Medvedev is already a much better net player than either Novak and Rafa

terribleIVAN

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Hugely impressed by his new found net play and volleys which he used to steal that third set break.
I believe he's the only next gen player able to charge the net aggressively and put his opponent under pressure.

If he can keep his fitness and avoid injuries, he's going to bulldoze a lot of people.
He's closed the gap on his weaknesses.
 
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terribleIVAN said:
Hugely impressed by his new found net play and volleys which he used to steal that third set break.
I believe he's the only next gen player able to charge the net aggressively and put his opponent under pressure.

If he can keep his fitness and avoid injuries, he's going to bulldoze a lot of people.
He's closed the gap on his weaknesses.
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Weren´t you the one who were telling @aditya123 that he/she was trolling?
 
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I'm a Medvedev fan but this is the biggest exaggeration I've heard about him. Can we please all calm down, his volleys are far from consistent this final is a great example of that, he made a lot of mistakes and hit a lot of bad approach shots. that left him vulnerable and open. I think he's good maybe a little better than Djokovic (at times) but in no way better than Nadal. He definitely can and will get better if he continues to work on it and improve his offence.
 
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No he isn't. The day before yesterday, Thiem was the best player in the world.LOL!

Now we are hyping Medvedev!?!

Let's face it, the WTF has become a meaningless way to gauge greatness in a player. This is the 4th year in a row the winner of the WTF has not been a slam winner. Each time these guys win WTF, everyone acts likes they have arrived and are ready to win slams. But none of them produce. Not Dimitrov, not Zverev and not Tsitsipas.

I don't expect much different from Medvedev either. For me, Thiem is a better player than him and remains the biggest threat to Djokodal in slams, regardless of his loss to Medvedev today in this tournament.
 
terribleIVAN

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TennisIcon said:
I think he's good maybe a little better than Djokovic (at times) but in no way better than Nadal.
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???

Where have you been these last 10 years ?
Nadal gets a brain fart as soon as he gets 5 feet within the net. He has good touch on volleys, granted, but only when anticipating the return: he feels otherwise totally out of water at the net.

Medvedev can create points there and charges the net with confidence, putting his opponent under pressure to pass him. This is very rare today.
 
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terribleIVAN said:
???

Where have you been these last 10 years ?
Nadal gets a brain fart as soon as he gets 5 feet within the net. He has good touch on volleys, granted, but only when anticipating the return: he feels otherwise totally out of water at the net.

Medvedev can create points there and charges the net with confidence, putting his opponent under pressure to pass him. This is very rare today.
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Charges the net with confidence?! In what world. Most of the time Medvedev comes to the net only when he's forced in. There have been multiple times where he has come in and has literally retreated because he's so uncomfortable. I am saying this as a Medvedev fan, Nadal is 100% much better at the net. Sure he makes some mistakes as anyone does but the facts speak for themselves, when he comes into the net more often than not he will win that point.
 
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Nadal has a HUGELY underrated net game. I was blown away watching him this week. It's a shame he hasn't used his touch at net more in his career.

Having said that Med has nice touch. If he gets better at SV or approach and volley he will be almost impossible to beat.
 
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He won a match today, so it's hard to argue against him being the best in the world right now.
 
terribleIVAN

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Charges the net with confidence?! In what world. Most of the time Medvedev comes to the net only when he's forced in.
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He gets the break in the middle of the third set by charging the net after his deep BH return, takes time away from Thiem and steals the point with a quick volley.

Neither Rafa or Novak have ever relied on this strategy.
 
Backspin1183

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His net game right now is on par with Pete Sampras in his prime. At this rate he's gonna be the greatest volleyer of all time if he keeps improving his net game.
 
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Backspin1183 said:
His net game right now is on par with Pete Sampras in his prime. At this rate he's gonna be the greatest volleyer of all time if he keeps improving his net game.
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If he's better than Djokovid, he already is the greatest volleyer of all time. Isn't he?
 
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Even Federer uses the volley sparingly, and the put away volley of a floating return isn't volleying.
 
terribleIVAN

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zipplock said:
Nadal has a HUGELY underrated net game. I was blown away watching him this week. It's a shame he hasn't used his touch at net more in his career.
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Rafa doesn't know how to construct at the net: if he doesn't win the point with his first volley, forget it.

He also doesn't know what to do with mid court balls: the number of brain farts in this position is astonishing for a player of his caliber.
 
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terribleIVAN said:
Rafa doesn't know how to construct at the net: if he doesn't win the point with his first volley, forget it.

He also doesn't know what to do with mid court balls: the number of brain farts in this position is astonishing for a player of his caliber.
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Maybe, but his put away volley was very good, excellent angles and touch.
 
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