Meatless diet is starting to catch up on Djokovic.

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macattack said:
I understand that. jga111 said Nole's nutritionist was wrong. I said I trust the nutritionist of one of the best tennis players of all time over someone writing on a message board.

Also, do you have a link to Djoko's nutritionist saying "meat is poison?" It's not that I don't believe you, but it's nice to see what was actually said.
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So i translated few pages from serbian sites, translation is pretty good i must say.
Its very weird i must say.I will sum it up.
So Novaks wife met this woman Maja Volk in some childrens camp in mountains were she held
school of healthy eating.
And Novaks wife recommended this woman to Novak and then she started preparing food for them.
She is a
professor of dramaturgy, writer, screenwriter, musician and sculptor and she is a vegan.
She has nothing to do with a sport or sport nutrition.



-Translate this pages .
http://www.vesti-online.com/Sport/Tenis/606685/DJokovic-ne-treba-da-jede-meso-to-je-otrov
http://www.kurir.rs/zabava/zena/tes...u-dokovicu-a-sve-za-500-dinara-clanak-2141931
 
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maxxy777 said:
So i translated few pages from serbian sites, translation is pretty good i must say.
Its very weird i must say.I will sum it up.
So Novaks wife met this woman Maja Volk in some childrens camp in mountains were she held
school of healthy eating.
And Novaks wife recommended this woman to Novak and then she started preparing food for them.
She is a
professor of dramaturgy, writer, screenwriter, musician and sculptor and she is a vegan.
She has nothing to do with a sport or sport nutrition.
-Translate this pages .
http://www.vesti-online.com/Sport/Tenis/606685/DJokovic-ne-treba-da-jede-meso-to-je-otrov
http://www.kurir.rs/zabava/zena/tes...u-dokovicu-a-sve-za-500-dinara-clanak-2141931
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Well I'll be damned. That's bizarre. I'll take your word on the translation since I only speak one work of Serbian.
 
nadalfan2013 said:
Just because humans have been doing something for a long time doesn't mean that we should or that it is healthy. Name me one animal who drinks milk as an adult and on top of that that milk is from another animal. It's just $$$$$$$. It's a mess. And believe me, it's not good for health, it's been proven. But the governments will continue. And I am not even talking about the horrible conditions that the cows are in, it's basically hell on earth. They keep them pregnant over and over, and they are so tired they collapse. I switched to Almond milk and it's not only healthier but it tastes perfect.
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Felis catus.

For the record - I usually drink almond milk.
 
Few words from Djokovic nutricionist.


If Novak wants to be still at the top, he should not eat meat because the meat is poison. Raw food gives him strength, and it does not take away. Meat is the cause that every third man is ill with cancer. Raw food heals people. We are designed to eat plants, not meat. After all, herbivores are much stronger than carnivores. Just give Novak little rest and will win again . Although not the final and semi-final coming up which are not failures - said Maja Volk for "Blic".


Food is just fuel for the cells. In order to achieve lasting health, requires two things - work on feelings and physical exercise. When we are not stagnant water, then we live. By changing the whole system of thought, behavior, relationships and nutrition I came to permanent health - explains Dr Kurir Maja Volk, professor of dramaturgy, writer, screenwriter, musician and sculptor who struggled for years with a serious illness - cancer. It is already seven years living on raw food, but as he says, the key moment in which she decided to move to such a diet was hanging out with the teacher of life, a psychotherapist Gruja.

As he points out, she was hard to get used to a new body diet.
- I've always loved fruit and salads and I hated to cook, it is a living food diet was salvation - she says and adds that already for five days with this kind of diet they see changes in the skin - gets shine, no pimples, after seven days on hair - revives, becomes great, no dandruff and grease, after three weeks of blood picture perfect, and after seven years of changing eye color.

Today I have scars from surgery aged 40 years and over, I have no moles, returned my curls, each body was recovered, I do not have scars on my heart that I had years of coxsackie virus myocardial 1999. My authorities now have a biological age of 35 years - joyful witness pedesetdevetogodišnjakinja.

