Medvedev got lucky with a cakewalk draw.

ron schaap

Hall of Fame
Let's see how he deep he can go with a draw full of big names.
so you would have won the uso too. lol. ********
daniil is the hardcourt king for the last years because of his hard low precise shots. But now he proved he had the experience and service under pressure too.
so he could be dangerous in Australia too but not on the other slams.
 

topher

Hall of Fame
Sometimes that happens, but players earn those chances by getting high rankings and playing consistently at a high level.

All of the Big 3 won their first slam playing a first-time (and never to repeat) slam finalist. That's arguably even luckier than having to beat a GOAT candidate in the final like Med did.
 

pj80

Hall of Fame
Sometimes that happens, but players earn those chances by getting high rankings and playing consistently at a high level.

All of the Big 3 won their first slam playing a first-time (and never to repeat) slam finalist. That's arguably even luckier than having to beat a GOAT candidate in the final like Med did.
rafa and nole had to beat fed in sf...
 
This gives credence to the theory that Fed sticking around was a net-negative to him. In year's past he was good enough to beat the young guys, which hurt their confidence in the process, but not Joker.

Some Art of War stuff.
 

Gazelle

G.O.A.T.
Sometimes that happens, but players earn those chances by getting high rankings and playing consistently at a high level.

All of the Big 3 won their first slam playing a first-time (and never to repeat) slam finalist. That's arguably even luckier than having to beat a GOAT candidate in the final like Med did.
Philipoussis is always criminally underrated. Had a descent career, wasn't just one flash in a pan.

I'll give Fed detractors Baghdatis though:)
 
He did lets be real. Zverev softened Nole up nicely for him. TsiTsi going out pretty much got Med the title. It went from Muggish to down right country club muggish from there. Med will be lucky to see a creampuff draw like that again
 

James P

G.O.A.T.
I agree, and yet he went through Novak which immediately raises the quality of his draw above that of the "easiest draws of all times" rhetoric. He beat the GOAT. Not bad!
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Sometimes that happens, but players earn those chances by getting high rankings and playing consistently at a high level.

All of the Big 3 won their first slam playing a first-time (and never to repeat) slam finalist. That's arguably even luckier than having to beat a GOAT candidate in the final like Med did.
Fed didn't play a first time finalist.
 
Who cares. Nadal did thrice at the U.S Open basically and nobody begrudges him any of his wins (except a few super bitter fanboys of other players). He was the best player of the tournament. I fully expected Djokovic to beat him even after his easy run to the final, and the idea Djokovic was so "tired" from a mere 1 5 setter, and a day off between semis and final, when he is one of the fittest players of the 21st century, is laughable.
 

Tennisgods

Hall of Fame
I don't get all the whining about draws. Sometimes they are favorable, sometimes they are not. And sometimes a bad draw can turn into a good one when seeds start losing. And it rarely happens that two players will have the exact same level of fatigue in the final. It's sports, them's the breaks.
Happens in every slam. Makes you wonder whether people on here actually watch.
 

Defcon

Hall of Fame
What a joke of thread. Rafa, Djok, Serena have had tons of cakewalk draws, does anybody talk them not winning those slams?
 

Defcon

Hall of Fame
People still give Rafa's Creampuff USO draws flak yea.
did they take the trophy away from him?

I honestly don't understand how some people are so biased/hateful they think the loser 'deserved' it more. e.g. plenty of people say Fernandez had a tougher draw and Emma never faced a top player. Did they even watch? she was the far better player.

In fact these people cannot understand basic logic. Lets say Medvedev only had to beat challengers on his way to the final. What does it say about your #1 Djoker if he can't beat him? it means he's not good enough, period.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
A younger version of Djokovic would have made shorter work of his tough draw, but he is not what he was. He'll need a few cakewalks to get to 21 and beyond.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
This is what the cakewalk originally looked like, apparently, so another blessing from black American culture:

 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
It depends on the draw and how rested the two players are. They are now more even than ever, so every advantage counts. And the draw will now be telling.

Medvedev has a 4-1 record against Z since 2019.

This entire Narrative that Z would have beaten Medvedev is based on wishful thinking with no idea of the match up.

If Djokovic couldn't cope with Medvedev serves and his groundstrokes how will Zverev do that?
 

Bambooman

Rookie
Is Medvedev even still alive? That look his wife gave when he admitted not yet getting her an anniversary gift and instead trying to impress her with a mere 2.5 million cheque has me wondering.
 

MeatTornado

G.O.A.T.
Love making fun of his cakewalk draw as if he didn't demolish Rublev and Tsitsipas in straight sets the last time he played them at a major.

I don't think anything would've changed if the seeds held in his half.
 
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