McEnroe is a punk...

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Mardy Fish is a joke of a player..why wouldn't you take spadea (who is ranked higher, finished better on the clay all season, willing to play for the team, and is just a better player)

McEnroe needs to be fired as coach..he sucked as a player too...hell, he even stinks as an announcer...

as long as he is in charge..don't expect a davis cup win.
 
Fish could be the next Justin Gimelstob or the next what's his name? you know the pretty boy with the goofy groundies? my brain went out to lunch....:0
 
NoBadMojo said:
Fish could be the next Justin Gimelstob or the next what's his name? you know the pretty boy with the goofy groundies? my brain went out to lunch....:0

LOL, Jan Mike Gambill?

Actually, I haven't made up my mind on Fish...trying to give benefit of doubt...but with that idiotic publicity stunt...hiring people to cheer for him(yeah, he didn't know....right....that's even worse, if his mom truly does these things behind his back) and whining on court, he is starting to remind me of the obnoxious Gimelstob.

One thing is for sure....he should have taken an example of his new coach Todd Martin....who stepped willingly and graciously volunteered to step aside in Davis Cup when better players came on board or he wasn't playing well in practice. Fish didn't win a set in practice according to reports....I give you a lot more credit for asking to be put on the bench like Martin than going out there trying to get the glory and getting your butt kicked while guys who are playing better than you watch.
 
Fish is like a Gimelstob with less ego, a less pretty Jan Michael Gambill...What does that make him?
 
humble and ugly, but w. better looking stroke production? ;0 ....lol....ya man..thats who i meant! ----> jan michael gimelstob
 
Fish reminds me of a young Bill Murray with his grin, anyone else see that? Fish is Flakey and Pmac is only where he is because of his Ahole bro, if it wasn't for his name he would probably be coaching tennis at some juco!
 
I don't think Todd Martin has started working with Mardy yet. If the reports are true that Mardy never won a practice set all week, including his matches against Vince, then it was pretty weak of him not to step aside, but I'm really beginning to wonder about him anyway (okay, I've been wondering about him since I heard about the picture of his sister next to his bed on the No Strings episode...).

NoBadMojo - surely you meant 'Jan-Mardy Fishelstob'?
 
yes fee..my bad...i stand corrected.....juan miguel gimelfish. ya man mark..i always thought fish looks like a bill murray w. hair, but he doesnt quite have the caddy shack grin.....
 
so I says to him, "hey p-mac, how 'bout a little somethin', you know, for the effort?" and he looked at me and said, "gunga, gunga galoonga. and on your deathbed you will have total consciousness of how lousy you play in big matches." so I've got that goin' for me
 
P-Mac isn't that bad...

I don't think your assessment of P-Mac's captainship is fair. Don't get me wrong, I'm fed up with his smug announcer's delivery and know-it-all approach to tennis commentary, but someone did something right to get the U.S. to the DC final and P-Mac is that guy.

His mistake, as people have pointed out, was Fish. Perhaps McEnroe will better research the abilities of his clay court candidates next time around. He'll need to if the U.S. is ever to win on clay.

Yes, he was embarrassed by Connors in the come-from-behind epic so long ago, yes he carries himself like some Priince of Tennis, but he does know tennis, we have to give him that.

Cheers
 
Please... with as much talent as the rest of the American team has, even a monkey could have coached this team to a final. If the reports are true Roddick and crew don't even respect p-mac.
 
If it's true that Spadea had been spanking Fish all week in practice matches, but PMac picked Fish to play anyway, then PMac is a freaking hypocrite. He said publicly that if Spadea can prove himself during practice and beat Fish then he would play Spadea instead of Fish. He pretty much insinuated that the only way that Spadea was going to get to play was if he beat Fish during practice. Well, he did and he got shafted anyway! How can players respect a captain that won't keep his word? Can you imagine if your high school or college captain/coach did that to you? If you beat everyone on the team but he/she still wouldn't let you play a real match? I'd think you'd quit the team and transfer to another school. Maybe we'll see Spadea on the Italian Davis Cup team next year. :wink: :lol:
 
Fee said:
I don't think Todd Martin has started working with Mardy yet. If the reports are true that Mardy never won a practice set all week, including his matches against Vince, then it was pretty weak of him not to step aside, but I'm really beginning to wonder about him anyway (okay, I've been wondering about him since I heard about the picture of his sister next to his bed on the No Strings episode...).

NoBadMojo - surely you meant 'Jan-Mardy Fishelstob'?
Where are the reports that Spadea was using Fish all week and PMac said Spad would play if he beat Fish? Sources please.
 
mcenroe probably didnt want to separate andy and mardy. maybe he thought if they're both there, they would perform better since theyre really good friends and support each other.
 