As advice for people who face a diagnosis of cancer she points out:
Remember, there are no incurable diseases, only incurable patients. It all depends on you, in you the power, only a matter of deciding whether you want to live crazy like, or want to develop and move on. Taking responsibility for the disease is essential. Knowing that she was the result of bad habits, bad thoughts, swallowing and suppressing and crushing feeling in itself. When life loses meaning, goes the disease. The design life is what you need to embrace with passion and will. Without it there is no creativity, no life


So this person prepares Novaks food, things are getting more clear now.
 
maxxy777 said:
If Novak wants to be still at the top, he should not eat meat because the meat is poison. Raw food gives him strength, and it does not take away. Meat is the cause that every third man is ill with cancer. Raw food heals people. We are designed to eat plants, not meat. After all, herbivores are much stronger than carnivores. Just give Novak little rest and will win again . Although not the final and semi-final coming up which are not failures - said Maja Volk for "Blic".
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So this is pretty much the same line of thinking some people use here.
Its like forum is coaching Novak lol.
 
Thats why Novak needs a new guru, to solve the problems first vegan guru made .
 
maxxy777 said:
Maja Volk, professor of dramaturgy, writer, screenwriter, musician and sculptor who struggled for years with a serious illness - cancer. It is already seven years living on raw food,
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This woman survived a cancer with vegan diet, which is ok since less you eat while having cancer the better, i know a woman that stopped eating and got cured of cancer.

But is this the right way for Novak, i dont think so, curing cancer and playing tennis is not the same thing.
 
maxxy777 said:
This woman survived a cancer with vegan diet, which is ok since less you eat while having cancer the better, i know a woman that stopped eating and got cured of cancer.

But is this the right way for Novak, i dont think so, curing cancer and playing tennis is not the same thing.
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No one survives cancer. Sorry to tell you that mate.
 
nadalfan2013 said:
Just because humans have been doing something for a long time doesn't mean that we should or that it is healthy. Name me one animal who drinks milk as an adult and on top of that that milk is from another animal. It's just $$$$$$$. It's a mess. And believe me, it's not good for health, it's been proven. But the governments will continue. And I am not even talking about the horrible conditions that the cows are in, it's basically hell on earth. They keep them pregnant over and over, and they are so tired they collapse. I switched to Almond milk and it's not only healthier but it tastes perfect.

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Yep,there's nothing remotely natural about drinking non-maternal milk. There are animals who are meant to eat mean, and it's debatable whether that's the case of humans, but no animals are meant to drink milk a grown ups.
 
Crisstti said:
Yep,there's nothing remotely natural about drinking non-maternal milk. There are animals who are meant to eat mean, and it's debatable whether that's the case of humans, but no animals are meant to drink milk a grown ups.
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You know what animals are also not meant to do , fly a plane, drive a car, play tennis and one or 2 more examples which i cant remember now.
Animals dont drink milk, because they have some higher moral but simply because they cant.
Lion can get to cow and ask for some milk can he.
If i give any animal milk they will drink it , they dont care.
 
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Many vegan or vegetarian feel better once they start the diet because of more nutrients that you dont get from meat.
but after few years they start to feel the consequences for exact same reason.Lack of another vital nutrients like
saturated fat and cholesterol which can lead to hormonal imbalance.
Now they dont think that food is the problem since they started to feel better once they went vegan.

Vegan diet is very difficult to pull of and it does need extra supplementation and even then you need genetics that will allow you to do that.
Djokovic didnt take professional sport nutritionist as he should but some vegan women his wife met and recommended and that women knows nothing about the sport or nutrition.
This was a big mistake on its own.
Djokovic needs to do full blood tests , health tests , hormonal test to see whats up.
 
