travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
I meant the living in Georgia part, not the doping.Did he forget to check her lips before kissing her?
Max Purcell suspended for doping rule violation
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Mainad
Bionic Poster
Obviously you didn't get the joke.
His Wiki entry still gives Sydney as his place of residence.
UnderArmServeOP
Rookie
@Winner Sinner check this out.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
C'mon use your heads
Proximity to doping via Eastern European mafia groups
The rot runs deeper than you know and I've been trying to tell you all
InsuranceMan
Hall of Fame
Ross wtf are you on about you can’t always have the tin foil hat on mate you sound unhinged
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Not anymore. Three doping violations in as many months and all of them grand slam champs. The problem is systemic
Georgia is a sht country, why would a double Grand Slam champ want to live there and not in Monaco or Italy or Spain?
Because in Eastern Europe doping controls aren't as serious and there is an established criminal element to guarantee you access to whatever black-market stuff you want.
The ITIA did a match fixing report, remember? And they found that players from Italy and Eastern Europe were the worst offenders? Including an active Grand Slam champion?
Don't be naive man. It's not a good look
Rovesciarete
Hall of Fame
Indeed, needles should be towards the last resort for an athlete. Curious if such methods are common among Australian athletes...
Winner Sinner
Hall of Fame
2024 has been marked by major controversies related to doping cases in tennis, in particular that of Iga Swiatek, whose handling by the authorities has raised doubts and perplexity among the media and fans. Many have speculated that the Pole was treated preferentially, especially when compared to the severity of the sanction imposed on Simona Halep.
While the appeal of the World Anti-Doping Agency in the Sinner case could further call into question the work of the ITIA, executive director Karen Moorhouse was keen to clarify the position of the organisation in an interview with Tennis365.
Substantial Differences Between the Cases
“The rules applied and the processes followed were the same for all the tennis players,” Moorhouse said. “Every case is different and complex, so it is difficult to equate the doping cases of different players and make comparisons between them, as it is the details that make the difference.”
The Halep vs Swiatek Case
The issue has become particularly heated after Simona Halep complained about what she considers to be persecution against her, especially when compared to the treatment received by Swiatek.
Moorhouse, however, underlined the substantial differences between the cases: “There is no similarity between what happened in the two cases. The CAS ruled that Halep took a contaminated collagen supplement, while in the case of Swiatek it was a regulated drug that she takes regularly. The level of guilt and responsibility of each is very different, since the Polish woman had no way of knowing about the possible contamination.”
The comments come in response to growing controversy over the unequal treatment of tennis doping cases, highlighting how the ITIA seeks to maintain its integrity at a time of intense public scrutiny.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
You increase your vo2 max which allows you to train harder and recover better.
Rovesciarete
Hall of Fame
Bartunkova got for the same logical reason a longer suspension, but obviously quite a few folks around here can't figure that out.
Purcell's treatment raises some serious red flags. I wonder if he got a clear explanation why he took vitamins in this unusual and discouraged manner. Does Australia have a history of intravenous doping?
Ya man I mean I got nothing against Georgia. But if you have decided to make this your home base something is going on. Sorry I know people are gonna come on here and say well it's centrally located and cheap bla bla. Come on, we are entering crazy town here. No player in their right mind would choose to live in Georgia with all the political issues going on there unless there are some special benefits for doing so.
Pmasterfunk
Hall of Fame
There actually is a maximum amount of Caffeine allowed per WADA rules. From what I remember reading the limit is quite high, and the benefits are fairly low considering the drawbacks.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
If I was a pro player, I would cross this "quite high" limit lol
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
Interesting conspiracy theory.
But I’m still thinking the Georgia thing is just because an irresistible Georgian woman got her claws on Max.
Come on dude. Seriously? LOL
RSJfan
Hall of Fame
Raul’s fav and former player and convicted doper Troicki suffers from trypanophobia.
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Rovesciarete
Hall of Fame
He could also have 'volunteered this information' after having to explain some pecularities in his sample after an anti-doping test. Basically getting asked if the got an infusion and of the medical records of it.
So far this seems the most plausible explanation, there might be another one.
RSJfan
Hall of Fame
Raul’s fav WADA has no rhyme or reason. Many of its prohibited substances are not PEDs. WADA will tell you that coffee violates the spirit of sport though.
“Only 5 of 23 substance classes show evidence of having the ability to enhance actual sports performance,”
Review of WADA Prohibited Substances: Limited Evidence for Performance-Enhancing Effects - PMC
The World Anti-Doping Agency is responsible for maintaining a Prohibited List that describes the use of substances and methods that are prohibited for athletes. The list currently contains 23 substance classes, and an important reason for the ...
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flyhome
Semi-Pro
It would have resulted positive tò test in that case, but I'm probably wrong
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Honestly my dude with everything we have seen, your theory is more implausible. Unless you have specific information that he's dating a Georgian woman?
