Mats is the Man

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by snapple, Jun 11, 2007.

  1. snapple

    snapple Rookie

    Oct 25, 2006
    Mats correctly claimed that Fed would never beat Nadal on clay when it really mattered (Hamburg was irrelevant) due to the shrinkage of a certain part of his anatomy that occurs every time he plays Nadal on clay. It's not just that he loses, it's the way he loses...looking like a beatan man as soon as the going gets tough. Mats is right on target with his analysis, and I give him much credit for having the "wilanders" for saying what many others are thinking.
  2. austro

    austro Professional

    Sep 3, 2005
    Yet, he was very complimentary of Fed's game throughout and after the match...
  3. forzainter

    forzainter Semi-Pro

    Oct 27, 2006
    that guy seems to love nadal, hes an ainteresting guy to hear commentate
  4. CyBorg

    CyBorg Legend

    Mar 8, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    I don't know if Mats 'loves' Nadal, but he's definitely a fan of Federer's. The harsh comments point to his disappointment after last year's FO loss, hence the emotional, but not altogether incorrect, reaction.

    It's no secret that Mats wanted Roger to win.
  5. Bassus

    Bassus Rookie

    Jun 17, 2006
    Putting aside the comments about testicular fortitude, does Mats offer any tactical advice for Federer?
  6. alwaysatnet

    alwaysatnet Semi-Pro

    Feb 20, 2004
    Mats was the brainiest of players when he competed and now he's proving the same as a commentator/tennis writer and blogger.
    Fed does fold up like an origami swan when competing against Nadal in the French Open and things won't change until Federer competes better against the sweaty Spanish spin monkey.
    He can't be a better Nadal than Nadal is. But he can be a better Federer by not playing into Nadal's strengths, as difficult as that may be.
    At least he can lose on his own terms if indeed he can't beat Nadal on clay.
    He would do well to tap into Mats' tactical brainpower.
  7. Puma

    Puma Rookie

    Feb 25, 2004

    You hit it right on the head. You are right, Fed cannot best Nadal at Nadals game. He can best everyone else on anyother surface and has proved it. I guess maybe that is the beauty of his mystic. But, on clay, unless Fed finds another set of tactics, he aint gonna beat that kid. Nadal is too good on too many different levels.
  8. tomahawk

    tomahawk New User

    Feb 22, 2004
    The only way Fed is going to beat Nadal at Roland Garros is if he plays a perfect match. But the odds of that happening are small. After watching the match yesterday, I'm convinced that Fed will never win the French Open as long as he faces Nadal in the Final. But I don't see anyone beating Nadal there. Which is kind of sad because I would love to see Nadal win a slam on something other than clay.
  9. ElSuegro

    ElSuegro Rookie

    Jan 9, 2007
    alwaysat net is right. Federer just let Nadal play his own game, that nobody can beat. I kept waiting for Federer to throw in some surprises, but he hardly ever did. Even McEnroe kept saying things like crowd the service line on a second serve break point, chip and charge, hit short balls and drop shots to force Nadal to come in and play the net, but it just didn't happen. I think Federer needs a tactical coach, at least for the French. He has proven that he doesn't need anything on any other surface, but that he needs something in Paris. One semifinal and two runner-ups is good and all, but Federer's amazing talent should deliver a title, at least in my opinion.
  10. dunloplayah

    dunloplayah Rookie

    May 11, 2007
    Central Arkansas
    I wish i'd gotten to hear his commentary on the game. I noticed that Mac was biased towards Fed and Mary (deep voice) carrillo was all about nadal.
  11. bluetrain4

    bluetrain4 Legend

    Feb 2, 2007
    I also like Mats, because he said that Nadal now has to forget about the French and concentrate his energy elsewhere. According to Mats, Nadal has won three in a row and it's time to make adjustments so he can win another Slam. (BTW, this is from a Bonnie DeSimone article on

    Yes, of course, play the French, compete hard, and still maybe win. But, Rafa's clay court mastery has been proven, it's time to broaden his game and his legacy. As great as he is, the more FOs he wins without winning something else, the more of a specialist he becomes in history, even if that isn't entirely fair due to his decent record in other slams and non-slam wins on other surfaces.

    Mats is right on. The more FOs he wins, the more pressure there is to win somewhere else.
  12. Wondertoy

    Wondertoy Professional

    Feb 22, 2006
    Well for one thing, Fed should accept the fact that he cannot beat Rafa from the baseline at the French. If he would accept this FACT then he would force himself to attack MORE. However Fed may not be comfortable attacking as he is more of a natural baseliner. Hell with Rafa receiving serve 12 feet back, throw in some S&V which he did with success in the 2nd set. But then again he goes back to baseline play....what is he thinking?
  13. emcee

    emcee Semi-Pro

    Feb 21, 2004
    His strategy put him in a position to win. If he had converted 33% of his break chances which isn't unreasonable against a guy with a weak serve, he might've won the the match!

    Problem was his execution, which may or may not be related to his balls. He also played like crap against Davydenko...maybe he just had a bit of slump. Stuff happens.
  14. jetlee2k

    jetlee2k Banned

    Jan 10, 2007
    As a Federer fan I must say Mat is right.. Fed played below his standard. He looked lost outthere in last year and this year final. He was feeding the ball back to Nadal. What happened to his varieties? He can sliced, dropped.. volleys.. he did not do much except trying to rally backhand at the baseline against Nadal.. That was very frustrating to watch. He was lucky to win one set during the final. Fed must accept the fact that he can not beat Nadal at the baseline rally and move on...

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