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To get the full benefit of a vegan diet, vegans should do one of the following:

  1. Eat fortified foods two or three times a day to get at least three micrograms (mcg or µg) of B12 a day
  2. OR Take one B12 supplement daily providing at least 10 micrograms
  3. OR Take a weekly B12 supplement providing at least 2000 micrograms.
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In over 60 years of vegan experimentation only B12 fortified foods and B12 supplements have proven themselves as reliable sources of B12, capable of supporting optimal health.




As you see you cant take enough of vitamin b12 in a natural way as a vegan.
So being vegan is not even possible without supplementation.
You can either eat crap non organic fortified food 2,3 times a day or take many pills.
This is not organic food.
 
maxxy777 said:
Many vegan or vegetarian feel better once they start the diet because of more nutrients that you dont get from meat.
but after few years they start to feel the consequences for exact same reason.Lack of another vital nutrients like
saturated fat and cholesterol which can lead to hormonal imbalance.
Now they dont think that food is the problem since they started to feel better once they went vegan.

Vegan diet is very difficult to pull of and it does need extra supplementation and even then you need genetics that will allow you to do that.
Djokovic didnt take professional sport nutritionist as he should but some vegan women his wife met and recommended and that women knows nothing about the sport or nutrition.
This was a big mistake on its own.
Djokovic needs to do full blood tests , health tests , hormonal test to see whats up.
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LOL. This guy has the best specialists in the world working for him. He knows precisely how every meal he eats, and every minute he spends in the egg affects all of his blood metrics, hormones, recovery etc. His decisions would all be based on not just feeling better, but on all this hard data from blood tests etc that would show him that his body functions better with fueling himself a certain way. He is meticulously gauging the effects of everything he does, it is not just vague guess work. When we read the snippets of info in some article or interview, we just get the basic version of what he is doing.
 
TheNatural said:
LOL. This guy has the best specialists in the world working for him. He knows precisely how every meal he eats, and every minute he spends in the egg affects all of his blood metrics, hormones, recovery etc. His decisions would all be based on not just feeling better, but on all this hard data from blood tests etc that would show him that his body functions better with fueling himself a certain way. He is meticulously gauging the effects of everything he does, it is not just vague guess work. When we read the snippets of info in some article or interview, we just get the basic version of what he is doing.
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No mate this woman is doing his nutrition, not a specialist.
If he had the best specialists in the world working for him why would he hire this lady.
Instead Djokovic hired some old lady artist guru that survived cancer and preaches same diet to top athlete.



from the interview;
"Oko sedam časova ujutru dođem u radnju i spremim sve što treba da im odnesem. Jako su fini i meni mnogo znači što su baš mene odabrali. To je velika stvar, zar su se Đokovići, koji mogu da unajme bilo kog kuvara na svetu da im kuva, odlučili za mene! Mojoj sreći nema kraja", zaključuje Volkova.

translation google:
"About seven o'clock in the morning I come to shop and prepare everything you need to bring them. They are very nice to me means a lot as just chose me. It's a big thing, is the Djokovic family, who can hire any chef in the world to they cook, they decided for me! my happiness has no end, "says Volkov.


So she said it herself that she is very happy that they chose her coz they could hire any other chef in the world.
Djokovic wife found this lady in the first place and her and this lady prepare Novaks food.
 
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maxxy777 said:
No mate this woman is doing his nutrition, not a specialist.
If he had the best specialists in the world working for him why would he hire this lady.
Instead Djokovic hired some old lady artist guru that survived cancer and preaches same diet to top athlete.



from the interview;
"Oko sedam časova ujutru dođem u radnju i spremim sve što treba da im odnesem. Jako su fini i meni mnogo znači što su baš mene odabrali. To je velika stvar, zar su se Đokovići, koji mogu da unajme bilo kog kuvara na svetu da im kuva, odlučili za mene! Mojoj sreći nema kraja", zaključuje Volkova.

translation google:
"About seven o'clock in the morning I come to shop and prepare everything you need to bring them. They are very nice to me means a lot as just chose me. It's a big thing, is the Djokovic family, who can hire any chef in the world to they cook, they decided for me! my happiness has no end, "says Volkov.