I know I read one on Tennis-x. Someone else quoted a report, perhaps they had a different source?
 
The reports are widely available. It sounds like Spadea beat both Roddick and Fish in practice. Fish did not win a single set in practice. I never liked Spadea but this is a kick in the groin. First Pmac said Spadea would have to be ranked higher to be selected...so he does that....then he still doesn't select Vince..until Vince writes the letter...then he tells Vince that he is leaning towards Fish but that Vince could earn a spot....and now this....at least everyone knows it.


Spadea Offers Support, Not Spat


Photo By Susan Mullane By Andre Christopher
12/02/2004

Juan Carlos Ferrero, who has played on the Spanish Davis Cup team in 10 of it’s last 12 ties, found out he wouldn’t be playing in the Davis Cup by BNP Paribas Final against the United States the morning of the draw. American Vince Spadea found out he wouldn’t be making his second career Davis Cup appearance the night before, plenty of time to come up with all the right things to say about being in Seville merely to support the U.S. team.


Moments after the four players Captain Patrick McEnroe nominated for the U.S. team finished their Thursday afternoon press conference — Bryan twins Mike and Bob sitting just to McEnroe’s left, with Mardy Fish and Andy Roddick next to the Bryans, a point from which they could leave early for their practice session — a U.S. media contingent of about 10 reporters swarmed around Spadea like flies on bull droppings. Spadea sat toward the back of the room during the press conference. “When did you find out you wouldn’t be playing?” “Do you feel like you were given a fair chance to play your way onto the team?” “How did you do in your practice match against Roddick yesterday?” Spadea handled all the questions with aplomb, saying that McEnroe had a tough decision, that the team was ready to play and that he is happy to be in this Andalucian city in southern Spain to lend his support.

But then came the question of the moment: “If you were to play Mardy on a slow clay court, who do you think would win?”

The “team player” in Spadea clearly did not want to answer. He did not bristle or let go a heavy sigh, but his hesitation in saying anything was answer enough. Finally, Spadea relented. “Why are we discussing something that everyone already feels and knows?” he asked, his dark sunglasses shielding his eyes from reporters, with sun unable to penetrate the bowels of the Estadio Olimpico de Sevilla, where the press conference was held.

Empassioned lobbying had earned Spadea a spot on the U.S. squad, but at the end of almost a week’s practice, his arguments for why he should be chosen ahead of Fish (chiefly a better ranking, No. 19 versus No. 37) — even with solid practice sessions — could not sway McEnroe from his original thinking.

“(Vince) has been great this week,” McEnroe said. “He has played great. He has really pushed our guys in practice. But at the end of the day, I still felt that Mardy gave us the best chance to win this match, to win a match here with his game and his style of play and the way he potentially can match up with the Spanish players.”

Spadea, by the way, has never lost to Fish in their three career encounters, one at tour-level and two in challengers, all of them on hard courts.

Said Spadea, “No. 2 (on the U.S. team) was a toss-up. Patrick went with his gut feeling. We’ll see how the chips fall.”

That should not be taken as Spadea looking for the opportunity in a couple of days to say, “I told you so. Later, away from the U.S. media horde he would say, “I was out of tennis three years ago (with a ranking down to No. 212). I have a lot of positives to take out of this. It’s a great tribute to what I have accomplished that I am here. It was a tough decision for Patrick.”

Even in the one area that Spadea has a distinct advantage — knowledge of a Davis Cup crowd in Spain — he was not exploitive. His only time playing Davis Cup was in the 2000 semifinal tie against Spain in Santander. That was a much smaller crowd than the United States will face in Seville. A sold-out arena of 27,200 will give this tie the largest crowd ever to see a Davis Cup match, eclipsing the 25,758 who saw the United States defeat Australia in White City, Sydney 50 years ago. But, said Spadea, “These guys have a lot of Davis Cup experience. These guys can handle that.”

So Spadea will be among the roughly 300-strong U.S. contingent, telling his squadmates that they don’t have to go for big shots quite so often. (“Sometimes less is more on clay,” he says.) At least he will have his own seat. When the draw ceremony began on Thursday, Spadea had to share a seat with Andy Roddick until organizers brought out a chair for the Top 20 cheerleader.

“I’m not the reason we’re in the Davis Cup Final,” Spadea said, “and everybody knows that.”
 
Good article. It shows that Spadea has a lot more class than people on this board give him credit for. He could have whinned to high heaven about not being picked, but what would that accomplish-the US lost the tie and history is history here. That said, he should have been chosen over Fish.
 
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