Speaking of doping. Sinner at Moratoglou. So unseemly. Right in our faces
Rovesciarete
Hall of Fame
Not necessarily, the sample might just have shown some pecularities associated with infusions. This will give the lab some pause as it is also a known delivery method for doping. So they asked if he could explain those markers and when he checked his medical records the infusion was over the 100ml threshold. Thus he was ***** and to get a shorter suspension he 'volunteered' said info.
So far the most plausible explanation, didn't see a better one yet.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Sinner looks ready to rumble.
RSJfan
Hall of Fame
This is getting ridiculous.
2024 really is the year of "innocent" doping it seems.
I'll at least give kudos to Purcell for just accepting it and none of the Sinner cream nonsense.
Three scientific experts (two of which didn’t know who the player involved was) found “the Sinner cream nonsense” plausible. So did the ITIA and (from what we know of its appeal so far) WADA.
But Keyboard Karen isn’t buying and wants to speak to the manager.
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If ingesting substances intravenously confers a benefit that ingesting the substance orally does not, every country probably has a history of intravenous doping. In this instance a player, or someone associated with a player has made an error regarding the threshold.
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Three scientific experts (two of which didn’t know who the player involved was) found “the Sinner cream nonsense” plausible. So did the ITIA and (from what we know of its appeal so far) WADA.
But Keyboard Karen isn’t buying and wants to speak to the manager.
Plausible? Yes. Believable? No.
The relevant authorities believed it.
It's very clear that ITIA agenda is not pro-anti-doping.
RSJfan
Hall of Fame
No, they don’t. And each case rests on its own merits not grouped into a “theme“ for resolution.
What precisely needs to be “fixed“?
“Taking excuses right out of the picture” suggests what? That you get a fixed suspension no matter the circumstances involved? That‘s ridiculous and wouldn’t even pass one of WADA’s outside legal opinions intended to bless it’s precious doping Code insofar as it not
I can shove a banned substance down your throat but it doesn’t factor. No excuses!
RSJfan
Hall of Fame
Perhaps you should send your own investigation case files to WADA so it may amend it’s appeal brief to incorporate your findings?
You were not as annoying with your previous username.
LOBALOT
Legend
No, they don’t. And each case rests on its own merits not grouped into a “theme“ for resolution.
What precisely needs to be “fixed“?
“Taking excuses right out of the picture” suggests what? That you get a fixed suspension no matter the circumstances involved? That‘s ridiculous and wouldn’t even pass one of WADA’s outside legal opinions intended to bless it’s precious doping Code insofar as it notscrewing athletesviolating norms in terms of human rights.
I can shove a banned substance down your throat but it doesn’t factor. No excuses!
No it means you test + and you are suspended. I guess if you haven't been following the "stories" the dopers have cooked up then you don't follow tennis.
No one has come up with shoving banned substances down their throat but I am sure that will be the next story we get.
RSJfan
Hall of Fame
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RSJfan
Hall of Fame
No idea what your first paragraph means.
Re the second, that was simply an edge case; the point is that “excuses” (the circumstances under which an ADRV occurs) must be considered in any anti-doping system that isn’t going to be an arbitrary, draconian, punitive system. And you haven’t pointed out what precisely needs to be fixed in the WADA Code because apparently you don’t know other then it should be based more on your own personal smell test?
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RSJfan
Hall of Fame
“Anti Pro-Anti-Doping” would be a cooler motto than the current “Tennis You Can Trust.” Maybe with a sub line like “Protecting Your Tennis Entertainment.”
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
So the whole of Europe from the Elbe to the Caucasus is all cut from the same cloth? This is not a rational analysis.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
There is a clause that allows WADA to ban anything not within "the spirit of sport" and in general they also prohibit substances with the potential to enhance performance.
Raul’s fav WADA has no rhyme or reason. Many of its prohibited substances are not PEDs. WADA will tell you that coffee violates the spirit of sport though.
“Only 5 of 23 substance classes show evidence of having the ability to enhance actual sports performance,”
Review of WADA Prohibited Substances: Limited Evidence for Performance-Enhancing Effects - PMC
The World Anti-Doping Agency is responsible for maintaining a Prohibited List that describes the use of substances and methods that are prohibited for athletes. The list currently contains 23 substance classes, and an important reason for the ...
Born_to_slice
Legend
Incognito
Legend
If Novak had won all his matches against Sinner in 2024, would you still care if he “doped”?
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
Then it would have meant he needed to up the dosing.If Novak had won all his matches against Sinner in 2024, would you still care if he “doped”?
LOBALOT
Legend
Sorry perhaps I should be using Polish or Italian.
You are right there is nothing arbitrary about how the rules are being applied right now
I care about anyone who dopes. They all should be taken out of tennis.If Novak had won all his matches against Sinner in 2024, would you still care if he “doped”?
Incognito
Legend
That’s not what I asked
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
If you are doing me if I care, my answer is yes.
I want to do everything we can to clean up the sport. That means I believe in being tough on dopers.
I have more to gain personally by Purcell’s suspension than anyone, but I honestly hope that Max isn’t doping and that his story is true.
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