So she said it herself that she is very happy that they chose her coz they could hire any other chef in the world.
Djokovic wife found this lady in the first place and her and this lady prepare Novaks food.
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His nutritionists, doctors,specialists, would monitor everything and help set the general plan and guidelines. The cook just cooks the food within the general guidelines.
 
TheNatural said:
His nutritionists, doctors,specialists, would monitor everything and help set the general plan and guidelines. The cook just cooks the food within the general guidelines.
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You are just making stuff up as you see fit.
His nutritional team is one vegan artist and his wife as i posted the proof above .
And the person that said meat is poison cooks within the general guidelines.
Yeah right,
 
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macattack said:
Well I'll be damned. That's bizarre. I'll take your word on the translation since I only speak one work of Serbian.
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Yup.

maxxy777 said:
from the interview;
"Oko sedam časova ujutru dođem u radnju i spremim sve što treba da im odnesem. Jako su fini i meni mnogo znači što su baš mene odabrali. To je velika stvar, zar su se Đokovići, koji mogu da unajme bilo kog kuvara na svetu da im kuva, odlučili za mene! Mojoj sreći nema kraja", zaključuje Volkova.

translation google:
"About seven o'clock in the morning I come to shop and prepare everything you need to bring them. They are very nice to me means a lot as just chose me. It's a big thing, is the Djokovic family, who can hire any chef in the world to they cook, they decided for me! my happiness has no end, "says Volkov.
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TheNatural said:
His nutritionists, doctors,specialists, would monitor everything and help set the general plan and guidelines. The cook just cooks the food within the general guidelines.
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maxxy777 said:
You are just making stuff up as you see fit.
His nutritional team is one vegan artist and his wife as i posted the proof above .
And the person that said meat is poison cooks within the general guidelines.
Yeah right,
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You seemed to misinterpret what I typed, so I'll clarify for you. His nutritionists, doctors,specialists, would monitor everything and help set the general plan and guidelines(Obviously vegan nutrition plan/guidelines). It doesn't really matter who does the cooking, they just cook within those guidelines.
 
TheNatural said:
You seemed to misinterpret what I typed, so I'll clarify for you. His nutritionists, doctors,specialists, would monitor everything and help set the general plan and guidelines(Obviously vegan nutrition plan/guidelines). It doesn't really matter who does the cooking, they just cook within those guidelines.
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Why would this woman be relevant at all if she was just the cook
whos been told what to cook.


In fact she stated in all serbian media that she is the one doing Djokovics food on her own recipes and ideas.
 
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maxxy777 said:
Why would this woman be relevant at all if she was just the cook
whos been told what to cook.


In fact she stated in all serbian media that she is the one doing Djokovics food on her own recipes and ideas.
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Maybe she makes some tasty recipes. Maybe she is the Jamie Oliver of vegan cooking. ;)

It would be naive to think that Shokavish isn't closely monitoring the effects of his nutrition on his body with regular blood tests etc, to make sure that the change is having a positive effect.
 
TheNatural said:
Maybe she makes some tasty recipes. Maybe she is the Jamie Oliver of vegan cooking. ;)

It would be naive to think that Shokavish isn't closely monitoring the effects of his nutrition on his body with regular blood tests etc, to make sure that the change is having a positive effect.
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Nah , no one knew this person until Novak hired her.
You know even the best and smartest people slip up in small stupid things.
It is very simple, he tried going vegan and it worked, then he started promoting it as his lifestyle as he was sure that was the way to go.
But he didnt think long term effects.
I really hope he does blood tests but even then how he wants to understands them is the question.
He said that his diet is more important then his carrier.
 
maxxy777 said:
Nah , no one knew this person until Novak hired her.
You know even the best and smartest people slip up in small stupid things.
It is very simple, he tried going vegan and it worked, then he started promoting it as his lifestyle as he was sure that was the way to go.
But he didnt think long term effects.
I really hope he does blood tests but even then how he wants to understands them is the question.
He said that his diet is more important then his carrier.
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Exactly, there are short term affects to not eating meat. Weight loss, feeling "lighter on your feet" etc. But in the end, we have evolved to NEED meat in out diet. I am not saying that we should eat meat everyday (although pro athletes probably should), but we do need it to remain healthy. 60 grams of protein a day. Or every other day for that matter.

