Medvedev Enters His 10th Week at #1

Medvedev is a great hard courter. Problem is he is useless elsewhere which makes his placing in the top 10 disappointing. He really cannot play on clay and grass. Terrible.
 
Jokervich said:
Well yeah technically he won it, but we all know what the outcome would have been if Djokovic went into that match fresh and not hindered by the pressure of the CYGS.
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It wasnt pressure. Novak had a thigh issue im sure of it. he was serve volleying almost every point innhis 2nd or 3rd service points. He wanted to keep rallies short.
Nadal Federer Djokovic dont feel pressure. They thrive on it.
 
Jokervich said:
Well yeah technically he won it, but we all know what the outcome would have been if Djokovic went into that match fresh and not hindered by the pressure of the CYGS.
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That sounds like a very unconvincing fan excuse, not an objective description of a match.

Anyway, Medvedev had the pressure of not wanting to go 0-3 in finals.

Who would you rather be, a guy trying to win his millionth slam or a guy trying not to become a NextGen loser meme?

The answer is obvious.

Everybody has pressure. The fact that Novak couldn't handle it is why he lost, plus Medvedev playing very good. Winning slams is all about clutchness, not who hits the better shots or who has more skill. That is nonsense. That's only a factor when an ATG gets a lucky outsider in a final.
 
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mike danny said:
Why else would you mention Roddick? Let's not act foolish now.
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Because I think Roddick is a dick (knowing people who have met him) and it would be hilarious if a “less superior” player passed up his legacy.

Nobody mentioned Federer. Kindly go away and think about your life choices.
 
I'm definitely not a Medvedev fan, but saying he is an undeserved #1 is dumb. He has already won a slam and made 3 other finals, won the WTF and many Masters. Only for his performance in the USO final, he deserves that ranking. He proved that day that he could beat top players in big matches. It's just too bad he couldn't come anywhear near this level in Australia this year.

He hasn't looked good lately and is definitely not #1 in 2022, but as we know the ranking extends over 52 weeks. Last year he won Toronto, USO and made the finals in Paris and Turin and Semi in Cincinatti, that's 5000 points and that's why he is still #1 today.

Note that if the Olympic Games awarded 750 points (like it did until 2016), Zverev would have been #1 for a short while too.

Don't worry though, his reign will be over soon, unless he can defend his 3600 points in US. Nadal will surpass him in the short run. And in the long run the battle will be between Alcaraz and Zverev ( and Djokovic if he can play everything again). Medvedev is too weak on clay and grass, unlike Alcaraz and Zverev. He will lose his #1 after USO and I doubt he's ever getting it back. It still doesn't mean he didn't deserve it.
 
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Nadal will probably be ranked #1 for the next 3 years starting in September :happydevil:
 
crimson87 said:
Making Connors proud with that weeks at number 1 vulturing
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Djokovic and Nadal are allowed to vulture and plunder a weak era with winning almost worthless sub-par Mickey Mouse slams, yet Medvedev can't vulture a few weeks at no 1?

Big 3 fans complain about NextGen not stepping up, but as soon as one achieves something (a slam and no 1) they want to shoot him down because "he gets in the way of" Big 3 records...
 
Jokervich said:
Well no one would handle the pressure at that moment. It's not been done for like 50 years. And it was physical exhaustion too.
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I think a ton of players beat Medvedev in that match lol. We only got to see Djokovic fail and lose :giggle: (y)


Glad to know the fittest and mentally strongest on tour lost to fatigue and pressure XD
 
UnderratedSlam said:
Well...

AO 22.

Same opponent, same surface, a record at stake, and physical exhaustion.

It worked.

Instead of crying like an infant in the 3rd set, Nadal sucked it up and won.

Big difference.
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Right, as if Djokovic has never come back from an 0-2 hole to win a Slam before

The crucial difference was, Nadal and Medvedev had been on court for roughly the same amount of time before their final at the AO. Novak on the other hand had been on court 5 hours more than Medvedev at the USO. He knew that he was in a hole that would be nearly impossible to climb out of because his opponent was much fresher. Nadal knew that while he was tired, so was Medvedev
 
Fabresque said:
Because I think Roddick is a dick (knowing people who have met him) and it would be hilarious if a “less superior” player passed up his legacy.

Nobody mentioned Federer. Kindly go away and think about your life choices.
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It wouldn't be hilarious because we all know why Med will pass his legacy and it's not because he's better.
 
