Alcohol is often a truth serum, people say what they really think but would normally never say when sober.Don't people say and do stupid things when they are drunk?
that is why onli true christians will go to heaven(according to their belief)FalconX said:not surprising. Many christians are racist.
Why doesn't he just come forward and say "I hate Jews"? Because he works in an industry that puts a premium on public "Image", and the image of an overtly bigoted, anti-Semitic actor wouldn't sit very well with the public and the media (which in turn, would cause any funding for his movies to dry up-it makes him a "bad risk" for the studios and investors).B. Pancake said:He likes to say its the "alcohol" in his head that's saying the ugly things, when we all know that its the bigot in his head that's doing the talking. Why doesn't he just come forward and say, "I hate jews." I would actually respect him more if he didn't run from his own truth
Man, I hope you're the one who stands in judgement of me on the last day. Peace out man!Morpheus said:A wise Christian once posted (in the God thread):
Christians fall down -sin- everyday. At least I do. I pray and ask for forgiveness everyday. My sinning has dropped big time, but hasn’t stopped. It’s the running into sin with no regards for Him that isn’t good.
Mel is just a good example of a God fearing man who fell down. Now he has to dust himself off and get on with things.
Making anti-Semitic (and don't forget the offensive sexist remark to the female officer) remarks to strangers, and more importantly, COPS is not anyone's idea of a "joke". This isn't like "...things you say to your friends". Believe me, spanky, he wasn't "joking".emcee said:Also, how do you know he wasn't joking or anything? I don't know all the circumstances involved here, but lots of things I say to my friends probably could be taken out of context and make me seem like a real bad guy but I don't mean a lot of what I say. Some people think alcohol is a truth serum while others think it's just a very unreliable serum.
And keep in mind that Martin Luther himself was anti-Semitic. Christians do bad things sometimes just as athiests, agnostics, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, etc. do. Religious people just tend to get more flak for it...
Somehow I don't think Mel Gibson really thinks all wars in this world are because of Israel.
ya I don't know that much about him besides he's a great actor but in general you can't put it above people to judge from a few people they've met. I guess since hes highly religious like u said it wouldn't be the case oh well its being way overblown all over cnn etc like its going to change the world if he hates jews or not.scez said:Usually when an extremely religious man says something racist, I doubt it is because they met a couple of people that they didnt like.
No. Falconx is an Iranian Muslim bent on denouncing virtually anything American while he lives in this country and enjoys all its rights and priveliges.ThePlungerMan said:Are you one of those Christians?
I'd forgotten about that. It is hard to excape the influence of our parents. Mel apparently is truly his father's son.35ft6 said:It's worse for Mel Gibson because of his father -- who's somewhat of a holocaust denier and thinks that Jews have a diabolical plan to take over the world -- and Passion of the Christ, which a lot of Jews resented for the way it portrayed "their" role in the crucifixion of Christ. Mel's dad rejects Vatican 2, feels that every pope since then is illegitimate, and the heretical ideas introduced into Catholicism during that event was orchestrated by Jews. Mel's dad is an anti-semite in the strictest sense of the term. And Mel hasn't done much to denounce him...
He was probably looking at him funny.norcal said:I was wondering how Mel knew the officer was a Jew. After his tirade against Jews he said to officer Mee, "Are you a Jew?" It's not like his name was Abraham Rabinawitz, his name is John Mee. How did Mel know? Does he have Jewdar?
I would have tasered his ass. And posted the video on Youtube.
Joking? What sick individual gets wasted, gets IN A CAR, puts his life and the life of others in danger, and then jokes about how much he hates jews and how they are the cause of evil in the world? This may seem stupid, but Hitler said the same kind of stuff in the 1930's. To make excuses for him is insane. He messed up, big time, and he deserves what he gets. Crazy thing is, people aren't that uspet about the drunk driving...that's just as bad as anything esle. What if he had hit and killed someone? Would he blame that on jews as well? Gimme a break.emcee said:Also, how do you know he wasn't joking or anything?
I just wish you'd put "Christians" in quotes ... or used the phrase "so-called Christians."35ft6 said:I always find it funny when Christians are anti-semites. Funny because they worship a Jew, but hate Jews. Interesting.
Okay, I'll post again, since my previous response to this was censored/deleted.35ft6 said:It's worse for Mel Gibson because of his father -- who's somewhat of a holocaust denier and thinks that Jews have a diabolical plan to take over the world -- and Passion of the Christ, which a lot of Jews resented for the way it portrayed "their" role in the crucifixion of Christ. Mel's dad rejects Vatican 2, feels that every pope since then is illegitimate, and the heretical ideas introduced into Catholicism during that event was orchestrated by Jews. Mel's dad is an anti-semite in the strictest sense of the term. And Mel hasn't done much to denounce him, even having said at one time that his dad has never lied to him. So even though any a-list actor would probably get creamed if they had done a similar thing, Mel was already skating on very thin ice. I think if it was a big actor with no anti-semitic past, or perceived A-S past, Jewish leaders would welcome an apology and request for a meet, and they could probably get a lot of PR mileage out of this hypothetical person in way of preaching tolerance.
Many Jews were very very upset by Passion of the Christ. The only time my Jewish ex-roommate and I ever had a truly tense argument was over Passion of the Christ, which I defended only to the extent that I felt a person should be allowed to make that movie... which was terrible by the way. And we'd been friends for 6 years. Only time. I don't know if I've ever seen him so upset as he was when talking about that movie.
Okay, so one can argue that Mel Gibson should be allowed to bigot and that's true, so long as his bigotry doesn't hurt anybody. And Jews should be allowed to hate Mel Gibson for it and to boycott a bigot if they want.