There is no doubt we should reduce our meat intake, but not get rid of it overall. The iron/protein are NEEDED in our bodies.

Djokovic's loss of muscle mass is evident that he is not getting enough protein in his diet. And there is NO other effective source of protein and iron than meat (unless you want to me eating a bucket load of spinach everyday).
 
joekapa said:
Exactly, there are short term affects to not eating meat. Weight loss, feeling "lighter on your feet" etc. But in the end, we have evolved to NEED meat in out diet. I am not saying that we should eat meat everyday (although pro athletes probably should), but we do need it to remain healthy. 60 grams of protein a day. Or every other day for that matter.

There is no doubt we should reduce our meat intake, but not get rid of it overall. The iron/protein are NEEDED in our bodies.
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There is no science behind those claims.

:cool:
 
joekapa said:
Exactly, there are short term affects to not eating meat. Weight loss, feeling "lighter on your feet" etc. But in the end, we have evolved to NEED meat in out diet. I am not saying that we should eat meat everyday (although pro athletes probably should), but we do need it to remain healthy. 60 grams of protein a day. Or every other day for that matter.

There is no doubt we should reduce our meat intake, but not get rid of it overall. The iron/protein are NEEDED in our bodies.

Djokovic's loss of muscle mass is evident that he is not getting enough protein in his diet. And there is NO other effective source of protein and iron than meat (unless you want to me eating a bucket load of spinach everyday).
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Exactly,
herbivores eat almost 90% of their time because their food has little nutrition.
 
maxxy777 said:
Few words from Djokovic nutricionist.


If Novak wants to be still at the top, he should not eat meat because the meat is poison. Raw food gives him strength, and it does not take away. Meat is the cause that every third man is ill with cancer. Raw food heals people. We are designed to eat plants, not meat. After all, herbivores are much stronger than carnivores. Just give Novak little rest and will win again . Although not the final and semi-final coming up which are not failures - said Maja Volk for "Blic".


Food is just fuel for the cells. In order to achieve lasting health, requires two things - work on feelings and physical exercise. When we are not stagnant water, then we live. By changing the whole system of thought, behavior, relationships and nutrition I came to permanent health - explains Dr Kurir Maja Volk, professor of dramaturgy, writer, screenwriter, musician and sculptor who struggled for years with a serious illness - cancer. It is already seven years living on raw food, but as he says, the key moment in which she decided to move to such a diet was hanging out with the teacher of life, a psychotherapist Gruja.

As he points out, she was hard to get used to a new body diet.
- I've always loved fruit and salads and I hated to cook, it is a living food diet was salvation - she says and adds that already for five days with this kind of diet they see changes in the skin - gets shine, no pimples, after seven days on hair - revives, becomes great, no dandruff and grease, after three weeks of blood picture perfect, and after seven years of changing eye color.

Today I have scars from surgery aged 40 years and over, I have no moles, returned my curls, each body was recovered, I do not have scars on my heart that I had years of coxsackie virus myocardial 1999. My authorities now have a biological age of 35 years - joyful witness pedesetdevetogodišnjakinja.

As advice for people who face a diagnosis of cancer she points out:
Remember, there are no incurable diseases, only incurable patients. It all depends on you, in you the power, only a matter of deciding whether you want to live crazy like, or want to develop and move on. Taking responsibility for the disease is essential. Knowing that she was the result of bad habits, bad thoughts, swallowing and suppressing and crushing feeling in itself. When life loses meaning, goes the disease. The design life is what you need to embrace with passion and will. Without it there is no creativity, no life


So this person prepares Novaks food, things are getting more clear now.
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what???

this is serious???

