious that a lighter racket would hurt my elbow even if strung with multifilament. They tend to be head heavy to get the power.

I don't think that's what they mean. I think they want to keep people with light rackets away from board like poly. Once you move to heavier rackets, they can utilize the spin advantages of poly better. But that doesn't mean folks with elbow issues should switch your strings.

As someone that killed his arm with a 285 gm racquet and Alu power rough hybrid, I can tell you the control and spin was awesome. The elbow pain sucked though.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
I don't think that's what they mean. I think they want to keep people with light rackets away from board like poly. Once you move to heavier rackets, they can utilize the spin advantages of poly better. But that doesn't mean folks with elbow issues should switch your strings.

As someone that killed his arm with a 285 gm racquet and Alu power rough hybrid, I can tell you the control and spin was awesome. The elbow pain sucked though.
IME if you have a heavy enough racquet with a high enough swing weight you can play with any string and not risk elbow/ wrist issues.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
The heavier the racket the stiffer the stringbed. The lighter the racket the softer the stringbed. Usually, but all rules haves exceptions. Therefore if you want to play with poly in a light racket lower your tension below the min, and if you want Gut in a heavy racket raise the tension above the max.
 

toby55555

Hall of Fame
Let's say I switched form my PK Q5 315 to a PK Q5+ 295 and kept NXT at around 56lbs
The heavier frame is 8pts HL with a SW of 320, the lighter one would be 3pts HL with a SW of 316
What do you think the gains and losses might be.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
IME if you have a heavy enough racquet with a high enough swing weight you can play with any string and not risk elbow/ wrist issues.

But those I find harder on the shoulder.

I still find that a 11-12 oz racket with low RA and a soft string will be the best setup for the average rec player.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Let's say I switched form my PK Q5 315 to a PK Q5+ 295 and kept NXT at around 56lbs
The heavier frame is 8pts HL with a SW of 320, the lighter one would be 3pts HL with a SW of 316
What do you think the gains and losses might be.

Virtually no difference.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
But those I find harder on the shoulder.

I still find that a 11-12 oz racket with low RA and a soft string will be the best setup for the average rec player.
Yeah i can see that. One needs a stick just heavy enough that it doesnt mess up the shoulder. For me at least that seems to be around 15oz maybe more
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Yeah i can see that. One needs a stick just heavy enough that it doesnt mess up the shoulder. For me at least that seems to be around 15oz maybe more

My shoulder just aches thinking about lugging that sledge hammer around. But if you are built like a brick $hithouse, then wield away.

Personally I try to match weight with pace of shot I'm facing. At 3.5 you rarely face anything powerful enough to strain a 12 oz racket. When I play 4.0's or 4.5's 13 oz seems to hold up a bit better.
 

toby55555

Hall of Fame
But those I find harder on the shoulder.

I still find that a 11-12 oz racket with low RA and a soft string will be the best setup for the average rec player.
Pretty much my set up with overgrip,and dampener my strung racket weighs in at 342g or 11.06oz
 
Interesting thread, and I’ve seen the same advertisement from Technifiber. However during all of my testing, I’ve come up with a theory of what works best for me. I played with Fischer’s (vacuum 90) and pro staffs for years, coming it at around 340 unstrung and close to 355-360 on court, and was always trying to find a lighter racket to change to (I’m really not good enough to play with those two heavy frames - certainly not any more !). I’ve tested all sorted of rackets and millions of string setups - just cos I enjoy it really).
What I ended up liking in terms of setup, in general, was softer strings in the heavy rackets, and poly in the lighter rackets. Two main reasons for my preference are : 1. On the heavier racket - the softer string added to the feel and power. As a side note - I didn’t like gut, as I really noticed the extra weight (I must be super sensitive to weight / balance - a product of using 6 Fischer’s - whose weight from racket to racket really did vary hugely. 2. On lighter rackets, where you can really get fast racket head speed - I preferred poly strings. The light racket I’m using is a babolat Vs strike VS (295g model but they’re a little heavier, and with grips etc are def over 300g unstrung. ). In order to keep the control - I need to have the strings around 56 or 57 (Technifiber Razorcode 1.20 are my favorite- after a huge amount of experimentation!).

As a side note - on tennis elbow - I ended up getting really bad tennis elbow when I moved from a Fischer (30 year old frame that is so flexible it’s probably technically broken), to the Babolat initially. Was within 3-4 weeks that my elbow went. I was sure it was the racket or the string tension (tension for Fischer’s was poly at 46 or 48, vs Black Code 1.20 at 56 in the Babolat). I’m now currently back playing with the Babolat, but with Razorcode , which strangely enough I find plusher than the the Black Code although I know that doesn’t sound correct).
I’ve come to the conclusion that the main issue that maybe caused my elbow issues was either bad luck / old age (I’m 39 by the way), or that the fact I was able to swing the Babolat so much faster than the Fischer’s meant the elbow had a lot more to deal with in terms of the actual swing itself. The impact / shock my well have not helped, but given that I’m now playing with same frame at 57 on Razorcode and tennis elbow is no longer there should rule out the tension argument really.

Ps. I use a fairly eastern forehand grip (was a necessary change from semi western when was playing with the Fischer’s and Wilson’s and I’ve kept it now cos I get slight golfers elbow if I try hit semi western and brush up a lot these days.

Interesting to see any/many others have an similar results in their testing. I string for a few friends and some have 315g rackets and some have 300 , and most like they’re tension around 56-58 (they all like Black Code).

Two exceptions for stringing / tension I experienced was with Lux 4G (and soft version), and Pacific XCite - those two stings needed to be strung a lot less in my experience - and were still ultra stiff. I loved both - but around the 50/52lbs mark in comparison to other softer copolys around 57.
 
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