Max Mirnyi to join Nishikori's team

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Recently retired Max Mirnyi is set to join Kei Nishikori's coaching team at least for the 2020 season.

Nishikori last played at the US Open in September but has since been sidelined with injury. He plans to make his come-back by representing Japan at the inaugural ATP Cup (3-12 January).

 

blablavla

Legend
I mean yeah totally makes sense, they play so alike.

Is Mirnyi's goal to teach Nishikori to grow taller and serve like Isner?
didn't Federer do a similar move, assumably to end points faster?
didn't Djokovic hire first Becker and then Ivanisovic?

Let's say Nishikori still wants to play pro tennis, and he understands that grinding won't help him.
What are his choice?
Learn to win points faster.
So, he needs to improve his FH and / or volley skills
Could Mirnyi help him with some of this?
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
didn't Federer do a similar move, assumably to end points faster?
didn't Djokovic hire first Becker and then Ivanisovic?

Let's say Nishikori still wants to play pro tennis, and he understands that grinding won't help him.
What are his choice?
Learn to win points faster.
So, he needs to improve his FH and / or volley skills
Could Mirnyi help him with some of this?
Well yeah but do you honestly think that Nishikori can suddenly do a 180 degree turn and start attacking the net on a consistent basis when he's 30 years old?
 

blablavla

Legend
Well yeah but do you honestly think that Nishikori can suddenly do a 180 degree turn and start attacking the net on a consistent basis when he's 30 years old?
what are his options?

keep grinding, get injuries
retire
try to change the game

what would you choose?
by the way, did I miss any option?
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
what are his options?

keep grinding, get injuries
retire
try to change the game

what would you choose?
by the way, did I miss any option?
This is like you told Isner to stay back. Not everyone's the big 3 that they can literally do anything on the court and still be successful. And not everyone has the body which can take the wear and tear of the tour, actually only few do. I think Nishikori would do better if he improved the elements that he's good at and introduced more exercises which would help him prevent injuries, like Fed does now with his back (when was the last time he injured his back and he's 38?).

But yeah mixing it up a bit in this day and age with zero net rushers could help Nishikori a little bit but he'd have to go through a trial period first to see if he has it in him. He's an ultra talented baseliner but I think that's that.

I mean if it was so easy to just bring in a new team member who knows how to hit a volley or two and suddenly earn more free points everyone would be doing it.
 
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blablavla

Legend
This is like you told Isner to stay back. Not everyone's the big 3 that they can literally do anything on the court and still be successful. And not everyone has the body which can take the wear and tear of the tour, actually only few do. I think Nishikori would do better if he improved the elements that he's good at and introduced more exercises which would help him prevent injuries, like Fed does now with his back (when was the last time he injured his back and he's 38?).

But yeah mixing it up a bit in this day and age with zero net rushers could help Nishikori a little bit but he'd have to go through a trial period first to see if he has it in him. He's an ultra talented baseliner but I think that's that.

I mean if it was so easy to just bring in a new team member who knows how to hit a volley or two and suddenly earn more free points everyone would be doing it.
perhaps he visits this forum, read a thread where local experts decided that Federer is successful because he is the only one attacking the net, with the rest of the tour not knowing how to counter-act that, and he decided to hire Mirnyi :)
that's the power of ttw
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
understands that grinding won't help him.
Learn to win points faster.
So, he needs to improve his FH and / or volley skills
Could Mirnyi help him with some of this?
Max was a grinder, so no help on any of this. Max's volleys are no better than Kei's have ever been. In any case, it will almost impossible for Kei to do any of this when he's already 30 years old. The only great player who ever learned to volley well and become an attacker was Connors and his skill set is far above anything Kei is capable of.
 

blablavla

Legend
Max was a grinder, so no help on any of this. Max's volleys are no better than Kei's have ever been. In any case, it will almost impossible for Kei to do any of this when he's already 30 years old. The only great player who ever learned to volley well and become an attacker was Connors and his skill set is far above anything Kei is capable of.
are we talking about same Max Mirnyi?

perhaps you have some links where he was grinding his points?
cause all I can find (and remember) is lot of aces and lot of serve & volley + attack the net all day long.
 

snvplayer

Hall of Fame
Interesting move by Nishikori. I guess Nisikori wants to improve his attacking game - approach, covering the net, etc. But, Mirnyi was all about attacking using his size, power, and reach rather than working his way upto the net with his groundstrokes and positioning. So, I am a bit skeptical how effective this dynamic would be.

Also, Michael Chang is already on the team - though Chang, I am sure, values the net game, his perspective on how Nishikori should play and attack the net would differ from Mirnyi's........
 

MeatTornado

G.O.A.T.
I'd love to get inside the head of someone like Nishikori, who's about to turn 30 and has been treading water for about 5 years now. Physically, his best years are already behind him. Does he still go into each new season with the same kind of optimism he had when he was 25? Does he still think "this is the year" each January and if he tweaks 1 or 2 things it'll be his breakout?

Or is he just fully concerned with remaining healthy and whatever happens from there happens.
 

Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
I'd love to get inside the head of someone like Nishikori, who's about to turn 30 and has been treading water for about 5 years now. Physically, his best years are already behind him. Does he still go into each new season with the same kind of optimism he had when he was 25? Does he still think "this is the year" each January and if he tweaks 1 or 2 things it'll be his breakout?

Or is he just fully concerned with remaining healthy and whatever happens from there happens.
I think he looks at his bank account, smiles, then goes out and gives about 50-70% effort knowing he has it made.
 

snr

Semi-Pro
Kei has always been intriguing in a sense. The guy has a great backhand which is rare these days, and his FH isn't as bad as it seems. Just IMHO, from a technical perspective it has easier power than even Murray's (whos a stronger guy though).

He hits well off the rise when he wants to and he has some amazing movement. in theory he'd be a light version of Agassi without the godly hand eye coordination but quicker. Was just talking from a tools perspective he's obviously no ATG but the potential is there to make it deep. Have the guy be a bit more aggressive as everyone has said.
 

Bender

G.O.A.T.
Recently retired Max Mirnyi is set to join Kei Nishikori's coaching team at least for the 2020 season.

Nishikori last played at the US Open in September but has since been sidelined with injury. He plans to make his come-back by representing Japan at the inaugural ATP Cup (3-12 January).

That's basically a perpetual given for Nishikori isn't it
 
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