I know vegan people who have cancer!!!

cancer happens because is the destiny.......

the man is not hervibore.....is onmivore, eats meat and vegetales.
 
Tennis_Hands said:
There is no science behind those claims.

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We can all argue about science all day long but what about the facts.
Is Djokovic nutritionist using science.
Like meat is poison and there is no incurable diseases only incurable people.
Does this sound normal to you.
 
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rodrigo_palacio88 said:
what???

this is serious???

I know vegan people who have cancer!!!

cancer happens because is the destiny.......

the man is not hervibore.....is onmivore, eats meat and vegetales.
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Destiny ,pollution and such....
This is quoted from Djokovics nutritionist, its very serious.
Not that is true in any way.
 
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maxxy777 said:
We can all argue about science all day long but what about the facts.
Is Djokovic nutritionist using science.
Like meat is poison and there is no incurable diseases only incurable people.
Does this sound normal to you.
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Noone here knows exactly what Djokovic eats or doesn't eat.

The pictures posted to "prove" one way or the other are a joke.

:cool:
 
Tennis_Hands said:
Noone here knows exactly what Djokovic eats or doesn't eat.

The pictures posted to "prove" one way or the other are a joke.

:cool:
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Djokovic stated plenty of times what he doest eat, we do know that.
Meat and gluten.
And we do know who is his nutritionist , her credentials and ideas.
Which are pretty scary btw.
 
maxxy777 said:
Djokovic stated plenty of times what he doest eat, we do know that.
Meat and gluten.
And we do know who is his nutritionist , her credentials and ideas.
Which are pretty scary btw.
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What he states obviously could be different from what he does and I said that nobody here knows what he eats.

As for the rest: he spends hundreds of thousands to insure that he has every bit of advantage that he can have, but he is not stupid.

:cool:
 
maxxy777 said:
Few words from Djokovic nutricionist.


If Novak wants to be still at the top, he should not eat meat because the meat is poison. Raw food gives him strength, and it does not take away. Meat is the cause that every third man is ill with cancer. Raw food heals people. We are designed to eat plants, not meat. After all, herbivores are much stronger than carnivores. Just give Novak little rest and will win again . Although not the final and semi-final coming up which are not failures - said Maja Volk for "Blic".


Food is just fuel for the cells. In order to achieve lasting health, requires two things - work on feelings and physical exercise. When we are not stagnant water, then we live. By changing the whole system of thought, behavior, relationships and nutrition I came to permanent health - explains Dr Kurir Maja Volk, professor of dramaturgy, writer, screenwriter, musician and sculptor who struggled for years with a serious illness - cancer. It is already seven years living on raw food, but as he says, the key moment in which she decided to move to such a diet was hanging out with the teacher of life, a psychotherapist Gruja.

As he points out, she was hard to get used to a new body diet.
- I've always loved fruit and salads and I hated to cook, it is a living food diet was salvation - she says and adds that already for five days with this kind of diet they see changes in the skin - gets shine, no pimples, after seven days on hair - revives, becomes great, no dandruff and grease, after three weeks of blood picture perfect, and after seven years of changing eye color.

Today I have scars from surgery aged 40 years and over, I have no moles, returned my curls, each body was recovered, I do not have scars on my heart that I had years of coxsackie virus myocardial 1999. My authorities now have a biological age of 35 years - joyful witness pedesetdevetogodišnjakinja.