Fabresque said:
Medvedev beats Roddick everywhere except grass lol.
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Roddick's better on slow HC, grass, fast HC.
the only place med is arguably better is indoors. (where it matters since both suck on clay)
Med can't even make a final on slow HC (IW, Miami, Acapulco)
faster AO in 21/22 helped him and yet crumbled in finals.
peak roddick of course clearly better on medium-fast to fast HC outdoors.
 
jm1980 said:
Right, as if Djokovic has never come back from an 0-2 hole to win a Slam before

The crucial difference was, Nadal and Medvedev had been on court for roughly the same amount of time before their final at the AO. Novak on the other hand had been on court 5 hours more than Medvedev at the USO. He knew that he was in a hole that would be nearly impossible to climb out of because his opponent was much fresher. Nadal knew that while he was tired, so was Medvedev
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The crucial different is Medvedev's level throughout the whole tournament.

In USO he obliterated everyone, including Auger-Aliassime in the semifinal. He only dropped one set and was plaing the best tennis of his life.

Medvedev in AO 2022 doesn't come close. At all. He struggled from the 1st round agaist Laaksonen, then dropped sets to Tsitsipas, Kyrgios and Cressy. He had to save 2 match points against Auger-Aliassime, the same guy he straight-setted in New York last year. It's a miracle he even reached the final with that level. In USO no one could beat him.
 
Tenacity said:
Yeah, that's same, surely. 21st slam>CYGS on the line
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You're nit-picking.

Or do you actually believe Nadal would have folded, cried like a baby and then lost in 3?

Of course not.

Bosnian Pyramids, they carry a curse with them. ain't easy being a temple worshiper...
 
jm1980 said:
Right, as if Djokovic has never come back from an 0-2 hole to win a Slam before

The crucial difference was, Nadal and Medvedev had been on court for roughly the same amount of time before their final at the AO. Novak on the other hand had been on court 5 hours more than Medvedev at the USO. He knew that he was in a hole that would be nearly impossible to climb out of because his opponent was much fresher. Nadal knew that while he was tired, so was Medvedev
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Even at this year's Wimbledon, with so many Mickey Mouse opponents, he managed to lose a bunch of sets.

Whose fault is that?

Djokovic was crushed by the pressure. It's that Bosnian Pyramids curse, you dabble in voodoo you get screwed.
 
UnderratedSlam said:
You're nit-picking.

Or do you actually believe Nadal would have folded, cried like a baby and then lost in 3?

Of course not.

Bosnian Pyramids, they carry a curse with them. ain't easy being a temple worshiper...
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You can't know that and there is a reason it hasn't been done in half a century or even came close to it.

Maybe he would maybe he wouldn't, we'll never know, will we?
 
UnderratedSlam said:
Even at this year's Wimbledon, with so many Mickey Mouse opponents, he managed to lose a bunch of sets.

Whose fault is that?

Djokovic was crushed by the pressure. It's that Bosnian Pyramids curse, you dabble in voodoo you get screwed.
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Oh, there's no question that it's Djokovic's fault that he lost so many sets leading up to that final

I'm just saying that some panic set in once he realized he was in a hole and didn't have the legs to fight his way back
 
UnderratedSlam said:
You're nit-picking.

Or do you actually believe Nadal would have folded, cried like a baby and then lost in 3?

Of course not.

Bosnian Pyramids, they carry a curse with them. ain't easy being a temple worshiper...
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Nadal would have had to get in that position to begin with and he has never been particularly close
 
BGod said:
And he's pretty well worse than all of those players save for Rios, arguably Ferrero, Moya and Muster could be behind but not much. He's got a long way to go.
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So Ferrero can beat Djokovic in straight sets at USO and end his run for CYGS?
 
Feels about right. He's earned his weeks.

Number one has nothing to with being the best player. Just the most consistently good, healthy, and active compared to one's peers over the past year. (Reason number 1,909 why it should never be used as a metric for greatness.) As of now, Med has been the most consistently good, active and healthy compared to the field. Thus, he deserves his ranking and his weeks at one.
 
He will be world #1 until US Open

After that Nadal rules the #1 spot rather easily until clay season 2023.

No one can amass the points to challenge him. Zverev could’ve but is injured, Alcaraz also could but would need a Slam win and a crazy indoor run.
 
Roflmao at some posters ignoring Medvedev won USO dropping only one set. That is off the charts stuff.
 
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