As advice for people who face a diagnosis of cancer she points out:
Remember, there are no incurable diseases, only incurable patients. It all depends on you, in you the power, only a matter of deciding whether you want to live crazy like, or want to develop and move on. Taking responsibility for the disease is essential. Knowing that she was the result of bad habits, bad thoughts, swallowing and suppressing and crushing feeling in itself. When life loses meaning, goes the disease. The design life is what you need to embrace with passion and will. Without it there is no creativity, no life


So this person prepares Novaks food, things are getting more clear now.
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Typical crank food faddery!:rolleyes:

Nobody has to cut out anything (unless they have a genuine allergy to it). The essence of a good diet is balance. If you enjoy eating meat then go on eating it, just balance it out with a healthy admixture of fruit and vegetables. There is no one food item that is bad so long as it is not eaten to excess. That's all. :cool:

Anything else is pure hogwash! o_O
 
Attila_the_gorilla said:
It's hilarious. Saying **** like meat is needed for protein.
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Not so hilarious .
When you take out meat ,milk, all living organisms like fish, sea food, eggs, cheese,stuff that has gluten you are not left with much.
Then most soy 90% of it is gmo, and even the ones that claim to be organic are probably not.
Beans and broccoli are really heavy to digest and make gas.You cant eat that while playing tennis.
Then cut out chemicals like powder protein.
So you are not left with much are you.

No wonder Djokovic is only guy in atp to even attempt to go vegan, not that he fully is one.
 
Tennis_Hands said:
What he states obviously could be different from what he does and I said that nobody here knows what he eats.

As for the rest: he spends hundreds of thousands to insure that he has every bit of advantage that he can have, but he is not stupid.

:cool:
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Nah mate,its very simple.
What if he went vegan and it turned out it was not so good for him, that this diet is not good for him in the long run.He wouldnt be the first one right.Its normal. many people tried it and didnt like it.But not respected guys like Novak.
He cant change that now can he.People will hold him on his own words.
He went the vegan road and there is no way back from it.
Can we at least agree on this ,
that he cant start eating meat again even if he wanted to, or even if his doctor ordered him to do so.
All his money is for nothing if he cant hold his own word.
He knows that.
 
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maxxy777 said:
Can we at least agree on this ,
that he cant start eating meat again even if he wanted to, or even if his doctor ordered him to do so.
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No. He's a human being born with free will and he can do whatever he wants. I mean, he'd have to walk back a lot of what he's promoted, but that's life. Sometimes you have to eat **** and grin about it.
 
maxxy777 said:
Not so hilarious .
When you take out meat ,milk, all living organisms like fish, sea food, eggs, cheese,stuff that has gluten you are not left with much.
Then most soy 90% of it is gmo, and even the ones that claim to be organic are probably not.
Beans and broccoli are really heavy to digest and make gas.You cant eat that while playing tennis.
Then cut out chemicals like powder protein.
So you are not left with much are you.

No wonder Djokovic is only guy in atp to even attempt to go vegan, not that he fully is one.
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You are a nutcase. What about lentils, rice, potatoes, brussles sprouts, all kinds of nuts and seeds from peanuts, cashews, almonds. Broccoli has never made me fart. But I couldn't eat a lean piece of steak if I was forced to. When I do eat animal profucts, it's never for the protein. Much rather for the fat and maybe some minerals. Protein deficiency should not be a concern at all for vegans.
 
Attila_the_gorilla said:
You are a nutcase. What about lentils, rice, potatoes, brussles sprouts, all kinds of nuts and seeds from peanuts, cashews, almonds. Broccoli has never made me fart. But I couldn't eat a lean piece of steak if I was forced to. When I do eat animal profucts, it's never for the protein. Much rather for the fat and maybe some minerals. Protein deficiency should not be a concern at all for vegans.
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Lentils are also hard on your stomack, and cant be eaten when training.
Rice 100g - 2,7g protein 100g tuna -29 g protein
potato -100g- 2g protein 100g steak -25g protein
brussel sprouts 100g-3,4 100g cottage cheese 11g protein

This things dont pack much protein.
Human body needs 56 grams of protein daily.
For Djokovic that is 100 to 150g easy,



So you are left with seeds and nuts like a bird, but
Nuts are high in fat and are good only in moderation.
 
What about the rest lets say top 199 atp players and not a single vegan or vegetarian.
 
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